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Old 01-23-2012, 09:59 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I like raceline. they are a top notch part of this community.

Im not a wheel guru. i told them what i needed to accomplish and this is the solution i was given. I agreed to it. Im sure everything will work out fine.
I think it's lame that...

1) You requested the wheels be built this way
2) Raceline told you that they'd be a bitch to mount
3) You botched the install job
4) Started a bitch thread on Pirate including the obligatory, half truth, inflammatory title
5) Expect your money back when it all goes exactly like the vendor said it would

You're building a cutting edge car, shit is going to go wrong. This industry is too small to be blasting the vendors that are willing to try something out of the box for a customer even though conventional wisdom says it's not the right solution.

Sorry if I offend

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I'd say the wheels are right but the tires look like shit.
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:19 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Get one of those big ass propane torches that kidjethro heated his TSLs up with before groovin them. I have seen them for starting big fires and stuff.

Heat that tire up so it is nice and soft and then give it a go.

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Old 01-23-2012, 11:07 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I think it's lame that...

1) You requested the wheels be built this way
2) Raceline told you that they'd be a bitch to mount
3) You botched the install job
4) Started a bitch thread on Pirate including the obligatory, half truth, inflammatory title
5) Expect your money back when it all goes exactly like the vendor said it would

You're building a cutting edge car, shit is going to go wrong. This industry is too small to be blasting the vendors that are willing to try something out of the box for a customer even though conventional wisdom says it's not the right solution.

Sorry if I offend

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You need to calm down
No offense...kinda.

This is still tech
I just want a set of deepset 18" beadlocks that have tires on them so I can put them on my race car and get on with my build.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:10 PM   #55 (permalink)
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The bead of a tire is actually a steel cable that does not stretch. The only give is a very small amount of squish of the rubber around that cable. The cable is necessary to assure that the tire stays on the rim.
Since the tire bead (steel cable) can't stretch there has to be a way for the bead to go over the larger diameter rim. That's why the recessed area (usually toward the pretty side) is there; a smaller diameter that allows one side of the bead to drop in toward the wheel center while the opposite side slips out and over the larger diameter rim. In your case the recessed area is too far from the beadlock side so the tire will never shift enough to slip pver the rim edge. You might get it on but the tire and/or rim will be trashed.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:27 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Its a reverse mount wheel. You need to mount it the opposite way you've been trying to. That's the only way your going to get it. And you'll just have to pull the top bead over to get the beadlock on. And I can already tell you raceline will not take those back. There is a sticker on the wheel or box that says "test fit wheel first, wheels that have been mounted will not be returned. " your best bet will be to take it to a mom and pop tire store and see if they will mount it for you. Discount won't mount them and im almost positive none of the other big name tire stores will either. Good luck.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:47 PM   #57 (permalink)
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The bead of a tire is actually a steel cable that does not stretch. The only give is a very small amount of squish of the rubber around that cable. The cable is necessary to assure that the tire stays on the rim.
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Its a reverse mount wheel. You need to mount it the opposite way you've been trying to.
Perhaps it either of you had taken the time to read through the thread instead of just flipping to the last page and clicking reply you would know that you are bringing nothing new to the table.


Op: could be a stretch, but what about getting a tire mounted from the back as you had it, then use a combination of low heat (from a propane torch or like) to the bead, and a pile of ice (or dry ice) in the face of the wheel. Then try to pull the outer bead over.
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Old 01-24-2012, 05:25 AM   #58 (permalink)
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I'd bet you need to take more off the diameter of the beadlock side and mount them from back to front over the bead lock lip. Sure looks like a total PITA and I don't envy you one bit.
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Old 01-24-2012, 05:34 AM   #59 (permalink)
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I think it's lame that...

1) You requested the wheels be built this way
2) Raceline told you that they'd be a bitch to mount
3) You botched the install job
4) Started a bitch thread on Pirate including the obligatory, half truth, inflammatory title
5) Expect your money back when it all goes exactly like the vendor said it would

You're building a cutting edge car, shit is going to go wrong. This industry is too small to be blasting the vendors that are willing to try something out of the box for a customer even though conventional wisdom says it's not the right solution.

Sorry if I offend

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Old 01-24-2012, 07:44 AM   #60 (permalink)
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It can be done. First, I would call Raceline and ask them to have all the tires and wheels picked up, taken to their place, have them mounted and shipped back to you, at their cost. I suspect they would be happy to do it rather than read about it here.

or, 2nd, you need to have the inside flange cut down to about .25" to .375". trust me, the beadlock function will still work and you'll be able to get the tire on. If you've ever seen an old Eaton beadlock, they only had about 1/8" of flange behind the bead.

After cutting down the od of the inside flange, I always recomend mounting the tire from the front as it allows you to attack it at an angle to start. Lots of soap behind the inside flange so it wont fight you as much. Small tire irons only. Good Luck.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:37 AM   #61 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=rocklobster87;13910614]Perhaps it either of you had taken the time to read through the thread instead of just flipping to the last page and clicking reply you would know that you are bringing nothing new to the table.


Just pointing out that a bead (steel cable) does not stretch. Noticed from the pics that the wheel diameter inside the lip is larger than the shoulder that the bead rests against. No stretch + No room = No go.
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I think it's lame that...

1) You requested the wheels be built this way
2) Raceline told you that they'd be a bitch to mount
3) You botched the install job
4) Started a bitch thread on Pirate including the obligatory, half truth, inflammatory title
5) Expect your money back when it all goes exactly like the vendor said it would

You're building a cutting edge car, shit is going to go wrong. This industry is too small to be blasting the vendors that are willing to try something out of the box for a customer even though conventional wisdom says it's not the right solution.

Sorry if I offend

kinda

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I hate it when people custom order something and are told form the beginning, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A MFT TRYING TO MOUTH THEM!!!!!!

Then your BBBEEEPPPP BBBEEEEPPPP comes on here and tries to make the Vendor look bad

what a pud
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Old 01-24-2012, 01:54 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Shoulda just had Trailready do your wheels. I'd be shocked if they couldn't have provided a high quality AND 'user-friendly' set-up.

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Should have just bought double beadlocks. Don't understand shelling out huge $$$$ for the equivilant of a weld on ring.
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I hate it when people custom order something and are told form the beginning, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A MFT TRYING TO MOUTH THEM!!!!!!

Then your BBBEEEPPPP BBBEEEEPPPP comes on here and tries to make the Vendor look bad

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Do you work at Raceline? Because it didn't go like that.
Are you the guy I spoke with when I ordered these wheels?
Are you the guy who took all the money?
And are you the guy I have been talking to on multiple occasions?
Then what are you talking about?

Today Raceline told me they would turn the lip down. Thanks
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Do you work at Raceline? Because it didn't go like that.
Are you the guy I spoke with when I ordered these wheels?
Are you the guy who took all the money?
And are you the guy I have been talking to on multiple occasions?
Then what are you talking about?

Today Raceline told me they would turn the lip down. Thanks
I'm about 97% sure he's the guy who lies on the Internet.
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Do you work at Raceline? Because it didn't go like that.
Are you the guy I spoke with when I ordered these wheels?
Are you the guy who took all the money?
And are you the guy I have been talking to on multiple occasions?
Then what are you talking about?

Today Raceline told me they would turn the lip down. Thanks
But you're not really helping anyone here. Thats why I asked if they told you up front that they where reverse drop center wheels. It would be handy for people to know if this was something that you where warned about, and where just too excited about balling wheels to think about, or if they surprised you with it when you went to mount them.
Good to hear they're gonna help you out though.
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But you're not really helping anyone here. Thats why I asked if they told you up front that they where reverse drop center wheels. It would be handy for people to know if this was something that you where warned about, and where just too excited about balling wheels to think about, or if they surprised you with it when you went to mount them.
Good to hear they're gonna help you out though.
The impression I got when i wrote the check was that the wheels would be a little difficult to mount but not a big deal. The surprise came when the people I trust couldn't mount the wheels. How many times can I "try again"? Thats as far as i want to go with this thought. I just want my wheels to work. This thread served its purpose.
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Funny that Raceline built the wheels and knew they'd be a PITA and never took th elip off the wheel before shipping them
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[Bones] Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a wheel jockey [/Bones]


I think there's a strong case of this in this thread...... just saying
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Get one of those big ass propane torches that kidjethro heated his TSLs up with before groovin them. I have seen them for starting big fires and stuff.

Heat that tire up so it is nice and soft and then give it a go.

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This, we would lay tires in the driveway in the summer.

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The impression I got when i wrote the check was that the wheels would be a little difficult to mount but not a big deal. The surprise came when the people I trust couldn't mount the wheels. How many times can I "try again"? Thats as far as i want to go with this thought. I just want my wheels to work. This thread served its purpose.
Phone calls to the company work as well instead of public ridicule on a great company that supports our sport. Funny thing is I had a set of 2" back spaced reverse drop wheels from them as well, but unlike you I got my tires mounted with good old hard work and a lot of dawn dish soap.

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This, we would lay tires in the driveway in the summer.

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I second that. Apparently you've never used tire irons on a dirt bike tire in the winter. Yeah I done it a few times. It sucks. I'd take the tires in the house and heat um up with the blow dryer. But that wasnt so fun so then I discovered if I did a funny car burnout till I thought it was gonna pop. The tire would come off like butter after it was crazy hot.
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No your not that lucky,
if you would have called me i would have told you to go pound sand when you called the first time.

Then would have been on the floor laughing my butt off when you had the balls to call back crying that you could not mount them.

And sorry im not greg m. He would not even waist his time with your lame ass
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