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Old 07-23-2012, 04:18 PM   #401 (permalink)
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Do you have the ability to do that with a fully built, wet, peopled, rig?
I can but it's a lot of work

When you draw a part, you just select the material you are making it out of to give it the correct density and that gives you the weight, which is mostly done for all the parts I designed and make. The hard part is all the components like engine, trans, T-case, axles. The engine and trans are probably 1000 separate parts, so you would have to go thru each part, and select the appropriate material, plus its missing the engine internals, crank, cam piston, rods etc.

I drew the axles and they are very rough, what I do sometimes is weigh a real part, then by trial and error give the model a density that will give you the part weight that you want. Problem is the center of mass will be off slightly.
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:20 PM   #402 (permalink)
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Did I read that screen capture correctly?

666lbs?
Yeah, that's why I put 665.99. Its actually a few pounds more, I dont have the splice tube in there, that will add a few more pounds.
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Not yet, who makes a descent one 54" wide?
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I've always heard great things about Twisted Customs' front clips and I believe they all come in a 54" wide version. They just redid their site and it looks like the pics are missing still.

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Narrowed Fiberglass CJ hood, with frenched fenders. Made to fit our fiberglass grill and cowl. May be used with or without the cowl. Hood is 54" wide at the rear, 34" wide at the front and 39.5" long. Matching fiberglass grill included.


I think this is the most common front clip I've seen on buggies.
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Narrowed, pie-cut, and shortened hood/cowl/grill with frenched fenders. This combo is 54" wide at the rear, 34.5" wide at the front, and 41.5" long. The individual louvers are still there, not just one raised section. The hood and cowl are now molded as one piece to make mounting easier. They can be cut apart or used together.


The WJ is my favorite.
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:08 AM   #404 (permalink)
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Getting the floor and firewall fitted. This is all .080 aluminum, all Laser cut and CNC formed. It bolts together and you weld some tabs to the chassis tubes. I added an extra piece for the Atlas Shifter, Im going to revise the trans tunnel to not taper it front to back so you wont have to do that, just simply cut a hole for the shifters.

There is a center piece between the seats that welds in, the seat belts can attach to that and your shifter,cutting brakes or what ever.
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:14 AM   #405 (permalink)
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Here you can see the the floor panels have a flange on the side that the body panels mount to.

Also some pics of the sweet seats I got from PRP with my logo
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The WJ is my favorite.
The WJ hood will fit a 49in OD dash bar, the nose tube would be 42in from the dash bar.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:16 AM   #407 (permalink)
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The sheetmetal looks awesome Drew! This buggy in kit form is the coolest idea to come out in a long time.
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Drew,

It really looks good. Is the orbital going to reside in outside or inside the firewall? The reason I ask is Tech likes the hoses outside of the firewall or shielded.

Is there a way to adjust the seat as a couple of people will be driving and I'm short!

Oil and trans cooler possible locations?
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:33 PM   #411 (permalink)
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Drew,

It really looks good. Is the orbital going to reside in outside or inside the firewall? The reason I ask is Tech likes the hoses outside of the firewall or shielded.

Is there a way to adjust the seat as a couple of people will be driving and I'm short!

Oil and trans cooler possible locations?
I plan to put it in front of the firewall, for that reason

The seats have multiple mounting positions, but at this point you would have to unbolt and move the seat.
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I can but it's a lot of work

When you draw a part, you just select the material you are making it out of to give it the correct density and that gives you the weight, which is mostly done for all the parts I designed and make. The hard part is all the components like engine, trans, T-case, axles. The engine and trans are probably 1000 separate parts, so you would have to go thru each part, and select the appropriate material, plus its missing the engine internals, crank, cam piston, rods etc.

I drew the axles and they are very rough, what I do sometimes is weigh a real part, then by trial and error give the model a density that will give you the part weight that you want. Problem is the center of mass will be off slightly.
Haven't ever had a reason to mess around too much with weights, but would think there ought to be a way that you could just manually specify the weight for any given component or assembly. Is there really no way to do that?
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Its very easy, changed my life when I figured this one out

Just open the mass properties Tools>Mass Properties(or hoteky it!)
Then at the top there are three check boxes, the third one down says "Assigned mass properties". Check that box, then you can enter your own weight value and define your COG by X,Y, & Z.

This also works for assemblies as well as single parts. Hope this helps.
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:26 AM   #414 (permalink)
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Its very easy, changed my life when I figured this one out

Just open the mass properties Tools>Mass Properties(or hoteky it!)
Then at the top there are three check boxes, the third one down says "Assigned mass properties". Check that box, then you can enter your own weight value and define your COG by X,Y, & Z.

This also works for assemblies as well as single parts. Hope this helps.
Good to know, thanks for the tip
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Its very easy, changed my life when I figured this one out

Just open the mass properties Tools>Mass Properties(or hoteky it!)
Then at the top there are three check boxes, the third one down says "Assigned mass properties". Check that box, then you can enter your own weight value and define your COG by X,Y, & Z.

This also works for assemblies as well as single parts. Hope this helps.
Just to note, if any part of your assembly has assigned mass properties, you can't use SolidWorks to determine the inertia of the assembly. I'm not sure if that's a tool you use when designing a chassis, but it caused me more than a few minutes of headscratching. You will still be able to find the mass and center of mass of the assembly, just not the inertia.
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I don't know how I missed this thread.

You have some really nice designing and fabrication skills

You have just a tad bit more detail in your design than mine or a lot more.

I've always wanted to start a chassis shop. Still long ways away.

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Awesome product! Gives a garage hack like myself hope that I can one day have a cool, working buggy. If I ever built my own it'd look like a cobbled together pile of crap!

Quick question... Is there a completed one yet, WITH SKINS? Either 2 or 4 seater?
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^ I agree, I'm totally interested in picking one of these up.

Quick question though, on the 4 seater how well would a 5.0, AOD, Atlas combo fit? And is the fuel tank area large enough for a propane tank or two?
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^ I agree, I'm totally interested in picking one of these up.

Quick question though, on the 4 seater how well would a 5.0, AOD, Atlas combo fit? And is the fuel tank area large enough for a propane tank or two?
That powertrain combo should fit fine. The GM truck motors and 6L80 Trans that I designed it around are fairly large, so almost any thing will fit.
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Spent the day working on the power steering pump bracket. I needed to relocate the pump up to clear the upper links. This is what I've come up with so far. Alternator is in the stock location, mounts a CBR/1800 pump from PSC up and out a bit. Its all 1/4" Laser cut steel and spacers. By my rough measurements it also retains the stock belt. Might have to fine tune it by moving the idlers a bit.
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Awesome work, looking forward to maybe working on your chassis here in Australia.



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If your thinking about getting one of these let me know, i really like the look of them but don't have any idea how to import one.
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If your thinking about getting one of these let me know, i really like the look of them but don't have any idea how to import one.
Brooksy and James: I am working with Superior Engineering over there to import these chassis kits. If you're interested, contact them to let them know you're interested.
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Any chance you'll be doing a 302 version of the engine mount cradle?

Also, I looked over the website to try and figure out dimensions but couldn't quit figure it out. Will a 40# forklift propane tank fit in the area where your fuel cell goes?
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