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gunracer · 09-06-2001, 12:35 PM

is there anywhere on the net that has some good info. on these axles,looks like i am getting a set and need to know how they narrowed the front[i remember that you use the rear hub or something like that] damn to many beers. any rockwell gurus out there. mike

Flatty · 09-06-2001, 12:39 PM

From what I remember, you have to take the hubs off of them, and machine them to fit some 15" wheels. The brakes come off, and you get the pinion disc to stop it. Make sure you have enough room under the motor to fit them because you have that pinion that comes out up top. Basically they are strong except for the 16 spline outer stub shaft. all in all goodluck with them.

Dimitri

gunracer · 09-06-2001, 02:53 PM

thanks but i really need more info mike

wngrog · 09-06-2001, 03:02 PM

Mike try this guy: elf_cruiser@hotmail.com

He is in Waco and is putting them on his Cruiser!

High5 · 09-06-2001, 08:55 PM

mike, you gonna put those under your toyota?
and i thought my d60 and 14b were big! i can't wait to see what you are cooking up now.

m715 · 09-07-2001, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gunracer:
<STRONG>thanks but i really need more info mike</STRONG>

Anyone got some picts of a rockwell in the front of a jeep or cruiser...must be getting pretty close to the oil pan

Do a search...there's been some good discussion last month...
http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ubb...&f=10&t=012462 http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ubb...&f=10&t=012821

Shaker · 09-07-2001, 05:06 AM

You might wanna contact "Boyce Equipment" the specialize in these types of military axles. www.boyceequipment.com I got set i'm hanging on for one of those CrazY nights <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">

gunracer · 09-07-2001, 09:33 AM

ok heres what i have a 67 kiaser 6x6 diesel its been set up for a long time. my main question is how to narrow the front and whether it came with a detroit locker in the rear axles. and where i can come up with a set of locking hubs for it. for the front because it will be driven on the street. from time to time. did they come with lockers standard? and where i can get them for it if it doesn't. thanks for all the help so far. brian i am building a tube frame buggy with a 454/t400/205 and now rockwells. but it has to be a 5 seater, got to take the kids. mike

LC Hamma · 09-07-2001, 12:45 PM

If they have "Timken" stamped on the housing
that means ball joint knuckle assy. Rockwell
bought them out & redesigned the knuckles w/
u joints. 16 spline, 1 5/8" dia. shafts, 6.72
up to 7.71 ratios available. It seems like a
lot of folks are goin' up to Rockwells lately
& selling their D60's. Good luck w/the
buildup <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

elf_cruiser · 09-07-2001, 03:30 PM

Gunracer-
The rockwells in your 6x6 probably do not have detroits in them, but Boyce sells them for $695 each. If you really wanna narrow them, all you have to do is flip the front hubs. You pull the knuckles off, take the brake drum, backing plate, etc. off, them bash out the lug studs with a sledge. You will screw up all the lugstuds, and need to buy new ones. I found some at a local diesel parts store, then put in the new lug studs opposite of the way you took them out. The most expensive thing is wheels, and you can run no more than 4incehs of BS with the hubs in. I ordered Stockton beadlocks for mine, the were $1320 for 4 of them. Run coil-overs, so you can mount pinion brakes at both ends. I only have room for 1 in the rear. If the rear axles are dually, then the hubs will be flipped in already, and you just have to take the brakes off. Steering has to be handmade, i built an arm for the knuckle with 1" plate, and got heims, fitting, and DOM tubing from MORE to build a custom draglink. Make sure you design the tube frame to give adequate clearance for the pinion discs, as they will stick up about 4" off the top of the carrier, which is already high enough.

Good Luck with It!!

pcorssmit · 09-07-2001, 03:58 PM

Are you saying that you only have rear brakes, or that you have a disk mounted to the input and the output of the front axle?

Pete

elf_cruiser · 09-07-2001, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Are you saying that you only have rear brakes, or that you have a disk mounted to the input and the output of the front axle?
Pete

Yes I only have rear brakes(in 2 wheel drive)
When it goes into 4wd, the brake force goes through the tcase to the front end...

fcfred · 09-07-2001, 07:50 PM

lets see some secret spy pics elf?

Gozuki · 09-07-2001, 09:53 PM

If anybody is looking for one, search on ebay for "military 2 1/2 ton" rear is now at $125...

dpenney · 09-07-2001, 10:09 PM

Rockwells huh that oughta kickass!! I wanna see this 6x6 though. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

gunracer · 09-08-2001, 11:04 AM

thanks for the info keep it comming. where is the best rigs to find a detroit in. here is a pic of the cream puff mike

09-06-2001, 12:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
gunracer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3091 Location: texas,usa Posts: 311	rockwell 2.5s need info. is there anywhere on the net that has some good info. on these axles,looks like i am getting a set and need to know how they narrowed the front[i remember that you use the rear hub or something like that] damn to many beers. any rockwell gurus out there. mike __________________ zuks and toys

09-06-2001, 12:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Flatty Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 29 Location: Belmont, CA Posts: 6,388	From what I remember, you have to take the hubs off of them, and machine them to fit some 15" wheels. The brakes come off, and you get the pinion disc to stop it. Make sure you have enough room under the motor to fit them because you have that pinion that comes out up top. Basically they are strong except for the 16 spline outer stub shaft. all in all goodluck with them. Dimitri __________________ 1974 FJ40 in the works 2006 F250 crew cab longbed powerstroke for towing duties

09-06-2001, 02:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
gunracer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3091 Location: texas,usa Posts: 311	thanks but i really need more info mike __________________ zuks and toys

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wngrog Moderating Midget Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1154 Location: Canton, MS Posts: 22,056 Blog Entries: 4	Mike try this guy: elf_cruiser@hotmail.com He is in Waco and is putting them on his Cruiser! __________________ Nolen Grogan 1997 FZJ-80 Land Cruiser, 37's 2010 RZR-4 www.cottonlandcruisers.com www.rockmidgetphotography.com USAF Veteran 1988-1998 GOD Bless America

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High5 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1700 Location: TEXAS Posts: 4,308	mike, you gonna put those under your toyota? and i thought my d60 and 14b were big! i can't wait to see what you are cooking up now. __________________ High5 IT'S 1TON O' FUN!

09-07-2001, 05:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
Shaker Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3694 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Posts: 3,584	You might wanna contact "Boyce Equipment" the specialize in these types of military axles. www.boyceequipment.com I got set i'm hanging on for one of those CrazY nights <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> __________________ Need Steering? www.shakerbuilt.com Too Many Projects not enough Time...

09-07-2001, 09:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
gunracer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3091 Location: texas,usa Posts: 311	ok heres what i have a 67 kiaser 6x6 diesel its been set up for a long time. my main question is how to narrow the front and whether it came with a detroit locker in the rear axles. and where i can come up with a set of locking hubs for it. for the front because it will be driven on the street. from time to time. did they come with lockers standard? and where i can get them for it if it doesn't. thanks for all the help so far. brian i am building a tube frame buggy with a 454/t400/205 and now rockwells. but it has to be a 5 seater, got to take the kids. mike __________________ zuks and toys

09-07-2001, 12:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
LC Hamma Rock God Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 137 Location: Dallas,Ga. USA Posts: 1,157	If they have "Timken" stamped on the housing that means ball joint knuckle assy. Rockwell bought them out & redesigned the knuckles w/ u joints. 16 spline, 1 5/8" dia. shafts, 6.72 up to 7.71 ratios available. It seems like a lot of folks are goin' up to Rockwells lately & selling their D60's. Good luck w/the buildup <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> __________________ '72 FJ55 http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=76835 '73 FJ40 http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q...&addtype=local '78 FJ40 '91 Ram W250 5 spd. CTD '93 Ram W350 5 spd. CTD '99 Ram 3500 4X4 5 spd. CTD Welding is like sex, it's all about the penetration!

09-07-2001, 03:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
elf_cruiser Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2857 Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA Posts: 3,387	Gunracer- The rockwells in your 6x6 probably do not have detroits in them, but Boyce sells them for $695 each. If you really wanna narrow them, all you have to do is flip the front hubs. You pull the knuckles off, take the brake drum, backing plate, etc. off, them bash out the lug studs with a sledge. You will screw up all the lugstuds, and need to buy new ones. I found some at a local diesel parts store, then put in the new lug studs opposite of the way you took them out. The most expensive thing is wheels, and you can run no more than 4incehs of BS with the hubs in. I ordered Stockton beadlocks for mine, the were $1320 for 4 of them. Run coil-overs, so you can mount pinion brakes at both ends. I only have room for 1 in the rear. If the rear axles are dually, then the hubs will be flipped in already, and you just have to take the brakes off. Steering has to be handmade, i built an arm for the knuckle with 1" plate, and got heims, fitting, and DOM tubing from MORE to build a custom draglink. Make sure you design the tube frame to give adequate clearance for the pinion discs, as they will stick up about 4" off the top of the carrier, which is already high enough. Good Luck with It!! __________________ BTG Rockcrawlers - Phoenix, AZ Rockwelled FJ40 buggy - slow , 2010 Nissan GTR - fast

09-07-2001, 03:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
pcorssmit Rock God Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4406 Location: Denver Posts: 2,335	Are you saying that you only have rear brakes, or that you have a disk mounted to the input and the output of the front axle? Pete __________________ Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways , beer in hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOW, what a ride."

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fcfred 4xdork Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3263 Location: not portland Posts: 3,162	lets see some secret spy pics elf? __________________ Team Tank old junk, new junk, unfinished junk Live Large-RIP Jason Payne ARMY TRUCK STOLEN!

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dpenney Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4103 Location: Irving, Tx Posts: 2,295	Rockwells huh that oughta kickass!! I wanna see this 6x6 though. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

09-08-2001, 11:04 AM	#16 (permalink)
gunracer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3091 Location: texas,usa Posts: 311	thanks for the info keep it comming. where is the best rigs to find a detroit in. here is a pic of the cream puff mike __________________ zuks and toys

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