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Stranger ranger · 03-15-2011, 10:08 AM

Prob should put this in newb section but its Tuesday so I'm safe

Before prime wheeling season hits I'm gonna attempt to install my first set of gears in the old 60's. Shouldn't be too bad with some help from a buddy who is semi-knowledgeable in installing them. My only question is this, when buying the gear sets, (its a reverse cut standard 79 ford 60), do I need to buy the think gear set for the front and standard thin for the back or do both need to be thick? I read the bible, and went back this morning and skimmed through it to see what it requires but I couldn't find my answer, I prob just missed it, didn't have time to look at every word on both pages. I know the front needs the thick set but what about the back? Spiders are welded front and rear so I dont have to worry about buying lockers down the road and getting screwed up with the wrong locker for the type of gears I have. I wanna run 5.13's also and want to make sure I can without changing carriers, from what I got from the bible, I dont have to.

82F100SWB · 03-15-2011, 11:01 AM

To do it without changing carriers you'll be needing thick for front and rear, assuming your current ratio is 4.10 or less, provided that you can get standard rotation thicks in 5.13, you may have to change carriers if there is no availability.

Stranger ranger · 03-15-2011, 01:18 PM

yep, both ratios are the stock 4.10's. My only concern was that I knew it needed the thick gearset on the front RC axle, but I wasnt sure about the rear.

73 ford guy · 03-15-2011, 04:52 PM

Yes you have to run thick gears for both unless the carrier is for 4:56 and up but if it's a stock carrier it won't be and it will be 4:10 and down. That is the carrier break for these axles. The difference of offset between the two carriers is 3/16. I know thus from tech from randys ring and pinion. So with that said there "is" a possibility to run a thin regular gear with a ring gear spacer. I think trans dapt sells one but alot will advise it's not ideal but if you torque the crap out if the ring gear bolts with red lock tite it should be fine. I am curious if anyone has had a real world failure not I heard once my brothers uncles friend kinda crap if there was a failure do to a spacer...

Stranger ranger · 03-16-2011, 05:47 AM

why would it be beneficial to run the thin gears and a spacer? Are the thinner gear sets naturally cheaper?

duncanstives · 03-16-2011, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Stranger ranger

why would it be beneficial to run the thin gears and a spacer? Are the thinner gear sets naturally cheaper?

I think people are saying kit may be difficult to find a that ratio for your axle in a thick cut gear. If you cant find one you may have to go with a spacer.

73 ford guy · 03-16-2011, 06:47 AM

It's nit beneficial to run a spacer it's just a solution if you have a 5:13 thin gear and again nit always the best solution. 5:13 thick gears are NOT hard to find either . Go to randys ring and pinion and it has a "T" in front of the part # for thick. There's a few brands available.

Stranger ranger · 03-18-2011, 07:13 AM

I didnt think it was hard to find, but thats good to know i have a solution IF thats the ratio i went with.

03-15-2011, 10:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Stranger ranger Always Busted Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99058 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 753	dana 60 r&P Prob should put this in newb section but its Tuesday so I'm safe Before prime wheeling season hits I'm gonna attempt to install my first set of gears in the old 60's. Shouldn't be too bad with some help from a buddy who is semi-knowledgeable in installing them. My only question is this, when buying the gear sets, (its a reverse cut standard 79 ford 60), do I need to buy the think gear set for the front and standard thin for the back or do both need to be thick? I read the bible, and went back this morning and skimmed through it to see what it requires but I couldn't find my answer, I prob just missed it, didn't have time to look at every word on both pages. I know the front needs the thick set but what about the back? Spiders are welded front and rear so I dont have to worry about buying lockers down the road and getting screwed up with the wrong locker for the type of gears I have. I wanna run 5.13's also and want to make sure I can without changing carriers, from what I got from the bible, I dont have to.

03-15-2011, 11:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
82F100SWB Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 15263 Location: Winterpeg, Canada Posts: 2,048	To do it without changing carriers you'll be needing thick for front and rear, assuming your current ratio is 4.10 or less, provided that you can get standard rotation thicks in 5.13, you may have to change carriers if there is no availability. __________________ 96 F350 XL CC PSD/5 speed 4x4... New Tow pig in the making 96 F250 XLT Ex Cab PSD/5 speed 4x4... DD/Tow Pig 92 W250 LE, CTD/5 speed 4x4, tow pig/DD/snow pushin pig 86 F250... 460/T19/1345/D60/welded 10.25, 44 Boggers, reg cab, some junk... [URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=853402&highlight="]Build[/URL]

03-15-2011, 04:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
73 ford guy Granite Guru Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 54530 Location: Victoria b.c Posts: 745	Yes you have to run thick gears for both unless the carrier is for 4:56 and up but if it's a stock carrier it won't be and it will be 4:10 and down. That is the carrier break for these axles. The difference of offset between the two carriers is 3/16. I know thus from tech from randys ring and pinion. So with that said there "is" a possibility to run a thin regular gear with a ring gear spacer. I think trans dapt sells one but alot will advise it's not ideal but if you torque the crap out if the ring gear bolts with red lock tite it should be fine. I am curious if anyone has had a real world failure not I heard once my brothers uncles friend kinda crap if there was a failure do to a spacer... __________________ 73 F-250 44's,428,twin sticked 205,60 fr,70 rear,ARB/Detroit,crossover high steer/hydro assist,winches

03-16-2011, 06:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
73 ford guy Granite Guru Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 54530 Location: Victoria b.c Posts: 745	It's nit beneficial to run a spacer it's just a solution if you have a 5:13 thin gear and again nit always the best solution. 5:13 thick gears are NOT hard to find either . Go to randys ring and pinion and it has a "T" in front of the part # for thick. There's a few brands available. __________________ 73 F-250 44's,428,twin sticked 205,60 fr,70 rear,ARB/Detroit,crossover high steer/hydro assist,winches

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03-15-2011, 01:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
Stranger ranger Always Busted Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99058 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 753	yep, both ratios are the stock 4.10's. My only concern was that I knew it needed the thick gearset on the front RC axle, but I wasnt sure about the rear.

03-16-2011, 05:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
Stranger ranger Always Busted Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99058 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 753	why would it be beneficial to run the thin gears and a spacer? Are the thinner gear sets naturally cheaper?

03-18-2011, 07:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
Stranger ranger Always Busted Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99058 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 753	I didnt think it was hard to find, but thats good to know i have a solution IF thats the ratio i went with.