Fordyce-Harder then the rubi? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

PizzaFarno · 06-04-2007, 11:59 AM

hey
i was wondering if fordyce was truely harder then the rubicon, because the pictures look like so. Im a little scared when i go on the sierra trek this year.
my jeep can make the rubicon pretty easily. Would it be able to make it w/o breaking things? heres a quik rundown
cj-7, model 20 1 pieced detroit locked, dana 30 cromo shafts w/ 44 outers and lockright locked. Spring under

-has no ubold flip kit on so there is horrible clearence. dana 300 6:1 and bla bla bla-one last thing it has 35's and 5.5 lift

ANTHONYFARLEY · 06-04-2007, 12:12 PM

Your Rig Sounds Very Capable To Me! I Dont Know Your Wheelin Exp. Is But If You Say You Have Made It Tro The Con Easily Then You Will Be Fine I Have Seen Guys Take A Stock Toyota Tro Just Cut Fenders And Big Tires It Has A Lot To Do With Driver Skills! Relax And Youll Be Fine Its A Great Trail!

Tinman · 06-04-2007, 12:33 PM

Don't even worry about it. During Trek the trail is so stacked you can practically drive a Civic up it.

PizzaFarno · 06-04-2007, 01:03 PM

thanks for the comments guys and for the reassurance to go.

patfo · 06-04-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Don't even worry about it. During Trek the trail is so stacked you can practically drive a Civic up it.

Plus you have people stationed at all the winch hills to pull you up. You'll never be alone so plenty of help should a problem arise.

You'll have a great time.

mountainhead · 06-07-2007, 08:12 AM

It is just as much fun as then con, a little less crowded (except for sierra trek). If you can do the con then you can do fordyce creek. The only big diffrence (IMHO) is there are no real bypass routes. Don't be intimidated, Sierra Trek is the time to do it for the first time. You will have a blast!

WHITE RHINO · 06-07-2007, 01:30 PM

i would say its definitely harder

Clifcattankass · 06-08-2007, 10:34 AM

its a cake walk, but the nice thing is you can make it as hard as you want

olivesta500 · 06-08-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PizzaFarno

dana 300 6:1

[hijack] got any details on those 6:1 gears? [/hijack]

colonelmustard · 06-08-2007, 03:35 PM

imho its much harder. This is because the rocks are looser and move around more (wheel spin- catch traction- KAAAAPOWWWW!) and the deep water crossing (not a factor during the Trek). But definately not as crowded as the 'con, which is a HUGE plus.

BLK Scout 800 · 06-09-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by olivesta500

[hijack] got any details on those 6:1 gears? [/hijack]

X2

mountainhead · 06-11-2007, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olivesta500

[hijack] got any details on those 6:1 gears? [/hijack]

X3

Rubicrawler · 06-11-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by olivesta500

[hijack] got any details on those 6:1 gears? [/hijack]

I'm guessing it should read "dana 300, 6:1" meaning 6:1 trans

fordori · 06-13-2007, 12:13 PM

rubicon is harder if you dont go around the hard spots. serria trek has its spots but you can go around most of them to.

toy4crawlin · 06-14-2007, 03:48 PM

to Anwser your question,
Yes Fordyce is more technical than Rubicon.
More fun and challenging hills.

Sierra trek was a bit disapointing for me last year
It's crazy to drive 1.5 hours past the trail head to camp, then get up at 3am to drive 1.5 hours back to trails head for a 6am meet.

There were some fun spots,(river crossings) and I saw a lot of breakage, I had to winch a Defender 90 out of the creek because he broke his rear

It was a cake walk for me though, never had to back up ot try a different route

Front Arb, used sometimes on the winchhills
Rear locker
Dual Case 90:1 and 206:1
worn 36's TSL's

NO ProblemO

Do it in a

PizzaFarno · 06-15-2007, 09:04 AM

damn, are you fawkin serious? 3 am?? I just signed up yesterday

toy4crawlin · 06-15-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PizzaFarno

damn, are you fawkin serious? 3 am?? I just signed up yesterday

YEA !

that's what I said when I finnaly made it into camp at 9pm

hard to find a decent camp site in the Dark!

For that reason I will not be doing that Trip again !
Hope your not convertible, It's COLD @ 3am

I heard some people camp at trail head but then all your camp gear is in your rig.

Trail head start 6:30am
back to camp 3pm

Once you start you'll Have fun

Lord Orange · 06-15-2007, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PizzaFarno

hey
i was wondering if fordyce was truely harder then the rubicon, because the pictures look like so. Im a little scared when i go on the sierra trek this year.
my jeep can make the rubicon pretty easily. Would it be able to make it w/o breaking things? heres a quik rundown
cj-7, model 20 1 pieced detroit locked, dana 30 cromo shafts w/ 44 outers and lockright locked. Spring under

-has no ubold flip kit on so there is horrible clearence. dana 300 6:1 and bla bla bla-one last thing it has 35's and 5.5 lift

Yes it is harder. If you ran it at Sierra trek (ankle high water), I think you need to run it when the real boys go play. I am talking about full on flow, 4-5 feet of water. Ask chopperman he has cruised by me when I was changing my headgasket.

JDunn · 06-15-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by toy4crawlin

I heard some people camp at trail head but then all your camp gear is in your rig.

Once you start you'll Have fun

Ya you have your camping gear. What is the difrence between that and going up any other weekend. It is nice not having lots of gear but it is not bad.

toy4crawlin · 06-15-2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Orange

Yes it is harder. If you ran it at Sierra trek (ankle high water), I think you need to run it when the real boys go play. I am talking about full on flow, 4-5 feet of water. Ask chopperman he has cruised by me when I was changing my headgasket.

A lot said there !

I missed the High water flow @ Sierra trek. the event was A lot easier than a regular group run I did years back. I think I missed some technical spots too, that's why I came back.
I had 4 of us in my 4runner, so there was not enough space for all our gear and the 2 girls.

Would like to run again for sure but with a small group of expeirenced drivers.

I'm getting tired of trails made easier for all and Jeeps, (aka Gate keeper at Rubicon is Gone Now !

Trail tested My ASS!

jeep

OOP'S · 06-17-2007, 06:47 PM

You mean like this? 4-dice is a harder trail the the Con even at the Trek. The biggest reason is the trail is not groomed like the do for the J.J. on the Con.

jethrodeg · 06-17-2007, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OOP'S

You mean like this? 4-dice is a harder trail the the Con even at the Trek. The biggest reason is the trail is not groomed like the do for the J.J. on the Con.

Fordyce is extremely “groomed” during Trek.

OOP'S · 06-17-2007, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jethrodeg

Fordyce is extremely “groomed” during Trek.

Not any time I have worked on the committee, which has been the last seven years. You do not know what "groomed" is until you run theCon after a J.J.

Brandon · 06-18-2007, 09:03 AM

In my opinion if your not geared low Fordyce is harder, if you are it is easier. More small rocks, and rubicon seems to have more open spaces. I was geared before going on fordyce so it has never seemed hard to me, not even any of the "winch" hills or the so called waterfall thing next to the narrow spot - whatever it is called.

Tinman · 06-18-2007, 09:16 AM

Pillow Line!

06-04-2007, 11:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
PizzaFarno Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Member # 77245 Location: Missouri Posts: 386	Fordyce-Harder then the rubi? hey i was wondering if fordyce was truely harder then the rubicon, because the pictures look like so. Im a little scared when i go on the sierra trek this year. my jeep can make the rubicon pretty easily. Would it be able to make it w/o breaking things? heres a quik rundown cj-7, model 20 1 pieced detroit locked, dana 30 cromo shafts w/ 44 outers and lockright locked. Spring under -has no ubold flip kit on so there is horrible clearence. dana 300 6:1 and bla bla bla-one last thing it has 35's and 5.5 lift Last edited by PizzaFarno; 06-04-2007 at 12:02 PM.

06-04-2007, 12:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tinman Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21358 Location: Georgetown, Ca Posts: 1,499	Don't even worry about it. During Trek the trail is so stacked you can practically drive a Civic up it. __________________ Bret Preble President Friends of Fordyce Friends of Fordyce KJ6NQN BLUE RIBBON COALITION, CALIFORNIA 4WD ASSOCIATION, AMA LIFE MEMBER

06-07-2007, 08:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
mountainhead Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 64569 Location: Grass Valley, CA Posts: 182	It is just as much fun as then con, a little less crowded (except for sierra trek). If you can do the con then you can do fordyce creek. The only big diffrence (IMHO) is there are no real bypass routes. Don't be intimidated, Sierra Trek is the time to do it for the first time. You will have a blast! __________________ '93 YJ 102" WB, SOA, CroMo 10-Bolt (30 Spline) & CroMo 12-Bolt (Spool), 4.88's, Crossover High Steer, SM420, Twin-Stick 300, 37's, 8274 '78 FJ40 Mostly Stock... for now... [url=http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6369383&posted=1#post6369383] My YJ Build[/url]

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06-08-2007, 03:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
colonelmustard Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 78813 Location: san rafael Posts: 484	imho its much harder. This is because the rocks are looser and move around more (wheel spin- catch traction- KAAAAPOWWWW!) and the deep water crossing (not a factor during the Trek). But definately not as crowded as the 'con, which is a HUGE plus. __________________ MCCARTHY MOTORSPORTS 415

06-04-2007, 12:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
ANTHONYFARLEY Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Member # 92676 Location: SANTA ROSA CA. Posts: 6	Your Rig Sounds Very Capable To Me! I Dont Know Your Wheelin Exp. Is But If You Say You Have Made It Tro The Con Easily Then You Will Be Fine I Have Seen Guys Take A Stock Toyota Tro Just Cut Fenders And Big Tires It Has A Lot To Do With Driver Skills! Relax And Youll Be Fine Its A Great Trail!

06-04-2007, 01:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
PizzaFarno Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Member # 77245 Location: Missouri Posts: 386	thanks for the comments guys and for the reassurance to go.

06-08-2007, 10:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
Clifcattankass Never Gunna Wheel Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40472 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA Posts: 1,505	its a cake walk, but the nice thing is you can make it as hard as you want

06-13-2007, 12:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
fordori Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Member # 89600 Location: Sac(Sacramento) Posts: 710	. rubicon is harder if you dont go around the hard spots. serria trek has its spots but you can go around most of them to. __________________ [URL="http://www.myspace.com/jasondonnel"]http://www.myspace.com/jasondonnel[/URL]

06-14-2007, 03:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
toy4crawlin Fab Fanatic & RC Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5342 Location: Mid CA West Bay Area next to NASA Jet dudes! 3hrs to RUBICON!! Posts: 1,974	to Anwser your question, Yes Fordyce is more technical than Rubicon. More fun and challenging hills. Sierra trek was a bit disapointing for me last year It's crazy to drive 1.5 hours past the trail head to camp, then get up at 3am to drive 1.5 hours back to trails head for a 6am meet. There were some fun spots,(river crossings) and I saw a lot of breakage, I had to winch a Defender 90 out of the creek because he broke his rear It was a cake walk for me though, never had to back up ot try a different route Front Arb, used sometimes on the winchhills Rear locker Dual Case 90:1 and 206:1 worn 36's TSL's NO ProblemO Do it in a __________________ 1/8 Scale Rock Crawler DIG MP3 Player, PICS on Pirate RC Rock Crawler Tube buggy with DIG , MP3 stereo 85 4Runner 92 4runner YouTube - Street Luge Cam Ohio Rian

06-15-2007, 09:04 AM	#16 (permalink)
PizzaFarno Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Member # 77245 Location: Missouri Posts: 386	damn, are you fawkin serious? 3 am?? I just signed up yesterday Last edited by Tinman; 06-15-2007 at 06:18 PM.

06-17-2007, 06:47 PM	#21 (permalink)
OOP'S Wicked Raciest ! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 30 Location: Roseville, CA,To many Yuppies, Not enough Hippies Posts: 17,109	You mean like this? 4-dice is a harder trail the the Con even at the Trek. The biggest reason is the trail is not groomed like the do for the J.J. on the Con. Attached Images __________________ David & Theresa, Roseville, CA, Remember: Amateurs ... Built the ark. Professionals ... Built the Titanic http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com/ http://www.marlincrawler.com/ http://www.12voltguy.com/

06-18-2007, 09:03 AM	#24 (permalink)
Brandon Registered User Join Date: Mar 1975 Member # 6 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 13,666	In my opinion if your not geared low Fordyce is harder, if you are it is easier. More small rocks, and rubicon seems to have more open spaces. I was geared before going on fordyce so it has never seemed hard to me, not even any of the "winch" hills or the so called waterfall thing next to the narrow spot - whatever it is called. __________________ This Space for rent!

06-18-2007, 09:16 AM	#25 (permalink)
Tinman Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21358 Location: Georgetown, Ca Posts: 1,499	Pillow Line! __________________ Bret Preble President Friends of Fordyce Friends of Fordyce KJ6NQN BLUE RIBBON COALITION, CALIFORNIA 4WD ASSOCIATION, AMA LIFE MEMBER

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