14 bolt R&P install NOW - need help

[OnTheRocks]

Just heated up my Thick 5.38 ring to install on 4.11 down carrier and think I have the wrong ring gear bolts. I'm holding off on my expletive laced rant until I know for sure, but do the thick gears require the longer 2.1" ring bolts or the standard 1.8" for the smaller gear set/carrier. I ordered new 1.8 bolts from Randy's and I'll be a Mother F if I needed the longer ones. Need this POS together by the weekend. Anybody?

[TPD_53]

I never thought about needing longer bolts, but I recenty set up thick cut 5.38s on arbs (f/r) and the stock length bolts worked fine. I didn't heat the ring gear, just eased it on with a dead blow. Maybe someone else can chime in if maybe I did mine wrong?!?!

[OnTheRocks]

Originally Posted by TPD_53

I never thought about needing longer bolts, but I recenty set up thick cut 5.38s on arbs (f/r) and the stock length bolts worked fine. I didn't heat the ring gear, just eased it on with a dead blow. Maybe someone else can chime in if maybe I did mine wrong?!?!

I'm liking where this is going...

[Mh4Runner]

In my experience, the longer bolts are for the 4.56 and up carrier. The 4.10 and down carrier uses the short bolts.

You have heated the ring gear, but is it flush with the flange? Are you asking about longer bolts to draw it on the carrier? Or do the bolts you have not seem long enough even with the gear flush against the flange? Are you sure it is a 4.10 and down carrier?

[jpcrawleram]

2x on the longer bolts with the 4.56up

Also double checking your not pulling thd gear up on the face.

Lastly they are 1/2 -20 grade 8 bolts you can buy at any parts store for cheap enough it wont hurt your weekend

good luck

[rockyota83]

when i put my first set of thick gears in i had the same question, what i was told is you use the shorter bolts with the thick gears, i ordered new ones but was told there is no problem re using the old ones.

[OnTheRocks]

I'm with you fellas on the shorter bolts for the 4:11 & down carrier. That's why I ordered them from Randy's. However, the dilemma is with the thick gears. Obviously, on the thinner stock ring gear, I can't use the longer bolts as they would bottom out. But these thick 5:38's are deep as fuk and I was curious if I should have used the larger carrier ring bolts as they would surely fit. The heated ring gear is not in the equasion. I should not have even mentioned it. I heated it because the thick mother chucker ring gear was not motivated to get past the carrier lip. Voila! Heater up and it slid right on. I will go with the 1.8 bolts and dare it to come apart. Again, if anybody has used the thick gear with 4.11 & down carrier and think I should use the longer ring bolts, please chime in

[OnTheRocks]

Originally Posted by rockyota83

when i put my first set of thick gears in i had the same question, what i was told is you use the shorter bolts with the thick gears, i ordered new ones but was told there is no problem re using the old ones.

btw...Thanks for the input. I hadn't even realized you answered my question.

[rockyota83]

Originally Posted by OnTheRocks

btw...Thanks for the input. I hadn't even realized you answered my question.

no problem, scott (aka machinewave) sent me this in a pm when asking about the bolts

You dont need other bolts for the thick gear...I can get you new bolts if you want them, but they are not needed...

Thanks...Scott 812-623-3473 machinewave

[Landslide]

Originally Posted by jpcrawleram

Lastly they are 1/2 -20 grade 8 bolts you can buy at any parts store for cheap enough it wont hurt your weekend

good luck

Wouldn't you want the correct bolts that have a shoulder on them in the area that goes through the carrier? I don't think I would want a bolt with threads in this area and shorter common bolts have threads most all the way up the shank. Although I'm not certain on common 1.8" bolts.

[78stepsideUAK10]

I just used the old ones with locktite, didn't even think about longer bolts

[GubNi]

Short bolts will be fine.

[jpcrawleram]

Originally Posted by Landslide

Wouldn't you want the correct bolts that have a shoulder on them in the area that goes through the carrier? I don't think I would want a bolt with threads in this area and shorter common bolts have threads most all the way up the shank. Although I'm not certain on common 1.8" bolts.

Yea correct but in a pinch you can get the longer ones with shoulder and trim them down a bit.

Just a way to get wheeling this weekend type of thing. Il