38.5 11 boggers or 37 13? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Pook · 08-27-2001, 03:41 PM

getting ready to make the big purchase (especialy for us canadians ouch there goes the kids college tuition)there for my 4runner locked sas 3 link coils ect going on 8" rims what do you gus think of th 38.5 11s?

[ 08-27-2001: Message edited by: Pook ]

Pook · 08-27-2001, 03:42 PM

done search i know i've seen this topic before but can't find it

stf0412 · 08-27-2001, 04:29 PM

I was thinking about the 37's for my truck. I think the 38's are a bit on the thin side.

Pook · 08-27-2001, 04:36 PM

I was thinking the 11 would be easier in the mud for my truck to cut through the mud ruts cuz the toy just doesn't have the power to turn big wide tires

Monkeyboy · 08-27-2001, 04:36 PM

I have them on my CJ-7. They sure look cool.

I couldn't tell you how they perform because my heep is in pieces.

I highly doubt that they would not perform well on the trail <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

j4x485 · 08-27-2001, 04:38 PM

I would rather have the 38 and not as wide it would cut better through the mud and give some extra clearance you can never have enough. <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

Bigger Valves · 08-27-2001, 04:53 PM

the wider the better.. if it's between the two get the 37's no doubt

Monkeyboy · 08-27-2001, 04:55 PM

I believe that my 11.5" bobbers actually measure 12.5"S

YellowSub1962 · 08-27-2001, 05:11 PM

I would go with the 37x13 in your situation for 2 reasons...

the tread depth on the 37's is shallower (less resistence), which means your smaller engine can turn them easier and faster in mud, probably keeping the tires spinning and on top

and the foot print is wider, letting you stay on top easier in mud and sand

FWIW, I have the 37x13s and noticed a considerable increase in drag from my old 35x12.50s... glad I have the power to keep um spinning

P&T Jeeps · 08-28-2001, 11:15 AM

The 37's are bad ass! Havn't found a thing I dont like about them yet. The 37's would hold a great bead aired down on the 8's you are talking about. A little less height would help w/ your gearing too...

[ 08-28-2001: Message edited by: P&T jeeps ]

DRM · 08-28-2001, 11:28 AM

I friend of mine has had 35x16, 38.5x11, and currently 37x13 boggers - and he swears that the 38.5x11 boggers simple had the best "bite" of any of them.

Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with either one, but I would judge it on looks. If you have stock width axles, I think the 38.5's woudl look goofy. If you have wider axles - the tall skinny's look a whole lot better...

Monkeyboy · 08-28-2001, 11:32 AM

Can't go wrong with the looks of the 38.5"s
<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Look at them and try to tell me that they wont get traction.

Going 4 inches wider on the axles

TEX · 08-28-2001, 01:08 PM

If you're looking for the best bite, there's no doubt the 38.5X11 Bogger is king. Just about the deepest tread you can get & puts good contact pressure down.

If you're worried about power, you might also look into bias-ply R85 Buckshots. They have 28/32's of tread depth & are listed as a 37X13, but actually come in a bit narrower. You'll be able to spin those easier than Boggers, though they won't provide the same bite on ruts or in shallow mud.

TEX

Pook · 08-28-2001, 01:19 PM

Up here in bc we have mostly dirt trails that get real muddy, marshes,loose gravel, lots of hidden logs in mud holes , roots hidden in mud and the odd boulder climb thrown in for good measure. In the fall and winter we run into a lot of snow.
Do you guys find the 11's a bit more tipsy also I've got 5.29 gears and will be installing dual case in the near future.

[ 08-28-2001: Message edited by: Pook ]

Monkeyboy · 08-28-2001, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pook:
Up here in bc we have mostly dirt trails that get real muddy, marshes,loose gravel, lots of hidden logs in mud holes , roots hidden in mud and the odd boulder climb thrown in for good measure. In the fall and winter we run into a lot of snow.
Do you guys find the 11's a bit more tipsy

I doubt I'll find my jeep tipsy with the full width axles <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

j4x485 · 08-28-2001, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Can't go wrong with the looks of the 38.5"s
Look at them and try to tell me that they wont get traction.

I agree they seem to be taller also

Richie · 08-28-2001, 03:21 PM

I think the 37's are sweet. Not too tall and just wide enough for me. They work great on my truck. Now, if I could only solve my Birfield dilema.

Monkeyboy · 08-28-2001, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Richie:
I think the 37's are sweet. Not too tall and just wide enough for me. They work great on my truck. Now, if I could only solve my Birfield dilema.

Theres only one good solution for the birfield broblem <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Bert · 09-05-2001, 08:28 PM

hey thanks for this post.

I am in the same thought process right now.

do i get 37's or 38's?

i think the 37's are the clear winner in my case. on 10" eaton beadlocks.

<IMG SRC="smilies/blender.gif" border="0"> Now if I can afford a air <IMG SRC="smilies/blender.gif" border="0"> too. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

GFI · 03-14-2002, 01:31 AM

Buy the 37's, decide you don't like them, sell em to me half price, and then buy the 38.5's

GFI · 03-14-2002, 01:41 AM

44Runner · 03-14-2002, 04:31 AM

My vote would be for the 38.5. Extra tread depth, and I dig tall skinny tires.

skeetshooter · 03-14-2002, 05:24 AM

what do you mean you cant afford a blender All it takes to make one is an old blender and a air die grinder.

I just got a set of 38.5 boggers I like the way they look and wont be near as hard on axles as the 39.5x18's

GFI · 03-14-2002, 10:52 AM

I agree

Air Ride · 03-14-2002, 12:27 PM

I would go for the ground clearance.
How many times have you herd someone say " if my tires were wider I could of got over that rock"

08-27-2001, 03:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pook wishes he was racing Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3370 Location: BC CANADA Posts: 6,513	38.5 11 boggers or 37 13? getting ready to make the big purchase (especialy for us canadians ouch there goes the kids college tuition)there for my 4runner locked sas 3 link coils ect going on 8" rims what do you gus think of th 38.5 11s? [ 08-27-2001: Message edited by: Pook ] __________________

08-27-2001, 03:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pook wishes he was racing Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3370 Location: BC CANADA Posts: 6,513	done search i know i've seen this topic before but can't find it __________________

08-27-2001, 04:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pook wishes he was racing Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3370 Location: BC CANADA Posts: 6,513	I was thinking the 11 would be easier in the mud for my truck to cut through the mud ruts cuz the toy just doesn't have the power to turn big wide tires __________________

08-27-2001, 04:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Monkeyboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1169 Location: Antioch, CA. Posts: 7,124	I have them on my CJ-7. They sure look cool. I couldn't tell you how they perform because my heep is in pieces. I highly doubt that they would not perform well on the trail <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> __________________ It was even more of a turn on when I found out she was doing me to buy baby formula

08-27-2001, 04:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
j4x485 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2291 Location: Roseville,Ca Posts: 1,136	I would rather have the 38 and not as wide it would cut better through the mud and give some extra clearance you can never have enough. <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> __________________ 1999 F-350 SuperDuty Crew Cab 4" Custom Suspension, 35's on 22's

08-27-2001, 04:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
stf0412 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4385 Location: Raleigh N.C. Posts: 284	I was thinking about the 37's for my truck. I think the 38's are a bit on the thin side.

08-27-2001, 04:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bigger Valves Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3483 Location: NC Posts: 2,279	the wider the better.. if it's between the two get the 37's no doubt __________________ Benny 350/350/205/60/60/linked/locked/lowered

08-27-2001, 04:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
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08-27-2001, 05:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
YellowSub1962 1962 YellowSubmarine Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1494 Location: The Land Of The Free, Thanks To The Brave! Posts: 8,288	<font color="yellow">I would go with the 37x13 in your situation for 2 reasons... the tread depth on the 37's is shallower (less resistence), which means your smaller engine can turn them easier and faster in mud, probably keeping the tires spinning and on top and the foot print is wider, letting you stay on top easier in mud and sand FWIW, I have the 37x13s and noticed a considerable increase in drag from my old 35x12.50s... glad I have the power to keep um spinning</font c> __________________ Peter S. Di Primo PSD Enterprises, LLC - Waterjet, laser, metal forming, CNC work, Fiberglass and Carbon work, patterns and molds. No job too small. Prototyping and small production is our specialty, but we have the network to handle large jobs as well. Email me if you need something cut, bent, formed, milled, machined, etc. Founding Member - VCAS4WDC www.axlesnappers.org Help Fight Global Warming- turn your A/C on high and open all your windows. Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be a convenience store - NOT a government agency!!!!

08-28-2001, 11:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
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08-28-2001, 11:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
DRM Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 8 Location: Spring Hill, TN Posts: 35,027 Blog Entries: 1	I friend of mine has had 35x16, 38.5x11, and currently 37x13 boggers - and he swears that the 38.5x11 boggers simple had the best "bite" of any of them. Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with either one, but I would judge it on looks. If you have stock width axles, I think the 38.5's woudl look goofy. If you have wider axles - the tall skinny's look a whole lot better... __________________ >David > 4x4Spot.com >It only hurts the first* time you agree with me...* >"A little nonsense now and then is cherished by the wisest men."

08-28-2001, 11:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
Monkeyboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1169 Location: Antioch, CA. Posts: 7,124	Can't go wrong with the looks of the 38.5"s <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Look at them and try to tell me that they wont get traction. Going 4 inches wider on the axles __________________ It was even more of a turn on when I found out she was doing me to buy baby formula

08-28-2001, 01:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
TEX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 603 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 14,198	If you're looking for the best bite, there's no doubt the 38.5X11 Bogger is king. Just about the deepest tread you can get & puts good contact pressure down. If you're worried about power, you might also look into bias-ply R85 Buckshots. They have 28/32's of tread depth & are listed as a 37X13, but actually come in a bit narrower. You'll be able to spin those easier than Boggers, though they won't provide the same bite on ruts or in shallow mud. TEX __________________ www.probog.com Thanks to: www.heiseroil.com Extreme Performance www.kmelectronics.com Bear Creek Auto Recyclers www.svrehorsepower.com

08-28-2001, 01:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
Pook wishes he was racing Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3370 Location: BC CANADA Posts: 6,513	Up here in bc we have mostly dirt trails that get real muddy, marshes,loose gravel, lots of hidden logs in mud holes , roots hidden in mud and the odd boulder climb thrown in for good measure. In the fall and winter we run into a lot of snow. Do you guys find the 11's a bit more tipsy also I've got 5.29 gears and will be installing dual case in the near future. [ 08-28-2001: Message edited by: Pook ] __________________

08-28-2001, 03:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
Richie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2831 Location: Los Osos Posts: 273	I think the 37's are sweet. Not too tall and just wide enough for me. They work great on my truck. Now, if I could only solve my Birfield dilema. __________________ Get sloppy with :fj: Pen.

09-05-2001, 08:28 PM	#19 (permalink)
Bert Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 743 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 3,874	hey thanks for this post. I am in the same thought process right now. do i get 37's or 38's? i think the 37's are the clear winner in my case. on 10" eaton beadlocks. <IMG SRC="smilies/blender.gif" border="0"> Now if I can afford a air <IMG SRC="smilies/blender.gif" border="0"> too. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> __________________ 1993 YJ, SOA, locked/locked, beadlocked 35's, chromo's, caged,OBA, sold. Once again. no jeep.

03-14-2002, 01:31 AM	#20 (permalink)
GFI Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5572 Location: SLO,CA Posts: 225	Buy the 37's, decide you don't like them, sell em to me half price, and then buy the 38.5's __________________ [URL=http://www.polyperformance.com]POLYPERFORMANCE[/URL] DMPP!

03-14-2002, 01:41 AM	#21 (permalink)
GFI Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5572 Location: SLO,CA Posts: 225	__________________ [URL=http://www.polyperformance.com]POLYPERFORMANCE[/URL] DMPP!

03-14-2002, 04:31 AM	#22 (permalink)
44Runner Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9095 Location: Mount Pleasant, SC Posts: 2,867	My vote would be for the 38.5. Extra tread depth, and I dig tall skinny tires.

03-14-2002, 05:24 AM	#23 (permalink)
skeetshooter Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4226 Location: Bumfukt, Egypt Posts: 221	what do you mean you cant afford a blender All it takes to make one is an old blender and a air die grinder. I just got a set of 38.5 boggers I like the way they look and wont be near as hard on axles as the 39.5x18's __________________ If Grasshoppers carried machine guns birds wouldn't chase em BAAAAAAAAD MONKEY!!!!!

03-14-2002, 10:52 AM	#24 (permalink)
GFI Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5572 Location: SLO,CA Posts: 225	I agree __________________ [URL=http://www.polyperformance.com]POLYPERFORMANCE[/URL] DMPP!

03-14-2002, 12:27 PM	#25 (permalink)
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