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Old 09-13-2011, 08:47 AM   #26 (permalink)
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As a note, I couldn't believe the lack of QC in those Centerline I.C.E. wheels when John showed me the voids.

Shock mounts turned out nice, I like the full plate wrap on the rear tube.
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Wow.....do you think...other than the 100% cool factor on this that you saved anything over just dropping an 80 series drivetrain into a tube chassis?

I love it...glad you did it.....but wow.....that is a LOT of fabrication to work around what is left of the 80.
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Wow.....do you think...other than the 100% cool factor on this that you saved anything over just dropping an 80 series drivetrain into a tube chassis?

I love it...glad you did it.....but wow.....that is a LOT of fabrication to work around what is left of the 80.
Saved anything? You mean in terms of time/money? Almost certainly not. Would have been a lot easier to just build a custom chassis from scratch.
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Saved anything? You mean in terms of time/money? Almost certainly not. Would have been a lot easier to just build a custom chassis from scratch.
I would like to think there is a value in having a fully functional dash with heat, GPS built in and full factory gauges. Also saves on wiring and suspension design, steering, brakes ect. All that stuff really adds up in the end!
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As a note, I couldn't believe the lack of QC in those Centerline I.C.E. wheels when John showed me the voids.

Shock mounts turned out nice, I like the full plate wrap on the rear tube.


I agree about the wheels. What looked like a solid design for a bead lock was not only disappointing in construction but also did not provide positive locking on the inner ring as there marketing had suggested. Pretty much a fail in our eyes.
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I would like to think there is a value in having a fully functional dash with heat, GPS built in and full factory gauges. Also saves on wiring and suspension design, steering, brakes ect. All that stuff really adds up in the end!
For sure. It ALL ads up. Love the project. Don't get me wrong.
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Wow.....do you think...other than the 100% cool factor on this that you saved anything over just dropping an 80 series drivetrain into a tube chassis?

I love it...glad you did it.....but wow.....that is a LOT of fabrication to work around what is left of the 80.
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:43 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Finished the lower shock mounts this morning.





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Old 09-13-2011, 06:48 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Then moved on to the front suspension. Tried using a forklift to check clearances, but that was a total failure. The stock radius arms don't allow for much articulation at all! We're going to have to do something about that...



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I love the build, but man those front fenders look like crap imo.
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I love the build, but man those front fenders look like crap imo.
Fair enough. Kinda like 'em myself. Think they complement the lines of the rest of the chassis, especially the rear fenders. What do the rest of you guys think?
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After the forklift failed to show us how this thing was going to flex, we resorted to forced articulation. Chained the axle to the pass-side framerail and used a hi-lift to force this thing to twist a little bit further than it wanted to under it's own weight. Checked clearances, cut a little bit further into the firewall, and figured out where the vertical A-pillar support support tubes should go. Things are a bit tighter on the driver's-side, so some of those tubes are going to have to be asymmetrical and/or have bends in them.













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Fair enough. Kinda like 'em myself. Think they complement the lines of the rest of the chassis, especially the rear fenders. What do the rest of you guys think?
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hah - maybe I should start a poll.
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This is one of the best tech threads I have seen - thanks for sharing. Nice to see a totally different take on cage layout. Not a fan of the fenders though.
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Pull one of the bolts out of the radius arms. It will flex much easier.
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Pull one of the bolts out of the radius arms. It will flex much easier.
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Wow, I guess instead of asking what people think, you shoulda just said "hold my beer whatch'iss" and told'em to stufu. I suppose I was blinded by the shear magnatude of the project to give a rats ass about the fender lines. I personally know this "sumbitchllwheel"
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What is important is....does the CUSTOMER like the fenders. If so, who gives a rat's ass what Pirate thinks?
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Ah, no hard feelings guys. I posted, and I asked.
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That chassis is so nice. There is a simplistic beauty about such a well thought out, clean, triangulated chassis like this one. Although this buggy looks very good, it may benefit from some rolled tube up front around the fenders so the car isn't so boxy around the tires.

And the front radius arms on the 80 leave much to be desired. those arms are so stiff. They are the only thing keeping the 80 from its true trail potential. The fabulous rear of the 80 does all the work. The 3 link i did to the front of my 80 changed the truck completely. Convince the owner to 3 link it up front. You have the skills to work around the tierod that sits behind the front axle-no need to move the tie-rod to the front. just needs some creative bracketry
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That chassis is so nice. There is a simplistic beauty about such a well thought out, clean, triangulated chassis like this one. Although this buggy looks very good, it may benefit from some rolled tube up front around the fenders so the car isn't so boxy around the tires.

And the front radius arms on the 80 leave much to be desired. those arms are so stiff. They are the only thing keeping the 80 from its true trail potential. The fabulous rear of the 80 does all the work. The 3 link i did to the front of my 80 changed the truck completely. Convince the owner to 3 link it up front. You have the skills to work around the tierod that sits behind the front axle-no need to move the tie-rod to the front. just needs some creative bracketry
Thanks. And that's exactly what I've been thinking about the front fenders/wheelwells. Reading up on the radius arms right now. Looks like there might be just enough room to fit an upper link on the pass-side if we re-make the pass-side motor-mount. maybe.
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