(I dont know this for FACT) I just read on Facebook, that these "Colossus" tires are all retreads... Maybe true, maybe not. That's just what someone said on the Flex, Rocks & Rollovers Facebook thread. Oh, and they're from Brazil, not Europe. My bad
The Ad above says 37, 38, 40... So maybe there are BIGGer sizes??
Hmmm
BUT.. Yes, agreed. The guys trying to climb those loose dirt fresh eastern woods "Bounty" hills would love this type of tire. They would perform excellent in dirt.
So, I am Brazilian so I can explain a little about that..
Here in Brazil is almost impossible to find tires for extreme off road ( Like Interco or Mickey T. for exemple) , So we could find only "small" ( 33" ~35") carcass from trucks and pick ups .Than a lot of companies used to retread these tires, to get a better performance on our muddy trails. looks strange, but here some people buy brand new tires and retread it in companies like colossus...
A couple amazing facts about Brazilian retread tires :
1- Most of people use then on highway .... I´ve seen a couple guys go over 60 mph in a couple CJ5´s with tehse tires.
2- Here is even harder to find axles bigger than a Dana44, so we got a lot of 19 splines running 37"´s
Tell you're Brazilian home-boy to get his 40" price down to $400 USD per tire and the orders will come flying in... Or better yet, retread some bald 43" SX carcasses!
Reminds me of a Sand tire. I bet they rock in loose material; but woe the day you hit a bit of hardpack. I tried a sand rear tire on my Enduro during a event in the panhandle (Pampa If i remember correctly). They ruled the grass covered dunes; but my next practice weekend in the caliche I stripped every lug off.
the jist of what he said is that they have to get the carcass of the tires to begin with, which is not cheap, and its an expensive and highly taxed ordeal. i dont think there is any way to compete at 1300 per tire. they are NASTY as hell, but not 6500 a set of five nasty. thats more than a 54 TTC claw of stick sx's. i dont see it happening.
So, we offer a warranty for one year to carcass and limited for our tread pattern. Of course that we need to do some analyses in product claimed as you know.
The price is for each tire. Unfortunately we know that is expensive out of Brazil but we have two problems: big size carcass is difficult to buy here (so expensive) and a lot of government taxes on our products.
We starting business oversea now and of course that we know products concurrent. But we are sure that we have a completely different high performance tire and it cost more than others for sure.
We have a very special cold retread process using only new tire as carcass. We bought a new tire and retread it - BFG carcass dot 2013!
Colossus max have:
- wear resistance premium rubber compound
- excellent unidirectional traction
- good for climb or down
- any kind of claw soil
- no high rpm required for clean ir self
- 40mm deep
- Up 20% light weight for tire the same size.
- Real size of carcass – ou 35” is more than 35” .
So, I know is difficult to us show all advantages without a test drive but fell free for ask your doubts. We are learning about your market too.
The tread depth if def almost DOUBLE that of a cut TSL, but looking at the photos above... Those same lugs on a TINY tire are visually gonna look larger, once that same tread was vulcanized into a large tire carcass, those lugs wont look nearly as deep.
I understand the cost, but $6000+ for 4 recaps is silly.
he has to buy tires in the US and have them shipped to Brazil, then modify them, then ship them back to North America. you thought that would be cheap?
there is an opportunity here. where is the cap made? can you buy the cap? plenty of tire recapping outfits in north america, and plenty of casings, but I have never seen a cool cap like that
They need to buy brand new tires to take off all te rubber and retread it.. the problem is : A 37~38" tire in Brazil is over U$$ 600... We have the greatest taxes in the world
Problem n. 2 : our laws do not allow anybody to buy used tires from other countries... So, no chance to get some bald 42/43" and retread it.... I´m not sure, but as I remember, to import a new tire, you need to give a propper end to a old one.
This kind of retread is called " hot", because they use a couple blocks of rubber as a cap and vulcanizate it.... ( I´m not sure if colossus do they tire like this) ... Nowadays we have ' cold" retread, like used on trucks , a good exemple are Vipal Ones :
- wear resistance premium rubber compound
- excellent unidirectional traction
- good for climb or down
- any kind of claw soil "Clay Soil"
- no high rpm required for clean ir self
- 40mm deep
- Up 20% light weight for tire the same size.
- Real size of carcass – ou 35” is more than 35” .
Don't even get these around rocks. Those lugs will depart faster than a bus load of Nuns over the edge of a switchback in Mexico..
Hi guys, yesterday I went trail riding with some members of South Florida Jeep Club and one of the guys had them on his TJ. They appeared to be about a 35" tire im guessing and were very nasty looking. He said they are caps on a BFG tire. He didn't say what he paid for them but im sure it was steep. He pulled several out of the muck and I was one of them and im on 37's. He had no problems all day. IMO, the lugs are dbl the depth of any ive seen here in the US. He said with the staggering of the lugs the ride is a bit choppy feeling. I would personally put up with that to know I can just cut out across a flag pond like he did. The tires performed flawlessly all day. Now to win the lottery
Hi guys, yesterday I went trail riding with some members of South Florida Jeep Club and one of the guys had them on his TJ. They appeared to be about a 35" tire im guessing and were very nasty looking. He said they are caps on a BFG tire. He didn't say what he paid for them but im sure it was steep. He pulled several out of the muck and I was one of them and im on 37's. He had no problems all day. IMO, the lugs are dbl the depth of any ive seen here in the US. He said with the staggering of the lugs the ride is a bit choppy feeling. I would personally put up with that to know I can just cut out across a flag pond like he did. The tires performed flawlessly all day. Now to win the lottery
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