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Tinman · 03-07-2007, 08:04 PM

Consider this a notice of intent!

My name is Bret Preble aka Tinman. Some of you may know me.

My partners in this venture are Keith Ratzburg aka El Rolo (I'm sure you all know him) and Jeff Degnan aka Rain Fly (

)

I have many years experience in the off road world, mostly in motorcycles. I am an AMA life member as well as a member of Cal 4WD Association and Blue Ribbon Coalition. I am a member of both Four Dice Four Wheel Drive Club and Insomnia 4X4. My rig is a tubed BBC Blazer Truggy on 42" Iroks. I am married (25 years, two grown children, daughter (a professional chef) and son (sheet metal worker like me.))

Keith has been wheeling since he was an infant in a car seat. He is a Blue Ribbon Life Member and a Cal member as well. El Rolo is a member of the Four Dice 4WD Club and Insomnia 4X4. His rig is a Jeep based buggy (ha ha nothing Jeep left!) He is a founding member of the Four Dice 4WD Club. Keith is the guy that got me enthused about 4 wheeling and is my best friend. He is single, loves wheeling and scoccer (former professional) and is looking for a life partner. Interested gals may reply here.

Jeff is also a member of Cal, Blue Ribbon, Four Dice and Insomnia and has been active in off roading for many years. He's a former wrestling champion and can kick anybodies ass but won't. Jeff is a gentle giant who just happens to be able to twist a truck tire into a figure eight!

His rig is a SBC YJ with an auto, Atlas , 14 bolt rear and a Dana 60 front. He is also my best friend. Jeff is married to a great gal named Jeannine aka Jinngaa who loves turtles and brakes for chickens and they have two pre-teens.

We are going to start the Friends of Fordyce. We love this trail and see the need to preserve it just as the FOTR has done with the Rubicon. In fact, both Keith and myself have completed Del Albrights Leadership course and we have the full support and counseling of Del himself. We have a very close working relationship with the Forest Service and are in close and constant contact with Mary Furney and Joe Chavez of the Tahoe National Forest. We have been talking about this for many months and have a meeting set of later this month to hammer out the details of our mission statement and our website format. My wife Traci aka Tinkerbell will be webmaster. She is an enthusiastic supporter of the FOF. Tink is a 20 year veteran of group exercise and is certified in just about everything to make you wish you never even thought about stepping foot in a gym. She keeps me hurting and in shape.

Our plan is to get our website up and running, do a survey and GPS mapping of the Fordyce trail asap, come up with a list of must do projects, and solicit the full support of the Fordyce Adopt-a-Trail clubs. We will include an e-mail volunteer sign up link in our website for all you interested and caring wheelers. We have talked about having a FOF bulletin board linked to our home page so current events and FAQ's can be readily available to everyone.

I have about 2 years to go before I can retire and devote my efforts full time to this. Keith and Jeff are both young pups (as they constantly remind me) and can carry on after I am unable.

We see this as a necessary step in the preservation of the Fordyce trail. We will actively solicit the support of the Cal 4WD Association since one of their own rediscovered the Fordyce and because they love this trail too.

Our goals are to organize the maintenance and repair of the Fordyce trail and to educate and inform all users in the behavior that is in the best interest of us all for the continued use of the Fordyce trail and all trails we want to preserve. We will keep you informed of our progess and hope to see you on the trail.

Tinman

BEAR · 03-07-2007, 08:08 PM

You guys rock and have my full support

randii · 03-07-2007, 08:17 PM

Excellent -- I'm in, but I want to run a shovel for you, instead of a clipboard. It will be cool to assist with FOTR leadership and also assist with the grunt-work on Fordyce.

Thanks for stepping up to lead!

Randii

Tinman · 03-07-2007, 08:43 PM

Thanks Bear. Thanks Randy.

By the way Randy I am doing my best to emulate you in the impersonation of Jesus (hair and beard.)

You, Scott and Del have really inspired the three of us to step up and make a difference. We will lose the fight if new leaders are not created. We can only hope to be as successful as the FOTR. Thanks to you guys for being the guiding light.

RCKRATZ · 03-07-2007, 11:29 PM

Well thanks for the intro there Bret

In a nutshell, after taking a long look at all the work that needs to be done to Fordyce it became more & more apparent to us that with the dramatic increase in traffic there was no viable way that the adopt-a-trail clubs of Fordyce could tackle all of the major project work needed. As the head of our cleanup effort (Four Dice 4wdc) for 3 years I constantly found myself having to pick & choose the projects we would tackle, while knowing full well that there were big issues in the future that our small club would never be able to remedy on its own. The Tahoe NF does not have the funds to spearhead this effort so it is on us as users of the trail to make this thing happen.

At any rate we figured that we should give it a shot so here we are

FORYOURRIDE · 03-07-2007, 11:41 PM

i think this is great. the con has alot of help, now its fordyce turn. lets keep it clean and open

Lonny

add me to your list/e-mails

1uglyranger · 03-08-2007, 12:11 AM

Bret, and Kieth, I hope you know you have my full support, and the support of every member of TDO... I love that trail just as much as the con

k5chevyblazer · 03-08-2007, 01:02 AM

For sure I am in and the rest if TDO.

jethrodeg · 03-08-2007, 02:29 AM

Nice bio Bret.

I personally have been looking to do more for our trails to ensure they are still around for my children to enjoy. I have enjoyed the Sierras for close to 40 years so it’s time to give some back in one of the best ways I can think of…FOF

Rockodile · 03-08-2007, 02:33 AM

You can count me in, will go out and get a new shovel so I have one for each trail! I joined FOTR to learn the Rubicon, now I will join FOF to learn Fordyce and help preserve another of California's Crown Jewels.

microtus · 03-08-2007, 05:40 AM

I'm in.

Thank you, and your club, for past work and stepping up to the plate.

ps. Jesus never had a mohawk

jtraver · 03-08-2007, 05:43 AM

I have not had a chance to run Fordyce with my Jeep yet, but I have been on the quads. Would love to help anyway I can. Let me know if you guys need flyers or handouts for this I donated a ton of them last year for FOTR to had out at the shack.

Jack

CrazyHorse · 03-08-2007, 06:25 AM

As several of my brothers have already said, I'm In! I'm sure the rest of my Dysfunctional brothers will be too.

rockwrangler · 03-08-2007, 06:46 AM

You know I'll help out.

jwag · 03-08-2007, 06:52 AM

Thanks Guys,

Count me in

-I swear I posted this last night???

Tinman · 03-08-2007, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jethrodeg

Nice bio Bret.

I changed yours a little Jeff. Didn't want to give everyone the impression you go around beating people up. You just could if you wanted to!

Seriously, we wouldn't be at this point if the three of us hadn't become friends. This is a team effort and I can honestly say we have a great team.

I hope people will see we're serious about this endevor but want to keep it light and fun at the same time.

Bender · 03-08-2007, 07:27 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing this group get going! Keep us posted... Fordyce is an amazing place!

sand dune coon · 03-08-2007, 07:34 AM

i like the sound of this,, im in!!!

JeepingEaglesChick · 03-08-2007, 08:30 AM

Awesome! You have my support as well.

Rubicrawler · 03-08-2007, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1uglyranger

Bret, and Kieth, I hope you know you have my full support, and the support of every member of TDO... I love that trail just as much as the con

x2

Let's talk more about this tomorrow at HH

geberhard · 03-08-2007, 08:39 AM

Definitely have my support, awesome cause!

Gui

jethrodeg · 03-08-2007, 08:49 AM

Thanks for all the support guys! Teamwork is what is going to take and we are off to a good start right here. Awesome!!

plug ugly · 03-08-2007, 08:59 AM

Im in too if you guys need help. i worked with bret and keith a few years ago on the trail over by winch hill one, and it is clear they are dedicated to this trail.

jethrodeg · 03-08-2007, 09:12 AM

Just for the record Friends of Fordyce (FOF) has no connection to Fourdice 4WDC….100% independent.

Big Rich · 03-08-2007, 09:16 AM

Great news....

03-07-2007, 08:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tinman Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21358 Location: Georgetown, Ca Posts: 1,500	Click On This If You Love The Fordyce Trail! Consider this a notice of intent! My name is Bret Preble aka Tinman. Some of you may know me. My partners in this venture are Keith Ratzburg aka El Rolo (I'm sure you all know him) and Jeff Degnan aka Rain Fly ( ) I have many years experience in the off road world, mostly in motorcycles. I am an AMA life member as well as a member of Cal 4WD Association and Blue Ribbon Coalition. I am a member of both Four Dice Four Wheel Drive Club and Insomnia 4X4. My rig is a tubed BBC Blazer Truggy on 42" Iroks. I am married (25 years, two grown children, daughter (a professional chef) and son (sheet metal worker like me.)) Keith has been wheeling since he was an infant in a car seat. He is a Blue Ribbon Life Member and a Cal member as well. El Rolo is a member of the Four Dice 4WD Club and Insomnia 4X4. His rig is a Jeep based buggy (ha ha nothing Jeep left!) He is a founding member of the Four Dice 4WD Club. Keith is the guy that got me enthused about 4 wheeling and is my best friend. He is single, loves wheeling and scoccer (former professional) and is looking for a life partner. Interested gals may reply here. Jeff is also a member of Cal, Blue Ribbon, Four Dice and Insomnia and has been active in off roading for many years. He's a former wrestling champion and can kick anybodies ass but won't. Jeff is a gentle giant who just happens to be able to twist a truck tire into a figure eight! His rig is a SBC YJ with an auto, Atlas , 14 bolt rear and a Dana 60 front. He is also my best friend. Jeff is married to a great gal named Jeannine aka Jinngaa who loves turtles and brakes for chickens and they have two pre-teens. We are going to start the Friends of Fordyce. We love this trail and see the need to preserve it just as the FOTR has done with the Rubicon. In fact, both Keith and myself have completed Del Albrights Leadership course and we have the full support and counseling of Del himself. We have a very close working relationship with the Forest Service and are in close and constant contact with Mary Furney and Joe Chavez of the Tahoe National Forest. We have been talking about this for many months and have a meeting set of later this month to hammer out the details of our mission statement and our website format. My wife Traci aka Tinkerbell will be webmaster. She is an enthusiastic supporter of the FOF. Tink is a 20 year veteran of group exercise and is certified in just about everything to make you wish you never even thought about stepping foot in a gym. She keeps me hurting and in shape. Our plan is to get our website up and running, do a survey and GPS mapping of the Fordyce trail asap, come up with a list of must do projects, and solicit the full support of the Fordyce Adopt-a-Trail clubs. We will include an e-mail volunteer sign up link in our website for all you interested and caring wheelers. We have talked about having a FOF bulletin board linked to our home page so current events and FAQ's can be readily available to everyone. I have about 2 years to go before I can retire and devote my efforts full time to this. Keith and Jeff are both young pups (as they constantly remind me) and can carry on after I am unable. We see this as a necessary step in the preservation of the Fordyce trail. We will actively solicit the support of the Cal 4WD Association since one of their own rediscovered the Fordyce and because they love this trail too. Our goals are to organize the maintenance and repair of the Fordyce trail and to educate and inform all users in the behavior that is in the best interest of us all for the continued use of the Fordyce trail and all trails we want to preserve. We will keep you informed of our progess and hope to see you on the trail. Tinman __________________ Bret Preble President Friends of Fordyce Friends of Fordyce KJ6NQN BLUE RIBBON COALITION, CALIFORNIA 4WD ASSOCIATION, AMA LIFE MEMBER Last edited by Tinman; 03-08-2007 at 07:10 AM.

03-07-2007, 08:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
BEAR Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1746 Location: Colfax CA Posts: 3,564	You guys rock and have my full support __________________ Still Politically Uncorrect

03-07-2007, 08:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tinman Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21358 Location: Georgetown, Ca Posts: 1,500	Thanks Bear. Thanks Randy. By the way Randy I am doing my best to emulate you in the impersonation of Jesus (hair and beard.) You, Scott and Del have really inspired the three of us to step up and make a difference. We will lose the fight if new leaders are not created. We can only hope to be as successful as the FOTR. Thanks to you guys for being the guiding light. __________________ Bret Preble President Friends of Fordyce Friends of Fordyce KJ6NQN BLUE RIBBON COALITION, CALIFORNIA 4WD ASSOCIATION, AMA LIFE MEMBER

03-07-2007, 11:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
RCKRATZ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Member # 2485 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 2,966	Well thanks for the intro there Bret In a nutshell, after taking a long look at all the work that needs to be done to Fordyce it became more & more apparent to us that with the dramatic increase in traffic there was no viable way that the adopt-a-trail clubs of Fordyce could tackle all of the major project work needed. As the head of our cleanup effort (Four Dice 4wdc) for 3 years I constantly found myself having to pick & choose the projects we would tackle, while knowing full well that there were big issues in the future that our small club would never be able to remedy on its own. The Tahoe NF does not have the funds to spearhead this effort so it is on us as users of the trail to make this thing happen. At any rate we figured that we should give it a shot so here we are __________________ Keith Ratzburg aka "El Rolo" Friends of Fordyce-Director

03-07-2007, 11:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
FORYOURRIDE Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43831 Posts: 865	i think this is great. the con has alot of help, now its fordyce turn. lets keep it clean and open Lonny add me to your list/e-mails __________________ CJ5 with 350/350/300 38.5s

03-07-2007, 08:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
randii Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 347 Location: Fair Oaks, CA Posts: 10,082	Excellent -- I'm in, but I want to run a shovel for you, instead of a clipboard. It will be cool to assist with FOTR leadership and also assist with the grunt-work on Fordyce. Thanks for stepping up to lead! Randii

03-08-2007, 12:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
1uglyranger Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6576 Location: Oakley, CA Posts: 6,109	Bret, and Kieth, I hope you know you have my full support, and the support of every member of TDO... I love that trail just as much as the con __________________ Brian Whitford 711 Dysfunctional Rockcrawlers Rage 4th............ "safety is our #2 concern" Last edited by 1uglyranger; 03-08-2007 at 07:33 AM.

03-08-2007, 01:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
k5chevyblazer Rock God Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16358 Location: Sacramento, CA (North Natomas) Posts: 2,133	For sure I am in and the rest if TDO. __________________ Ryan Morgan Tow Rig = 2006 Chevy Silverado 3500 Rock Toy = 1973 K5 Buggy Automatic Gates by Morgan and we are on Facebook too. Who is the FOTR? Who is the RTF?

03-08-2007, 02:29 AM	#9 (permalink)
jethrodeg H Rated Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 36099 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,281	Nice bio Bret. I personally have been looking to do more for our trails to ensure they are still around for my children to enjoy. I have enjoyed the Sierras for close to 40 years so it’s time to give some back in one of the best ways I can think of…FOF __________________ *Friends of Fordyce*

03-08-2007, 02:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
Rockodile Banned Join Date: May 2004 Member # 30188 Location: Way Out There Posts: 144	You can count me in, will go out and get a new shovel so I have one for each trail! I joined FOTR to learn the Rubicon, now I will join FOF to learn Fordyce and help preserve another of California's Crown Jewels.

03-08-2007, 05:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
microtus Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19251 Location: Dixon, Ca Posts: 842	I'm in. Thank you, and your club, for past work and stepping up to the plate. ps. Jesus never had a mohawk __________________ RIP Dennis Mayer KI6MLD

03-08-2007, 05:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
jtraver Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 53626 Location: sac, ca Posts: 537	I'm In I have not had a chance to run Fordyce with my Jeep yet, but I have been on the quads. Would love to help anyway I can. Let me know if you guys need flyers or handouts for this I donated a ton of them last year for FOTR to had out at the shack. Jack

03-08-2007, 06:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
CrazyHorse Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3420 Location: Martinez, CA, USA Posts: 1,021	As several of my brothers have already said, I'm In! I'm sure the rest of my Dysfunctional brothers will be too. __________________ John Foottit 70 bronco, lightly modded Contact me for your custom Cabinetry Needs [URL="http://www.beniciacabinetry.com"][B]Benicia Cabinetry, Inc.[/B][/URL]

03-08-2007, 06:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
rockwrangler Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12263 Location: not here legal then go home Posts: 1,062	You know I'll help out. __________________ TTC Recovery/Safety guy Jeep wrangler warn9500/ 3-linkft-4 linkR/37" GY M/T beadlocks,truehi-9 rear detroit, 44 front ox-locker warn shafts CTM joints/Atlas 5-1,coilovers ECT. Member: Friends Of The Rubicon,Cal 4--wheel clubs Asso.,Blue Ribbion coalition, Motherload Rockcrawlers

03-08-2007, 06:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
jwag Rock God Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7638 Location: norcal Posts: 1,095	Thanks Guys, Count me in -I swear I posted this last night??? __________________ www.westcoastfabworks.com

03-08-2007, 08:39 AM	#21 (permalink)
geberhard Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5861 Location: California Posts: 8,491	Definitely have my support, awesome cause! Gui __________________ Help us cure kids cancer! Shave for the cause :) Tips on how to build your Jeep bigger! New build, daily driver TJ on 44" rubbers Project hot 40 year old

03-08-2007, 07:27 AM	#17 (permalink)
Bender Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Member # 2407 Location: Grass Valley Posts: 258	I'm looking forward to seeing this group get going! Keep us posted... Fordyce is an amazing place!

03-08-2007, 07:34 AM	#18 (permalink)
sand dune coon Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 57123 Location: Bay Area Cali Posts: 887	i like the sound of this,, im in!!! Last edited by sand dune coon; 03-08-2007 at 07:34 AM.

03-08-2007, 08:30 AM	#19 (permalink)
JeepingEaglesChick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29910 Location: San Mateo Posts: 912	Awesome! You have my support as well. __________________ Dysfunctional Rockcrawlers

03-08-2007, 08:49 AM	#22 (permalink)
jethrodeg H Rated Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 36099 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,281	Thanks for all the support guys! Teamwork is what is going to take and we are off to a good start right here. Awesome!! __________________ *Friends of Fordyce*

03-08-2007, 08:59 AM	#23 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,819	Im in too if you guys need help. i worked with bret and keith a few years ago on the trail over by winch hill one, and it is clear they are dedicated to this trail. __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

03-08-2007, 09:12 AM	#24 (permalink)
jethrodeg H Rated Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 36099 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,281	Just for the record Friends of Fordyce (FOF) has no connection to Fourdice 4WDC….100% independent. __________________ *Friends of Fordyce*

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