NEW BW-1356 doubler kits $449

[d.d.machine]

For the first 30 we are offering $50 off. when this run is gone the price will be back to $499

[d.d.machine]

There 8 7/8" long and come with a "NEW" 31 spline cromo shaft.
Thanks
Duffy
D.D.Machine
(360)649-4465

[78-79FordMan]

u just get whats in the pics right . not the gear box to right. we as customer have to cut the case and all that right. its just a do it ya self kit.

[d.d.machine]

yes you will need to cut down the case and fit the block off plate and bolt the box together, it takes about a hour and a half to do all the work but about half that time is just cleaning up the old parts.

Thanks
Duffy

[78-79FordMan]

shipping to 71841 please.

[d.d.machine]

its a set $20 shipping anyplace in USA.
Thanks
Duffy
D.D.Machine
(360)649-4465

[Pt_Ranger_V8]

I'm ASSuming that you include instructions?


I like this price though...

[78-79FordMan]

Originally Posted by Pt_Ranger_V8

I'm ASSuming that you include instructions?


I like this price though...

i hope .
and i believe i am going to try one out . how is the shifter going to work . is it going to clear the 205 stuff. my try your competitor out to as i only have 1 case i can use on a do it your self kit.

[DB_1]

Still doing the 1354 kits?

[d.d.machine]

Instuctions?
what for its dead simple.
unbolt the case down the middle, lay the big plate on the front half of the case, draw a line with a scribe, cut the case off, grind the block off plate to fit, mix up some JB weld, bolt it together so the sealing area lines up and let it sit over night, bolt the clocking plate to the T case , bolt the clocking plate to the big plate with locktight, put in the shifter shaft and cut the top off the shifter fork so it below the top of the case (about 1/2" need to be cut off ). put in the shift fork and the shift rod and bolt the big plate to the front case and put the bolt in the end of the shift shaft,

the only mods one need to do to make the crawl box is cut the case, grind down the block off plate and take the top off the shifter fork.
Its just that SIMPLE

O ya put the "NEW" cromo shaft in


Ye I have a good stock of the 1350/54 doublers

Thanks
Duffy
D.D.Machine
(360)649-4465

[Idaho4x4Bronco]

Finally!!!! Thanks!

[Danger Ranger]

Duffy will this work with a 205? It doesn't look like there is enough room to clear the shift rails...?

[Pt_Ranger_V8]

I like it

[guidolyons]

Cool Glad to see you're still around Duffy

[d.d.machine]

the kit was made to run 1356 to 1356, but one can run a 205 by moving the shift rail so it runs out the back side of the case, I`m working on some adapters this weekend to run a 205 behind the 231 and 241 cases and the same parts will work with the 1356 kit. i should have new longer shafts made so a 205 will be a simple bolt up with no mods around the middle of next month, it will only take me a week or so to turn and spline then a week or so at the heat treaters.

[Danger Ranger]

Originally Posted by d.d.machine

the kit was made to run 1356 to 1356, but one can run a 205 by moving the shift rail so it runs out the back side of the case, I`m working on some adapters this weekend to run a 205 behind the 231 and 241 cases and the same parts will work with the 1356 kit. i should have new longer shafts made so a 205 will be a simple bolt up with no mods around the middle of next month, it will only take me a week or so to turn and spline then a week or so at the heat treaters.

Just honest opinion here... I think that is a mistake. Most aren't going to want to deal with relocating the shift rail out the back, I know I don't. The 231 & 241 cases don't do anything for Ford guys like me with a c6 and a 205, Fords biggest and best. Kit looks nice though.

[d.d.machine]

It is not a mistake at all
I asked around and there seemed to be more guys wanting a 1356 to 1356 kit than wanted a 1356 to 205 kit. so I made the 1356 to 1356 first.

Know I`m finishing off the parts to do a bolt together kit for the 1356 to 205 setup

[Andy351]

sick! waiting to see how the 205 kit turns out before i make a move... poor mans 4 speed atlas, only better!

[78-79FordMan]

let use know when ya get one where the 205 will work . because thats what i need to. not the 1356 to 1356. i didn't think this one work work well with the 205. .

[hawkins1]

Just my opinion, but 5 Franklins seems like alot of money to shell out for a kit, and then "J.B." weld things together. Why not machine the parts and do it right?

[78-79FordMan]

Originally Posted by hawkins1

Just my opinion, but 5 Franklins seems like alot of money to shell out for a kit, and then "J.B." weld things together. Why not machine the parts and do it right?

ya thats a part i don't like to jb welding . i was think the little piece needs to be aluminum so it could be welded thats what i will do if i go with one of these. the heck with jb welding

[Danger Ranger]

Originally Posted by d.d.machine

It is not a mistake at all
I asked around and there seemed to be more guys wanting a 1356 to 1356 kit than wanted a 1356 to 205 kit. so I made the 1356 to 1356 first.

Know I`m finishing off the parts to do a bolt together kit for the 1356 to 205 setup

Where did you ask? Guess I missed it if you asked around here. The 1356/205 is such an obvious doubler to make, I can't believe it's taken this long for someone to make it. 4sp Atlas capability & reliability for a fraction of the price! Most Rock Crawlers are cheap asses... making products that help us continue the tradition should be successfull

[78-79FordMan]

Originally Posted by Danger Ranger

Where did you ask? Guess I missed it if you asked around here. The 1356/205 is such an obvious doubler to make, I can't believe it's taken this long for someone to make it. 4sp Atlas capability & reliability for a fraction of the price! Most Rock Crawlers are cheap asses... making products that help us continue the tradition should be successfull

x2 agreed. cheaper and sell more thats the way to make lots of money. then sell one and make lots of money. because i need 3 doublers. and cheaper the better.

[d.d.machine]

FYI, the only thing the jb weld does is seal up the block off plate, you could run RTV there and it would work just fine, as for welding it that would be great, thats how the other kits I make get there block off plates mounted up.
But the BW-1356 is magnesium ( spelling?) and yes the block off plate is made from 6061 alum so here is the thing, I have tig welded a "LOT" of mag thrue the years and weld alum all the time, but I have found no info or rod to weld the two together. so my feeling is after years of making doublers for the 231,241,1350 cases and talking with 100`s of customers that have jb welded thoes kits and I have "NEVER" had one guy call and say they should have welded it like I told them, it just might not be a big deal.

Danger ranger
Yes I do see that there is a market out there for BW-1356 to ford 205 cases
its hard to say whats the biggest market in that we all have are own ideas on what "we" want. Hell my biggest seller is the NP-231 23 spline kits and In my book one of the best setups for heeps is 231 to D300. even if you have to flip the D300, but still half the guys will spend $300 for a SYE kit for a 231 chain drive case over just buying a D300 and flipping it.

I think it all boils down to $$ ... if you want to spend a lot go buy a stak 3 speed box ,, there what about $3,500 ?

Or you can get a klun v or black box for around $2,000 there both good products

or one can spend $449 and get just as stong of a setup but have to put at most two hours into building it with simple hand tools.

Hell I have played with a stak case and I must say it rocks, but I well say that it will be a cold day in hell when I can blow $3,500 for a gear box for my
junk.

It all goes back to what we can spend.


Yes I could make even a cheaper kit and have my plates burned out and respline the crap steel shaft, but I would not want to put my name on it

[Jrod-13]

Originally Posted by Danger Ranger

Where did you ask? Guess I missed it if you asked around here. The 1356/205 is such an obvious doubler to make, I can't believe it's taken this long for someone to make it. 4sp Atlas capability & reliability for a fraction of the price! Most Rock Crawlers are cheap asses... making products that help us continue the tradition should be successfull

my thinking exactly, i cant think of anyone ever even mentioning one...

the one I built you can still shift it out the front,(but i have enough wheelbase where the length doesn't matter..) My buddy built one identical to what your selling, and i remember him having a tough time setting up the 205 to shift out the back....


But yeah, the 13-56/205 is such a simple, strong cheap setup.. Its great to see someone finally them..