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Old 08-10-2008, 02:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Albright solenoid

For those that have them, are they the be all end all of the solenoid world? I've noticed there seems to be 2 different models the 90-14452 and the SW202, but I can only find the 90-14452 from here. http://www.expeditionexchange.com/su...ndexmain.shtml

These guys have what appears 14452 as well.
http://www.gigglepin4x4.net/8274/solenoid.htm

Same here
http://www.tigerz11.com.au/

These guys show 2 different one's, but total different part #s.
http://www.devon4x4.com/component/op...owcaticons,yes

Has anyone ordered from any of these places?

People brought them up in this tread but it never went to much more detail on personal experience. /forum/general-4x4-discussion/633653-building-better-winch-pack-opinions-please.html

Travis what did you end up doing?

I'm gathering pieces for a 8274 build this winter and this is my only real debate, keep traditional solenoids or go Albright.

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Old 08-11-2008, 10:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You won't get much help, as most don't have a clue about Albrights.. But your in Luck as I spent months doing the research.. Dont waste your time or money buying from the UK.. Too high an exchange rate.. Get Warn part # 34971. Its called a 12v contactor.. Its made by Albright and looks just like the ones your looking at, but its twice the size and power... Works great on my 8274.. Get ahold of Foothill Motorsports here on the forum, he has the best price, of around 160 US.. You only need 1.
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Could you guys elaborate a little on what this could do for my old 8274?
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Could you guys elaborate a little on what this could do for my old 8274?
It completely replaces the solenoid pack, and should never fail.. All the rage in Europe...
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Albright is a brand. Do a search for contactor and you will find a lot more info.
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Do these work for modern winches like the M8000 or Tmax-12k?
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Do these work for modern winches like the M8000 or Tmax-12k?
They will work for any series wound (3 terminal) winch motor. They are no good for the smaller ATV type permanent magnet (2 terminal) motors.

If you're looking for alternative suppliers try the brand names "Titan Solenoid" or "Spartan Solenoid"
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You won't get much help, as most don't have a clue about Albrights.. But your in Luck as I spent months doing the research.. Dont waste your time or money buying from the UK.. Too high an exchange rate.. Get Warn part # 34971. Its called a 12v contactor.. Its made by Albright and looks just like the ones your looking at, but its twice the size and power... Works great on my 8274.. Get ahold of Foothill Motorsports here on the forum, he has the best price, of around 160 US.. You only need 1.
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They will work for any series wound (3 terminal) winch motor. They are no good for the smaller ATV type permanent magnet (2 terminal) motors.

If you're looking for alternative suppliers try the brand names "Titan Solenoid" or "Spartan Solenoid"
Perfect, thanks guys.
Been searching for a while and just couldn't get the right search words. Now I can order the right part the first time.
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Bringing this back up, Is this the way to go still? Or was it ever?

I can get the warn part number listed above, and need to replace all me solenoids, so Am I better with this??
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I used the above part number when I rebuilt my 8274. Works well but no real hard or extended duration pulls on it yet.
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How the heck does that one little part replace 4 solenoids?

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How the heck does that one little part replace 4 solenoids?

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The solenoids are paired up, 2 per power wire. 2 big solenoids would do the same job, or apparently one unit that switches 2 ways....

I like this idea if it works as good as it looks.
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The solenoids are paired up, 2 per power wire. 2 big solenoids would do the same job, or apparently one unit that switches 2 ways....

I like this idea if it works as good as it looks.
Why? Just to handle the amps?

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When I was searching solenoids at the parts store the other day, the solenoids that cross referanced from the warn replacement number are only rated at 200 amps. Go to the warn site and the winch pulls in excess of 400 amps peak. I would assume that they are bridged to handle the load.
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I've had the Albrights on each of my M8273-50s for the past 5 years and heaving use my winches (since my traction sucks )...

I used to burn at least one Warn solinoid a year...replaced with these and that was that.

I bought mine from www.devon4x4.co.uk, not sure what's available in the US...they are ~90$ a unit, shipping isn't bad as they are small-ish, light-ish.

The ones I have are the HDs, there seems to be some UHDs out nowadays...
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You won't get much help, as most don't have a clue about Albrights.. But your in Luck as I spent months doing the research.. Dont waste your time or money buying from the UK.. Too high an exchange rate.. Get Warn part # 34971. Its called a 12v contactor.. Its made by Albright and looks just like the ones your looking at, but its twice the size and power... Works great on my 8274.. Get ahold of Foothill Motorsports here on the forum, he has the best price, of around 160 US.. You only need 1.
So in that pic there is a motor in and out power wire on the bottom, a battery ground and power on the top, and the 3 wires from the in-out switch, two being ground, the other being power? Which one gets power determines which motor power cable gets its circuit completed? So there's really kind of two contactors in that small unit? And what about it guarantees that it will never fail vs. a solenoid?

Is there somewhere in the US to get these or their equivalent? This would solve a few space issues that I am having remote-mounting my M8000 solenoid pack.

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Is there somewhere in the US to get these or their equivalent? This would solve a few space issues that I am having remote-mounting my M8000 solenoid pack.

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I like the the idea other than if it did fail you couldn't just run to the parts store and buy a cheap temporary solenoid. You would probably be a week or two away from a replacement. Hence my question over how fail-proof they really are.

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I like the the idea other than if it did fail you couldn't just run to the parts store and buy a cheap temporary solenoid. You would probably be a week or two away from a replacement. Hence my question over how fail-proof they really are.

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See, this is why I brought it back up
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I used the SuperWinch equivalent for three years on the old car.

Compact, durable, simple. That thing worked flawless.
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Travis what did you end up doing?

Thanks

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So far I'm very happy with the ones from 12volt guy. They even survived a mis-wire on my part, causing a dead shorts with two batteries of current. Enough to make 2/0 cable jump.

I also tossed the light weight copper bars for 2GA cable between solenoids.

There is no way in hell they will fit in a WARN solenoid box though.

I can tell you that if I ever have a problem with these burning up before my motor, I'll have to go to albrights.

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Also, if you have the stock warn power cables, you may want to replace them and use double walled (glue) heat shrink to seal it up.

Mine and my wife's winch cables had corrosion wicked up the cable, in my wife's case 2-3' up the cable inside the jacket. The heat shrink warn put on them was crap.
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When I was searching solenoids at the parts store the other day, the solenoids that cross referanced from the warn replacement number are only rated at 200 amps. Go to the warn site and the winch pulls in excess of 400 amps peak. I would assume that they are bridged to handle the load.
The 4 solenoid setup isn't really bridged.
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