dually sterlings are like sasquatch?

[plug ugly]

lots of people mention them, but its hard to find any hard data on width, My SRW sterling, out of a 90 f250 is like 65" wide. Id like to find a sterling dually since its supposed to be wider, but does anyone KNOW what the width is on a sterling dually?

[fatdan460]

so far the only number i'm seeing pop up online is 72.5'' for a dually sterling. i'm bored, so i'll keep looking for you.

[Ibuildembig]

I can find out, my buddy has one

[fatdan460]

Originally Posted by Ibuildembig

I can find out, my buddy has one

good, cause he's right, i'm not finding shit online other than the one post on a forum claiming 72.5''

[jam0o0]

shoot i could have measured the 2 i found last weekend. i'll remember to put that on the list for my next junkyard run.

[4x4junkie]

I don't think there is such an animal, is there? I thought the dually trucks got Dana axles (70s or 80s).

[plug ugly]

thats all I found at the local yard. older than say mid 80 had what looked like 70s

[82F100SWB]

Pickup duallys are relatively rare 85-97, 4x4 ones before about 96 weren't even factory built, they were aftermarket outfitted SRW trucks.
No Dana axles in 87-97 trucks other than F450/Superdutys with the 10 lug 80.
Pickup dually 10.25's are out therem they just aren't common.
C&C dually axles are pretty much SRW axles with different brakes, spring perches and shock mounts.

Everything I have found points to the DRW axle being 5.75 or 6" wider than a SRE one.

[1sicbronconut]

The only dually steerlings I've ever seen were in odd ball goverment trucks that had 5.4L engines in them, these are 1999 and up trucks.

[Dr.Danger]

With chebbys, you can learn everything there is to know in about a week. With Fords, as much as you think you know about them, you learn something new and different every day it seems.

[redpitbull44]

Originally Posted by 82F100SWB

Pickup duallys are relatively rare 85-97, 4x4 ones before about 96 weren't even factory built, they were aftermarket outfitted SRW trucks.
No Dana axles in 87-97 trucks other than F450/Superdutys with the 10 lug 60.
Pickup dually 10.25's are out therem they just aren't common.
C&C dually axles are pretty much SRW axles with different brakes, spring perches and shock mounts.

Everything I have found points to the DRW axle being 5.75 or 6" wider than a SRE one.

Are you saying you have seen a factory, 1997 or older F-450 or bigger that was 4x4? I haven't run across one. They F-450 and F-550 and F-SuperDuty had a Dana 135 rear axle as well. Also, I had a 1990 single rear wheel F-Superduty 4x4 4 door, long bed w/ 351 & ZF that had to have been custom built.

[jasonmt]

Originally Posted by redpitbull44

Are you saying you have seen a factory, 1997 or older F-450 or bigger that was 4x4? I haven't run across one. They F-450 and F-550 and F-SuperDuty had a Dana 135 rear axle as well. Also, I had a 1990 single rear wheel F-Superduty 4x4 4 door, long bed w/ 351 & ZF that had to have been custom built.

89-97 F-450's started out with D70HD's for a very limited time and then went to a D80 for the rest of their production.

99-04 F-450's still used a D80 rear, 99-04 F-550's used a Dana S135 rear.

05+ F-450's use a Dana S110 with the 2011 F-450 PU's using a D80 again as well.

05+ F-550's use a Dana S110 with a higher weight capacity than the 450's and later (~08+) F-550's could also be had with a Dana S130 with the max tow and/or max payload package.

[chrisevans2645]

the cab and chassis trucks used narrower dually axles i believe, however for standard dually pickups the left shaft is 41 1/8" and the right is 38 1/2". i haven't measured mine overall.
here's some good info, it doesn't say what is what but i had to figure out the shaft lengths when i snapped one
http://www.sixstates.com/products/ca...=AXLELD&page=5

[ONLYFORD]

I measured one on sunday, I was by my self but it was 72.5 plus or minus 1/2'. It was a 91 f-350 chasi cab 2wd 10.25 Sterling. My 90 f-350 4x4 rear is 3's total narrower than the front so I'm looking for wider.

[82F100SWB]

I mentioned nothing about a F450/SuperDuty(there was no 550 at this point in time, thats 99+) of that era being 4x4, only that the 10 lug trucks had D80 rears, and were the only F-truck of that era to have a Dana rear.
A 1990 FSuperduty Crew SRW 4x4 with a W is a hard pill to swallow. Soley due to their GVWR they were all duallys. From the factory they were 2wd, reg cab, DRW cab and chassis, 460 and diesel only. I have Ford brochures and other refrence material to back that up.
A F350 crew srw 4x4 with a W and ZF would have been custom order, and is very believeable though. Either it was badge engineering or something customized well after it left the factory.

[Ibuildembig]

I just textd my buddy but he didnt drive his in today. Its an 87 dually that he made 4x4. It had a 3.55 dually sterling in it, but he swapped it out for a 94 model 4L10 sterling. I will get pics and measurments next time I see him.

[f250rollinon37s]

i have a 97 crew cab 4x4 drw. the rear axle is a 10.25 and is around 72". i have yet to get an exact number. but it is wider than my 95 f250 by a lot. i have measured a cab and chassie axle that was at the jy. it was the same as a non drw. 65 or 67

my truck from what i can tell is factory. it is a drw on the vin and had a bed at one time, flatbed now . from what i have read the dealer must have installed it.

ill get pics if you fuckers want them

[dahoyle]

Originally Posted by 82F100SWB

I mentioned nothing about a F450/SuperDuty(there was no 550 at this point in time, thats 99+) of that era being 4x4, only that the 10 lug trucks had D80 rears, and were the only F-truck of that era to have a Dana rear.
A 1990 FSuperduty Crew SRW 4x4 with a W is a hard pill to swallow. Soley due to their GVWR they were all duallys. From the factory they were 2wd, reg cab, DRW cab and chassis, 460 and diesel only. I have Ford brochures and other refrence material to back that up.
A F350 crew srw 4x4 with a W and ZF would have been custom order, and is very believeable though. Either it was badge engineering or something customized well after it left the factory.

Actually, you made mention of a 10 lug d60, which was probably a mis-type, but it would lead one to believe you were discussing a front axle, because nobody would believe you were talking about a 10 lug D60 in the rear of an F450........

Originally Posted by 82F100SWB

No Dana axles in 87-97 trucks other than F450/Superdutys with the 10 lug 60.

[82F100SWB]

Whoops... Need more sleep I guess... LOL

[JGVABronco78]

What exact measurements are needed. I have a 1991 C/C dually in the shop right now. I already have a bunch of measurements wrote down because I was looking at using this axle and/or hoping the axle shafts would fit into a 35-splinr rear 60 but I think they ended up being pretty far off. I don't have axles/hubs on so WMS to WMS will have to be a guesstament, but I could give you just about any other point of reference. I can confirm they have huge brakes, and mine came with new drums and shoes. I'll bet that was a chunk of change there.

[JGVABronco78]

Found it! Apparently I did get wms before tearing apart.
1991 cab and chassis
wms to wms = 68"
spring perch c/c = 40-1/2"
axle length = 37-3/8" (mounting face to end of spline)
spline length = 2"

[f250rollinon37s]

im sure mine is wider than 68 - off to find a tape.............

[78-79FordMan]

Originally Posted by plug ugly

lots of people mention them, but its hard to find any hard data on width, My SRW sterling, out of a 90 f250 is like 65" wide. Id like to find a sterling dually since its supposed to be wider, but does anyone KNOW what the width is on a sterling dually?

just so ya know a 90 f250 and a 90 f350 cab and chassis dually have the same rear end. 90 f350 dually that had the bed with fenders have a wider rear end. 72'' or so a 1/2''. and there all sterling rear ends. i have or have had them all three at the same time and measured them

can't remember when the sterling started 85 or 87 or when in the 80's but all three models i posted would have had the same thing i posted in the 90 model up to a '95-96ish i know. from there up don't know but would bet the samething.

there are 2 Sterling rear ends as far as the width they are
f250 -f350 srw and cab and chassis = the same narrow rear
and dually that has bed with fenders. = the wide rear

the wide rears are 4'' wider they have to be cause the inter tires would hit the bed.
the part of the dually in this pic ya see has the wide rear end in it. and its a '93 f350

[78-79FordMan]

and then theres a wide dana 70 because i have one. thats the same width as the wide sterling. thats going under a '79 ford truck to make a dually truck with a bed and fenders. with out spacers or custom wheels. hence the 4''s wider.

[JGVABronco78]

Originally Posted by f250rollinon37s

im sure mine is wider than 68 - off to find a tape.............

By c/c I meant cab and chassis. If you are thinking crew cab pick-up dually then it may well be wider.