Big tires, no lift, let's see em!!

[88-4x4yota]

Ok so I got a prettly much stock 79 3/4 ton 4x4 with a 60 rear and a 44 front and 400 with the c6 and I have a set of like new 42in TSL's that I wanna throw on there. I know it'll take a LOT of trimming or possibly just remove the bed and front clip. So I'd like to see some pics of how big of tires y'all got on your trucks that are the same body style as mine with no lift or even with minimal lift. Thanks!

[fatdan460]

what do you plan to use it for out of curiosity?

I had a buddy a while back that had two big tire low trucks, sorry no pics, but 94 f250 with a 3'' body lift and 40'' tsl's no trimming except the bumper. worked for mud but not much else, and a 78 bronco with chopped wells and 38'' cheapo mudders that was ok for some trail shit.
here's my buddy paul's 1 ton bronco with a 4'' lift and 40'' boggers. it's pretty flexy, said it gets the tires into the body mounts when really twisted up being so low.

[Dr.Danger]

Your axles are not going to hold up long with 42's. The dana 44 should have 35s on it max if you want it to live.

[88-4x4yota]

Ok so I'll have to run a little bit of lift and ya I figured the 44 won't hold up to it for long but shouldn't the 60 be ok? And I can cut as much shit off that thing as I need to, I don't care, I just want something better than the 32s that are on it now and I'll mainly be in mud and occasional mountain trails and snow.

[cslimfu]

42's 4" lift on a 78.

[Dr.Danger]

Originally Posted by 88-4x4yota

Ok so I'll have to run a little bit of lift and ya I figured the 44 won't hold up to it for long but shouldn't the 60 be ok? And I can cut as much shit off that thing as I need to, I don't care, I just want something better than the 32s that are on it now and I'll mainly be in mud and occasional mountain trails and snow.

The 60 will probably be fine, and if you blow it up just go find a $100 dollar junkyard sterling 10.25 and bolt it in.

[cslimfu]

I broke shafts frequently in my 60 rear with a lsd. Buddy had a detroit and broke them constantly. Granted these were stock shafts but, still. Keep youre eyes open for a 10.25 cheap. Should be able to find one shortly. There are a few threads with the same subject as all of this with lots of replies. Sirch for them and read up.

[79redneck460]

Originally Posted by Dr.Danger

Your axles are not going to hold up long with 42's. The dana 44 should have 35s on it max if you want it to live.

they can handle more than 35s . i got set of 38.5 sx's on my 3/4 44 and my rig is probly a little heavier than his is , i use it as my dd and a weekend wheeler with no problems

[AllGoNoShow]

Originally Posted by 79redneck460

they can handle more than 35s . i got set of 38.5 sx's on my 3/4 44 and my rig is probly a little heavier than his is , i use it as my dd and a weekend wheeler with no problems

While I do agree with you to some extent. 42's are going to be a little much for the d44. I beat on my f-150 with 38.5's pretty hard, and it has kind of suprised me at how much abuse it can take. Leave the diff open and see what happens.

[AllGoNoShow]

6'' lift and 42's

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4'' with 38.5's

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Your tires will be hitting your cab mounts without any lift and tires around 36"-38"

[Dr.Danger]

Originally Posted by 79redneck460

they can handle more than 35s . i got set of 38.5 sx's on my 3/4 44 and my rig is probly a little heavier than his is , i use it as my dd and a weekend wheeler with no problems

I agree with you, but it really is dependent on the driver and the amount of power going into them. A feather light throttle foot definitely will help the 44 last longer with larger tires. Still wouldn't run over 37's on one myself.

[Proeliator]

Originally Posted by fatdan460

sorry no pics, but 94 f250 with a 3'' body lift and 40'' tsl's

Originally Posted by fatdan460

here's my buddy paul's 1 ton bronco with a 4'' lift and 40'' boggers.

What the fuck part of big tires and no lift can't you comprehend?

Shit, SuperBeast has no bodylift and no spring lift so that must count, right? I know you're posting more elsewhere with your nwu banning but get some reading comprehension for shits sake. And yes, I'm bashing you based on the thread title not on his minimal lift clause he added at the end of his post

edit: Does Paul know you're claiming him as a buddy?

[cdawall]

will have to get a pic but 35s fit with no lift on like a F150 460 4x4 but the rub on speedbumps let alone offroading

[snoopdog970]

okay....Here is my 79 F150 with dual shocks up front and a factory suspension lift...I am running 35x12.50x17 Kumho MT's......I clear everwhere but use it only to pull my other truck to the mud races and drive to my hunting spot....

[5BrothersFabrication]

38.5's+3 sawzall blades=no lift!

[79redneck460]

agreed 42's is too much for a 44. i don't normaly wheel mine really hard unless i have to anyhow as its still a dd . i think bein a open diff makes a big difference in it still bein alive though .

[88-4x4yota]

So if I just make like a 3in body lift or something like that then I shoudl be fine as to hitting the body mounts, other than that I can just trim the shit right?

[AllGoNoShow]

Originally Posted by 88-4x4yota

So if I just make like a 3in body lift or something like that then I shoudl be fine as to hitting the body mounts, other than that I can just trim the shit right?

sigh.

[Proeliator]

Originally Posted by 79redneck460

agreed 42's is too much for a 44.

Yup. I was breaking one ton axles with 42's. It all depends on how you wheel, and how the rest of the rig is set up.

Basically, if you have an anemic motor, a slushbox tranny, open diffs, and stick to the mall; then a d44 can handle 42's.

[fatdan460]

Originally Posted by Proeliator

What the fuck part of big tires and no lift can't you comprehend?

Shit, SuperBeast has no bodylift and no spring lift so that must count, right? I know you're posting more elsewhere with your nwu banning but get some reading comprehension for shits sake. And yes, I'm bashing you based on the thread title not on his minimal lift clause he added at the end of his post

edit: Does Paul know you're claiming him as a buddy?

dear seth, i use buddy like the term acquaintance. i know him, we speak on the phone and are on some forums.

why do you think i asked the op what his intentions were? 42's and no lift brings the suck for all but mud really. not a whole lot of uptravel with no lift at all and everything is pretty fawking close if you do plan to flex it out. but that's just my opinion. i think pauls setup is good all around, not too tall with a decent chop on the wells, but i am gonna have around 10''s of lift and 40's so what ever floats this guys boat, it's his truck.

[the_white_shadow]

Its a dodge, but you get the idea.

I had to. Its an oldie but a goodie.

[scott037]

well you know i have been doing some measuring and my ranger which has 42's and one ton almost has no lift and i flexes great (60inches i beleive) it only has 3 inches up travel. it is the down travel that matters for crawlin. now for going fast i need 1.25 inches more up travel is my guess for the front anyways. the back is cushy till about 40-45 in the whoops.


p.s. i had to remove the front clip including body mounts to make this work plus no bed it was in the way.

[custom724x4]

39.5x18 boggers, took 2 inches off front frenders all the way around

[88-4x4yota]

How bad will I have to trim the calipers to clear 15in wheels on my 44?

[82F100SWB]

I wasn't going to bother being it's the wrong body style, but, oh well...


86 F250 with a 60 swap, and TTB springs, so, a little below stock F350 ride height, 3" BL, and 38.5x11 Boggers... The bed was fucked anyway, so I didn't bother lifting it and broke out the sawz all.

Super duty spring swap, 3.5" or so reverse shackle kit, and a rear shackle flip, so, about 5" suspension front, 4" rear, 3" body, and alot of chopped front fender, 44's...


Prior to fender hackage:


Yes, the axle is forward of stock. Other than the shackle reversal crossmember which is rather ugly and unfinished in the pictures, there is not one suspension part in that truck that isn't OEM Ford, so I could argue it's on all factory suspension... LOL