broken 2" ouverson shaft? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Slayer84 · 07-04-2008, 10:21 AM

Has anybody broken one yet?

rfr002 · 07-04-2008, 10:54 AM

The only one I've heard of is on Tim Cameron's rig and it only broke because the spindle broke off.

NOCTURNL · 07-04-2008, 11:26 AM

The joint failed not the shafts. he could have thrown a joint in and been fine. to my knowledge, i have yet to see a failure on the 2" stuff for the 2 1/2's. they are overkill as far as i am concerned, either the chunk will fail or some hard part in the t-case or tranny will give up. we are working on new stronger gearsets with the stock 6:72 ratio and a 4:89 ratio.

Gun Man · 07-04-2008, 11:36 AM

I seem to remember a few TGW guys breaking some 2" OEM's
doing Tug Of War on Hot top with 48"+ tires

iniviate · 07-04-2008, 11:49 AM

There's a mud guy that's broken overson 5 ton rear shafts. (stock size, so i hear)

he's on 66" tires though.

MC · 07-04-2008, 02:22 PM

Randy I have gotten two emails about making a nice 4340+ joint for your shafts. Since we are both local to MN maybe we should come together on this project. I can dedicate some CNC time to a chromo joint but dont really want to do it from a solid. Do you have a forge nearby?

Mopars 4 Life · 07-04-2008, 02:32 PM

If ya watch TGW 5 you will see how Randy tests his parts....IMO you would have to be doing some crazy sheet to break one if he doesn't...

mustange70 · 07-04-2008, 03:30 PM

Nothing is ever truely idiot proof . . . . . .

As there are people in here that could break a steel ball in a rubber room . . . .

that said i haven't seen or heard of anyone breaking a 2" shaft yet, but i have seen 2" shafts break in other axles (i think it was 2", it was out of a way overloaded gravel truck/pup trailer combo in a soft/sticky river bottom)

masonmachines · 07-04-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NOCTURNL

we are working on new stronger gearsets with the stock 6:72 ratio and a 4:89 ratio.

Wow that is cool.

Mopars 4 Life · 07-04-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by masonmachines

Wow that is cool.

Definitely..that has been one of the major setbacks....some regions require wheel speed!!!

dobsogj · 07-04-2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NOCTURNL

The joint failed not the shafts. he could have thrown a joint in and been fine. to my knowledge, i have yet to see a failure on the 2" stuff for the 2 1/2's. they are overkill as far as i am concerned, either the chunk will fail or some hard part in the t-case or tranny will give up. we are working on new stronger gearsets with the stock 6:72 ratio and a 4:89 ratio.

Some 4.89s would be sweet. I have always thought it would be cool to run a rock rear, and a 60 front. You could get the driveshaft clearance and strength in the rear, but not have to worry about clearance around the chunk in the front. When do you plan on having these out? What will be the price range? An aluminum center section would be cool too.

blacksheep10 · 07-05-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dobsogj

Some 4.89s would be sweet. I have always thought it would be cool to run a rock rear, and a 60 front. You could get the driveshaft clearance and strength in the rear, but not have to worry about clearance around the chunk in the front. When do you plan on having these out? What will be the price range? An aluminum center section would be cool too.

rear steer thats actually strong enough, right on

Tim Cameron · 07-05-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NOCTURNL

The joint failed not the shafts. he could have thrown a joint in and been fine. to my knowledge, i have yet to see a failure on the 2" stuff for the 2 1/2's. they are overkill as far as i am concerned, either the chunk will fail or some hard part in the t-case or tranny will give up. we are working on new stronger gearsets with the stock 6:72 ratio and a 4:89 ratio.

All it broke was the joint and the c-clip area off the shaft. The shaft was Good but you would have to weld in the caps

Fool-Injected · 07-07-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NOCTURNL

The joint failed not the shafts. he could have thrown a joint in and been fine. to my knowledge, i have yet to see a failure on the 2" stuff for the 2 1/2's. they are overkill as far as i am concerned, either the chunk will fail or some hard part in the t-case or tranny will give up. we are working on new stronger gearsets with the stock 6:72 ratio and a 4:89 ratio.

Whats the time line on that 4.89 gear set?

NOCTURNL · 07-07-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fool-Injected

Whats the time line on that 4.89 gear set?

We are working on them as we speak. depending on all the empty promises that i keep getting, i am hoping to have some proto's in less than 8 weeks. it seems to be getting harder and harder to get a straight answer out of the steel companies, the forging company and the gear cutters. As far as price, that is something i am working out as i go. i allways try to make this stuff affordable for all, but in reality, some parts just cost to damn much to make.

Mopars 4 Life · 07-07-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NOCTURNL

We are working on them as we speak. depending on all the empty promises that i keep getting, i am hoping to have some proto's in less than 8 weeks. it seems to be getting harder and harder to get a straight answer out of the steel companies, the forging company and the gear cutters. As far as price, that is something i am working out as i go. i allways try to make this stuff affordable for all, but in reality, some parts just cost to damn much to make.

Awesome..hang in there Randy..you da man!!
Brian

Slayer84 · 07-07-2008, 09:32 PM

Is the rumor true that you are working on a lighter rockwell axle or custom axle?

svt150j49 · 07-07-2008, 10:22 PM

4.89s would be wicked for rocks! im sure if they sold a full line up of gear sets for them, dana 60s would be a thing of the past....

XJ_ranger · 07-07-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by svt150j49

4.89s would be wicked for rocks! im sure if they sold a full line up of gear sets for them, dana 60s would be a thing of the past....

something about uptravel makes me think otherwise...

ramsey · 07-07-2008, 11:41 PM

You would have to go on one helluva diet opie.

NOCTURNL · 07-08-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Slayer84

Is the rumor true that you are working on a lighter rockwell axle or custom axle?

Yeah, thats what i am workin on now. should have a few protos of the housings and gearsets soon. i try to keep things quiet because i never seem to get stuff made as quick as i need it. never enough time in the day. i will post up some picts asap.

bigsilly · 07-08-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by svt150j49

4.89s would be wicked for rocks! im sure if they sold a full line up of gear sets for them, dana 60s would be a thing of the past....

That comment makes me chuckle...

94stepsideford · 07-08-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by svt150j49

4.89s would be wicked for rocks! im sure if they sold a full line up of gear sets for them, dana 60s would be a thing of the past....

PSSSSS Adam, go look under your truck. Now HTF would you fit a rockwell under there and keep it out of the oil pan?

I wanted to swap my 60's for rocks in the hulk, but I could barely do it.

dobsogj · 08-10-2008, 11:38 AM

Randy, any updates on the 4.89s, or the other rocks stuff your working on?

85blue4runner · 08-10-2008, 06:57 PM

he was allegedly working on an aluminum housing as well??

07-04-2008, 10:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
Slayer84 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Member # 96321 Location: Litchfield, MN Posts: 316	broken 2" ouverson shaft? Has anybody broken one yet?

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NOCTURNL Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 25532 Location: MILACA, MN Posts: 164	The joint failed not the shafts. he could have thrown a joint in and been fine. to my knowledge, i have yet to see a failure on the 2" stuff for the 2 1/2's. they are overkill as far as i am concerned, either the chunk will fail or some hard part in the t-case or tranny will give up. we are working on new stronger gearsets with the stock 6:72 ratio and a 4:89 ratio. __________________ [FONT=Times New Roman]OEM-ITS NOT JUST STOCK ANYMORE[/FONT] RANDY OUVERSON 320-983-3030 TRYING TO SAVE THE WORLD ONE SHAFT AT A TIME. VISIT US AT [url]WWW.OUVERSONENGINEERING.COM[/url]

07-04-2008, 11:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
Gun Man Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 66854 Location: Northern N.H. Posts: 77	I seem to remember a few TGW guys breaking some 2" OEM's doing Tug Of War on Hot top with 48"+ tires __________________ Trailers Are For Boats.......... Just Drive It!!! Sniper W / 2.5 Rocks in the works

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iniviate Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15354 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 929	There's a mud guy that's broken overson 5 ton rear shafts. (stock size, so i hear) he's on 66" tires though. __________________ 02 S10 - LS1, 4L80, 2.5 tons, 14.9-24 R1's - In Progress. 88 YJ - 350, 1 tons, 40's

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MC Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 21997 Location: Insane CNC machine mfg Posts: 5,271	Randy I have gotten two emails about making a nice 4340+ joint for your shafts. Since we are both local to MN maybe we should come together on this project. I can dedicate some CNC time to a chromo joint but dont really want to do it from a solid. Do you have a forge nearby? __________________ Industrial Quality CNC machines at a Hobby Price! USA Quality is job #1 We build CNC plasma tables, click me .................................................. ......... American Motors Engine HERE!! 1-651-257-7917

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Mopars 4 Life Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Member # 108404 Posts: 162	If ya watch TGW 5 you will see how Randy tests his parts....IMO you would have to be doing some crazy sheet to break one if he doesn't...

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mustange70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41097 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,108	Nothing is ever truely idiot proof . . . . . . As there are people in here that could break a steel ball in a rubber room . . . . that said i haven't seen or heard of anyone breaking a 2" shaft yet, but i have seen 2" shafts break in other axles (i think it was 2", it was out of a way overloaded gravel truck/pup trailer combo in a soft/sticky river bottom) __________________ 90' C350 AKA 4 door 1 ton Bronco 96' Ranger: kings, EMF parts, 800hp SBF

07-07-2008, 09:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
Slayer84 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Member # 96321 Location: Litchfield, MN Posts: 316	Is the rumor true that you are working on a lighter rockwell axle or custom axle?

07-07-2008, 10:22 PM	#18 (permalink)
svt150j49 Damn you chuckie... Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 85316 Location: Redding Posts: 2,937	4.89s would be wicked for rocks! im sure if they sold a full line up of gear sets for them, dana 60s would be a thing of the past.... __________________ 1996 F150 - Supercharged 5.8L, E4OD, Vortech S-trim, PSD Intercooler, 15 psi , 1356, Dana 60, 10.25, 5.13 gears, welded rear diff, 14" Air/Coilovers. Check it out: Build thread: Here The un-named buggy - 2.3L, lotsa tube, and FJ80s.

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ramsey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 36187 Location: shreveport, LA Posts: 120	You would have to go on one helluva diet opie.

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dobsogj Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16561 Location: SOUTH OF HEAVEN Posts: 1,442	Randy, any updates on the 4.89s, or the other rocks stuff your working on? __________________ 4 seat FJ40 buggy. Alum 5.3 - Th400 - Atlas 4 speed - 60/14 - 42" stickies...etc...[url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=660786[/url] Gone but not forgotten: 81 toyota truggy - LT1 - Th400+203+atlas3.0 - 60 / 14 - 42s. [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=520948[/url]. Last edited by dobsogj; 08-10-2008 at 11:38 AM.

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85blue4runner Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 33536 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,142	he was allegedly working on an aluminum housing as well??

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