well it looks like it's finaly time to order myself a welder, i cant decide what to get. i was decided on a hobart 175 mig, but i went wheeling yesterday, and my buddie that rode with me kinda convinced me that i might want a 110 not 220. well i think that the power of a 220 machine would be nice to have, but the portability of a 110 would be nice too. i think that if i get the 135 then i will regret not having the power of the 175. i noticed that craftsman makes a 150 amp 110 volt mig welder, are they any good?
what are your opinions on the subject?
i plan on using this for general 4x4 related projects, from bumpers to shock towers, and maybe a buggy some day, but i dont have the space/money/skill yet.
BTW 220 is cheaper to run than 110..........Also look at the duty cycle of the welder that you are using...........If it is at 30% at 120 amps..........You wont be welding very long before it shuts off at 120 amps.........But if you get a 200 Amp and it is a 30-40% at 200 amps.......................You can run along time at 120 amps!
i like my hobart 175 and running 220 isnt too expensive (or hard). just get the 175 and tell your buddy to buy his own fawking welder! cause you KNOW thats why he wants you to get the 110V, so he can borrow it :flipoff2:
Definitely get the 220v welder. If you (or your buddy) is worried about it being portable then just go up to Home Depot and buy/make an adapter that will let it plug into a standard Dryer outlet. If you don't you'll regret not spending the extra $100 and having a much more powerful machine.:beer: :usa:
Go 220 fo sho!! Got my Miller 210 at Xmas and I love it!!! Miller, Hobart and Lincoln all make good machines. Check here for outstanding prices and free shipping.
Had a miller 175, that welder was cool, but now I have a Miller 210. DAMN is all Ican say. I love that welder, and would not give it up for anything. TRUE BLUE ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got a Hobart 175 ... love it. was using a borrowed Millermatic 130 before ... the difference between 110 and 220 is definitely worth it. Just used an ESAB 250 the other night ... and it was SWEET ... made my 175 look like a stick welder ...
Portability and 220 can go together ya know. I've got a Lincoln SP-175, it's a great welder and it's the same size as the 110 units. You'll kick yourself (and your buddy) in the ass if you buy the 110 cuz you'll just have to buy a 220 later on. Blue or Red, it doesn't matter, just don't get a hobart.
why do you say this? the hobart 175 is a miller 175 with a few plastic parts instead of metal ones. the metal parts can be put in place of the plastic hobart ones. the only difference between the two to the average fabricator is PRICE- about $150.
btw, theres nothing wrong with the plastic parts. they work great and if they break/wear out, just buy the miller parts.
I just bought a miller matic two weeks ago and I love it. I have welded up to half inch plate with it. They say it is only rated for 3/8 but on level 6 and the wire speed turned up I cut right through a piece of 3/8 plate. welded my 500 wall dom on level 7 and then ground on it for about 15 minutes and never got through the weld. I used to have a 110 welder and it sucked ass. I would not recomend it for anything but maybe shock mounts. When I re-wired it for 220 it would do up to 1/4 inch but it still isnt up to building a buggy with a 14 percent duty cycle. I had it turn itself off due to temp many times.
Go for the 220 no matter what you do.. I just started welding and have a lincoln weldpak 100 and a old school stick that I got from the neighbor. Even the other half blind neighbors can tell the difference by the light of the arc the 220 gives off. Welding thick metal with a 110 is like fucking the dog.. Go 220,, Also if your on a budget stick is the way to go. Rock on and lay some beads.:beer: :beer:
The idea of the 130/150 amp portable welders is good but only as good as the 110 outlet you plug it into. I once had a 110 unit and I had a hard time finding a 30 amp 110 recepticle. Most new house 110 outlets are only 20 amps and the older ones are even less. Check the requirements of the welder you decide to purchase.
I have to agree with most about the 220 welder vs 110. I have a miller 250x and am very happy with it, way more welder than I need, but if some is good more must be better. The duty cycle is a very important consideration also. The 110 welders duty cycle sucks. Get the 175 you mentioned and put a long cord on it with a dryer plug. Everybody has a dryer.
My 02.
Dan
You also get infinite voltage control vs about 4-5 click settings on the Hobart. Not a huge deal but nice for fine tuning and it is another difference.
You also get infinite voltage control vs about 4-5 click settings on the Hobart. Not a huge deal but nice for fine tuning and it is another difference.
my millermatic 210 only has 8 voltage settings and infinate wire control. :flipoff2: i would highly recomend going as big as you can afford. the millermatic 175 is also a sweet machine for not too much $$$.
I got the hobart 175 for xmas and I love it. Don't let the plastic parts scare you - I think there are just two, and like mentioned above - you can replace them w/ miller steel ones if they break.
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