Home made chain drive Transfer case? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > General Tech > General 4x4 Discussion
Notices

Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-28-2003, 05:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Member # 18610
Location: West Georgia
Posts: 46
Send a message via AIM to Budru
Home made chain drive Transfer case?

Okay so I was looking at the #50 double link stainless chain and sprockets that I had taking up space on my shelf and I got to thinking.. Iv seen some of the guys that run those mud drag race rigs use just the chain and sprockets out of a transfer case so what if I took mine and welded up some sort of skeleton frame to support shafts and bearings and incorporate a skid plate on the bottom? I could just leave it open and squirt some oil on the chain every now and then and it would be super light too. Of course this would be for a trailered trail-only rig but it seems like it would be perfect for that. Light, easily servicable, can make it divorced and with the right sprockets you could have some awesome gearing.
Attached Images
 
Budru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2003, 05:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Member # 18610
Location: West Georgia
Posts: 46
Send a message via AIM to Budru
#2
Attached Images
 
Budru is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 08-28-2003, 05:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Member # 19670
Location: Floyds Knobs, Indiana
Posts: 406
gawd.......how long do I remain a newbie?
__________________
72 Bronco, 4BTA Cummins/W propane, D60's/4 wh steer, 3 link rear, NV4500, , lots of other junk
CumminsBronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2003, 06:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
StinkyFab Racing
 
StinkBug's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Member # 4946
Location: San Diego
Posts: 6,181
can anyone say "Junkyard Wars"? I doubt it would hold up long. Every time i've seen a setup like that it after about 20 feet.

Dallas
__________________
Dallas Ashley
StinkyFab Racing (SFR) - Custom Fabrication
Your Source for: CNC Cutting & Engraving, Cages, Custom Suspension, Complete Vehicle Builds, and more!

Overall Winner, 2012&13 KOH EMC. Gettin it done in a stocker!
Co-Dog #4432-KOH 2011 #88-KOH 2010, Crew Chief - KOH 2009, 2008
StinkBug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2003, 06:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Getsome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Member # 10854
Location: Aurora,Co
Posts: 104
You have 4 post to go newbi. I think the problem would be that any type of rock to stick that got thrown up would hammer it in short order. Maybe some kind of gaurd or cover?
__________________
A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him."
- Sir Winston S. Churchill, 1952
Getsome is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2003, 06:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
Moderhater
 
Halogrinder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Member # 16980
Location: h-town
Posts: 11,538
Quote:
CumminsBronco: gawd.......how long do I remain a newbie?
when you pony up and buy a red star......lol
Halogrinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2003, 06:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
TEX
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Member # 603
Location: Missouri, USA
Posts: 14,207
http://powerproracingproducts.com/categories/63.html





TEX
__________________
www.probog.com
Thanks to:
www.heiseroil.com
Extreme Performance
www.kmelectronics.com
Bear Creek Auto Recyclers
www.svrehorsepower.com
TEX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2003, 07:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
ItsaCJ6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Member # 6340
Location: Back in the woods
Posts: 3,926
Blog Entries: 11
Quote:
Originally posted by TEX
http://powerproracingproducts.com/categories/63.html





TEX
DAMN .... TEX ... 699 and you still have to buy the yokes........OUCH
__________________
Marc

In what appears to have been an understatement, the plant operator described the situation at the Number 4 reactor as "not so good."

Super conversion calculator website

Love and kisses, Zaphod..
ItsaCJ6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2003, 07:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Member # 3804
Location: western ma
Posts: 259
Try it and see how it works. You could make it work but you will spend so much time you could buy an atlas. But I'd do it if I could.
__________________
72 cruiser w/37 IROK's
turbo4runner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2003, 08:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
TEX
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Member # 603
Location: Missouri, USA
Posts: 14,207
Quote:
Originally posted by ItsaCJ6


DAMN .... TEX ... 699 and you still have to buy the yokes........OUCH
Meant to hold up to 2,500 HP


TEX
__________________
www.probog.com
Thanks to:
www.heiseroil.com
Extreme Performance
www.kmelectronics.com
Bear Creek Auto Recyclers
www.svrehorsepower.com
TEX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2003, 10:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Member # 22347
Posts: 55
Hi ...newb here...had to share on this one. I've got one of them mud racing contraptions. 2400# w/Blown Alky 572 ALU Rodeck- 14-71 Hi-helix retro etc, etc.(around 2000hp with a "hot" tuneup. Straight through drive to back but D60 chain to the front. All the experts said it wouldn't work. 7 years now on the same chain and sprockets. Started out with SB chev on NOS to NOS BB to 484 inch Blown Gas BB to the 572. Busted everything else but not the chain setup. I know lots of guys using the "Drop Style" chain drive that drives front and rear from the same shaft. Some of these guys are leaning pretty hard on 3000 hp. We all use 21" wide paddles. I'd never use anything else.
hairy kanary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2003, 06:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
Moderhater
 
Halogrinder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Member # 16980
Location: h-town
Posts: 11,538
Halogrinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2003, 06:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
TEX
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Member # 603
Location: Missouri, USA
Posts: 14,207
Quote:
Originally posted by hairy kanary
Hi ...newb here...had to share on this one. I've got one of them mud racing contraptions. 2400# w/Blown Alky 572 ALU Rodeck- 14-71 Hi-helix retro etc, etc.(around 2000hp with a "hot" tuneup. Straight through drive to back but D60 chain to the front. All the experts said it wouldn't work. 7 years now on the same chain and sprockets. Started out with SB chev on NOS to NOS BB to 484 inch Blown Gas BB to the 572. Busted everything else but not the chain setup. I know lots of guys using the "Drop Style" chain drive that drives front and rear from the same shaft. Some of these guys are leaning pretty hard on 3000 hp. We all use 21" wide paddles. I'd never use anything else.
Where ya race?


TEX
__________________
www.probog.com
Thanks to:
www.heiseroil.com
Extreme Performance
www.kmelectronics.com
Bear Creek Auto Recyclers
www.svrehorsepower.com
TEX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2003, 06:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16664
Location: CA
Posts: 443
Send a message via AIM to pyros46290
id say ditch the t-case idea and maybe hook it up for some kinda PTO unit... like a rear winch or sum crapp like that. is that chain off a dirt bike?
pyros46290 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2003, 11:06 PM   #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Member # 22347
Posts: 55
Hey TEX...we mostly race in Western Canada and sneak down to some in Montana and Washington
hairy kanary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2003, 03:05 AM   #16 (permalink)
TRD
Zeus of the Sluice
 
TRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Member # 8286
Location: Costa Mesa, Ca
Posts: 4,700
hate to burst your creative bubble but #50 chain isn't exactly the strongest. We break it with 10hp (also 10ft/lb) after a 3:1 reduction. Your double roller will be luckey to hold up to 20/20

cool idea though
__________________
-Ryan
TRD is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2003, 06:45 AM   #17 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Member # 22347
Posts: 55
I have to agree.... I've never seen any of the mud guys use #50 chain. We use #60 double or (the guys who are making "real" horsepower) #80 dbl. Some are now using triple 60. This is mud though... I'm sure a rock machine is going to induce a lot of shock load to the chain that we don't. I suppose the only close comparison we have is the big nitrous boys with tranny brakes. Some of these guys are makin 1000+ hp on the motor alone and dump another 1000 hp nitrous into them during their run. They'll often release the T-brake @ 4 or 5000 rpm. You'd never get away with anything like that on rock. Biggest problem I see...when the chain is new, it stretches like crazy. If you don't keep after it and it ever skips on the sprocket.... then it'll break. Nicest thing about it.... gear change in about 20 minutes (on a drop down setup)
hairy kanary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2003, 08:24 AM   #18 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Member # 8824
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 423
with the right materials the chain& sprockets set-up is a great idea, I've looked into this as a cheap way to get a doubler - yeah redneck as hell - for it would be for a trail rig not a rock only comp rig, I think it would work no problem. ......I mean if it works on monster garage it's got to work if you build it right
Jayrockn7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2003, 09:51 AM   #19 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Member # 18610
Location: West Georgia
Posts: 46
Send a message via AIM to Budru
Thanks for the input guys. I was questioning the strength of the double #50 myself, but it was more the idea that I was interested in anyway. I think for as much as we spend on transfer cases you could buy some really stout chain and have a pretty awsome set up for a permenant trail rig. Hmmmm

Has anyone seen a chain driven rail buggy in person?
http://www.chaindriverails.com/
Budru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2003, 10:28 AM   #20 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Brandon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 1975
Member # 6
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 13,665
Send a message via ICQ to Brandon
nuts..
__________________
This Space for rent!
Brandon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2003, 01:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
TEX
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Member # 603
Location: Missouri, USA
Posts: 14,207
Quote:
Originally posted by Budru


Has anyone seen a chain driven rail buggy in person?
Yup, at every single event I've done

www.gumbo4x4.com/g7.mpg


TEX
__________________
www.probog.com
Thanks to:
www.heiseroil.com
Extreme Performance
www.kmelectronics.com
Bear Creek Auto Recyclers
www.svrehorsepower.com
TEX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 07:13 AM   #22 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Member # 53425
Posts: 306
would there be a way to make a sealed cover to enclose this to fill it full of oil, i will be seeing alot of sand.
yfzut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 07:20 AM   #23 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Member # 83920
Location: What day is it?
Posts: 1,865
Quote:
Originally Posted by yfzut View Post
would there be a way to make a sealed cover to enclose this to fill it full of oil, i will be seeing alot of sand.


I'm pretty sure that NP already thought of that.
__________________
This isn't meant to be a flame job, but Jesus, do you guys ever read or search? Do you suppose your question has already been answered somewhere? Look it up for your fuckin self.
dahoyle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 08:57 AM   #24 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Member # 53425
Posts: 306
Quote:
Originally Posted by dahoyle View Post


I'm pretty sure that NP already thought of that.
what model is a single speed that is as short as this setup.

Last edited by yfzut; 09-01-2008 at 09:03 AM.
yfzut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2008, 09:08 AM   #25 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Member # 83920
Location: What day is it?
Posts: 1,865
Quote:
Originally Posted by yfzut View Post
would there be a way to make a sealed cover to enclose this to fill it full of oil, i will be seeing alot of sand.

No way, that would be impossible. Building a case for something is only possible if you are a t-case manufacturer.

Please shut up. Every time you open your mouth, stupidity comes out of it.
__________________
This isn't meant to be a flame job, but Jesus, do you guys ever read or search? Do you suppose your question has already been answered somewhere? Look it up for your fuckin self.
dahoyle is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.