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Old 09-06-2010, 01:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What motor mounts can I use?

Hey everybody, I am about to do a 460 engine swap into my 79 f250, but I have been told that I will need a different set of motor mounts. I do agree with them but I can't find any good info in any forums or swap threads to locate a usable pair of mounts. So my question is where can I find 460 motor mounts that will fit in a 79 f250? Thanks guys for any help, my 400 is on its way out and for $400 I picked up a 460 from my dad and Id like to get the swap done soon. Thanks again

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Old 09-06-2010, 03:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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79 f250 mounts

Heres all the mounts I have found that you can buy for 79 250 4x4 engine swap.

L&L products part#030495 cost 125.00 set their phone number is 972-475-5202

Auto fab part# FTX460A cost 330.00 set their phone number is 619-562-1740

West coast Bronco part# 20710 cost 139.95 set their phone number is 760-364-3808

performance unlimited. Didnt have a part# on them. cost 99.90 set their phone number is 262-673-4077

Have seen 390 mounts used by notching the rubber down in the top hole and redrill hole farther down. Get a plate of steel drill the 460 engine mount bolt pattern and take the 351 or 400 mount and drill that pattern on the plate I done this myself. I seen a guy running 1980-97 truck style mounts in a 79 f250 too but they have a double stud have to make a second hole in your frame perches.
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thank you very much, ill look into these as soon as time permits, instead of googling the engine swap itself, i should have just googled the part...
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Hey I was wondering if the frame perches on a 2wd 77 f250 that has a 460 can be removed(bolts?)? and attached to the 4wd 79 f250 frame. Or are the 2wd frames a different width? Every time I google 77 f350 frame, it gives me 77 corvette.....so searching isnt helping me very much
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No they are different.
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Hey everybody, I am about to do a 460 engine swap into my 79 f250, but I have been told that I will need a different set of motor mounts. I do agree with them but I can't find any good info in any forums or swap threads to locate a usable pair of mounts. So my question is where can I find 460 motor mounts that will fit in a 79 f250? Thanks guys for any help, my 400 is on its way out and for $400 I picked up a 460 from my dad and Id like to get the swap done soon. Thanks again

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as soon as i get back to my shop, i can give you the Napa part # i used on the 79 Tow Truck, I did have to trim the top of the motor mount to clear the exhaust manifolds, but i also whent from a 400 to a 460, and know im in the middle of swapping in a EFI 460, and i got lucky, the motor mounts off the old 460 bolted to the EFI 460
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Hey everybody, I am about to do a 460 engine swap into my 79 f250, but I have been told that I will need a different set of motor mounts. I do agree with them but I can't find any good info in any forums or swap threads to locate a usable pair of mounts. So my question is where can I find 460 motor mounts that will fit in a 79 f250? Thanks guys for any help, my 400 is on its way out and for $400 I picked up a 460 from my dad and Id like to get the swap done soon. Thanks again

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The Napa part #'s are 602-1168 & 602-1169, they bolted up to the 460 with slight mods!!!!! I'm not sure, but i think these are the origanl motor mounts for the 400, just moded to fit the 460!! The exhaust manifolds hang a little low, so the motor mounts need to be trimmed on the upper left hand corner!!!
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yeah i have a 460 swap on a 73, just dont have time to put together, i purchased my frame and motor mounts from l and l, i wish i had the time, may just start selling the parts
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Bronco graveyard has some very nice heavy duty motor mounts. I would stay away from the L&L mounts, I have broken two sets.
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Bronco graveyard has some very nice heavy duty motor mounts. I would stay away from the L&L mounts, I have broken two sets.
So have you pulled the stud out of the rubber, or broken the metal??? Just curios
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The rubber pulled apart on the first set. I cant really blame the mounts for the second set as they broke when I rolled the truck they were in, the steel plate was bent as well as the rubber being pulled apart from the plate.
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The bronco graveyard ones use a bolt through a poly bushing and look to be very high quality.http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/i-...or-mounts.html
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The bronco graveyard ones use a bolt through a poly bushing and look to be very high quality.http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/i-...or-mounts.html
They do look sweet If i have to ever change my motor mounts again, I will defiantley pick up a set from the broncograveyard boys!!! I like the design of the bolt going through the side to hold the 2 pieces together!!!! back into the shop to finish up re-drilling the frame for the rear crossmember!!!
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hey thanks brettf350 for the info, and also allgo and dependable tow, the info is very helpful. I got to talking with my uncle about the whole idea and he told me that he had the same plan to do a 460 swap into his 76 highboy and that some time ago he made a template for engine towers to attach to the frame using 1/4 inch plate, and i need to either buy some metal for him to make us both sets or pay him to make me a set. And i had a chance to buy a 95?? f250 with an efi 460, it was in great shape but the original tranny had a crack in the housing, guy wanted $1200 for the whole truck or nothing at all. said he'd rather push it off a cliff rather than sell it for less, but for being a dishwasher at a small restraunt I couldnt afford that even if i saved all my money after paying bills for a year
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What did the 460 come out of? You will need a rear sump oil pan if it's from a car or 2wd truck, exhaust manifolds always seem to dump in the wrong spot also, right on top of the pass frame, headers may be needed if you can't locate a manifold that will work(good luck). Man or auto trans? Man trans flywheel can be tough to find for the 78 and older internal balance motors.
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well its in a 77 2wd f350, I already know that im probably screwed on the exhaust manifold part, my dad had alot of trouble finding the exhaust seals for it. The only thing i know prior to my dad owning it is that it had belonged to a conctruction company and they were starting to install the 460 untill some idiot with an excavator dropped a water heater on the cab and squished it.
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and tranny is not an issue, i have a bigblock bellhousing c6 so i ought to be good from this point
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hey thanks brettf350 for the info, and also allgo and dependable tow, the info is very helpful. I got to talking with my uncle about the whole idea and he told me that he had the same plan to do a 460 swap into his 76 highboy and that some time ago he made a template for engine towers to attach to the frame using 1/4 inch plate, and i need to either buy some metal for him to make us both sets or pay him to make me a set. And i had a chance to buy a 95?? f250 with an efi 460, it was in great shape but the original tranny had a crack in the housing, guy wanted $1200 for the whole truck or nothing at all. said he'd rather push it off a cliff rather than sell it for less, but for being a dishwasher at a small restraunt I couldnt afford that even if i saved all my money after paying bills for a year
You shouldnt need to refab the motor mount towers, the towers in the 79 are the orignal that had the 400 bolted to them!!!! Also the exhaust manifolds are hard to come buy, but i just happen to have a set im not using since im dropping in the EFI motor!!!
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My current motor is the stock 400, so dependable tow, your saying that the only thing i need to drop the motor in is mounts? and then it will bolt right in? that would make my day
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What did the 460 come out of? You will need a rear sump oil pan if it's from a car or 2wd truck, exhaust manifolds always seem to dump in the wrong spot also, right on top of the pass frame, headers may be needed if you can't locate a manifold that will work(good luck). Man or auto trans? Man trans flywheel can be tough to find for the 78 and older internal balance motors.
You can use a 360 or 390 FE flywheel/flexplate on an internally balanced 429/460. They will bolt on and have nuetral balance. Havok. If you buy a set of motor mounts for the 460 like the ones on bronco graveyard the 460 will bolt right in...
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hey thanks everybody, I was wondering about the frame towers but since I only need the actual mounts and that the towers in my truck are usable alls I can really say is thanks alot

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The mounts that bronco graveyard has looks exactly like the ones at west coast bronco and I mean to the t. Their website is www.wcb4x4.com go compare the photos of the mounts. They cost $20 less than bronco grave yard too. Far as headers several companys make fenderwell exit headers for 460. L&L, Hedman husslers, mad dog, Fab shop all make fenderwell headers. If you use manifolds the passenger side has to be out of a truck. The car manifold wont let the exhaust pipe bolt up because of the frame rail or atleast I have never seen a car one that would. Got a set of manifolds out of a mid 80s 4x4 truck that I may sell I had these manifolds in a 79 250 4x4 truck so they clear the frame rail and also got a set of l&l mounts I will sell. You will need the rear sump oil pan with the matching oil pick up tube and it takes a different oil pump and you need the main bolt that has the threaded stud made to the head of the bolt that holds the pick up tube. And you will need the dipstick and tube for that pan. Some rear sump pans had a push in dipstick tube and some had a threaded dipstick tube.

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as far as it goes for exhaust manifolds, I dont know of anyone around with the proper set, and for oil pan/ pump, Im aware of a few people with a bunch of 460's. I myself have a bad 460 laying around, but it was from a van though, so it might not work??
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