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Old 06-07-2011, 11:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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front hangers on front leaf setup hang too low

so im doing the front suspension right now on my 76 frame. ive decided to use 52" IH pickup rear springs. ive already made the rear shackle hangers, which sucks because after doing some simple mock up, the front hangers are going to need to sit a good 13" under the bottom of the frame, for the spring eyes to be at the same height. i definitely do not want my front hangers to sit this low. the rear hanger shackle bolt is only 1 1/2" under the frame with the brackets i made. how do i make up for this since the front of the fords 70's frame rises up a good 6" from where the rear spring mounting is. anyone have any pictures of there custom front leaf spring setup? id like to just move my rear shackle mounting into the frame so the front hanger will not hang down so low. im running a d60 37" perch eye to perch eye. the leaves are not going to be completely outboarded of the frame and are also not completely inboarded directly centered to the frame, it is about 1" in the frame and 1 1/2" outside the frame. chevy guys have it easy, they just throw longer shackles n theyre done. give me some ideas. my goal is to have the frt spring hangers mounting holes within 7" of the bottom of the frame, because it gets janky when they hang down si much and im definitely not going that route
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here are some mock up pics... just to show how low they would roughly hang in front if i was to run this setup.. notice the offset under the frame..

that is a 1" ruler between the top of the spring to the bottom of the frame



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Cut down the shackles as much as you can, then make due with what you can get away with on the front hanger. Then use a degree shim or cut and turn the pumpkin
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Yup... shorten those rear shackles some and rotate the housing up to make it work. I'm guessing you'd like to have your front hangers maybe about 6" under the frame?
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what about how the stock toyotas/chevys are, with the shackle mounting inside the frame rails. anyone done something like that? pics?
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if anyone has done a good setup with leaves and has some pics/advise that would help.. but in the mean time ive put a lot of thought into just 4-linking it..i have never done this, definitely capable, but i basically dont know where to start. can anyone guide me in the right direction on a 4-link susp?
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front hanger. 57" stock ford rears
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My buddy did this to a 78 bronco with an 80s model d60 front. His shackle hanger is completely outside the frame. Are you sure you measure right? You should be outboard of the frame 2.5" on either side. Ill see if i can get him to take pics of his.
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offset shackle idea

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cant do that just look at the pics. perch center bolt to perch center bolt is exactly 37". its out of a 89 F250. i just decided to 4 link it..anyone done a 4 link front with a 435/203/205 combo. need to figure out where my center links are going to be, under the trans, im thinking. need to make sure the driver side link doesnt hit driveshaft during compression. any pics would help
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60 out of an 89 F250? That was swapped in.
Also, look at the angle on the perches on that axle, if you springs are sitting level you will have the pinion rolled up far too much, and you'll need to turn the knuckles to correct caster. In order to work with the stock perches on that axle, your springs must be higher at the front than the rear.
You can see what I mean here:
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ya i see what you mean. that doesnt even look like itd have barely any travel anyways. im just going to link it. still not sure if i want to 4 link or 3 link with panhard. what easier to do without link hitting driveshaft?
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