Looking for a 58"-62"(wms-wms) D44 rear, what vehicles have them factory?? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

TANKOMA · 09-08-2001, 12:04 PM

Looking for a 58"-62" (WMS-WMS) wide Dana 44 rear, what vehicles have them factory?? I am going to go to the salvage yard and look for one but i need to know what vehicles to look under.
I would prefer to find one with a 6lug pattern already but im not that picky, any lug pattern will do me just fine.
please help me out guys.
Thanks, <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

Old Scout · 09-08-2001, 12:26 PM

Scout II will have a 60" and 30 spline, 1.31" axles d44.

TANKOMA · 09-08-2001, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Old Scout:
Scout II will have a 60" and 30 spline, 1.31" axles d44.

What years? What bolt pattern?
Thanks bud,

Old Scout · 09-08-2001, 12:44 PM

The Scout II was built from 1971 to 1980. Some of the 4&6 clyinder scout will have 18 spline axles. ALL scouts are 5x5.5

TANKOMA · 09-08-2001, 12:59 PM

Any other suggestions ANYONE???
C'mon, theres tons of vehicles with D44s, i need to make a list of vehicles to check under.
thanks <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">

Charly · 09-08-2001, 01:02 PM

Late 86-91 GW. Six lug and centered pig.

Charly

LostIt · 09-08-2001, 01:16 PM

I know it sounds wierd, but Isuzu Rodeos had rear D44's. I don't know the exact width, but I know it falls into the range you are looking at. An added bonus is that these vehicles are six lug and many can be found with factory disc brakes. I brought this subject up before so do a search in the toyota truck section.

Old Scout · 09-08-2001, 01:36 PM

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SeaBass44 · 09-08-2001, 02:12 PM

87 up full size waganer, 6 lug centered 60" - 62", some are 20's so be sure.

TANKOMA · 09-08-2001, 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by Old Scout:
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Oh ya duh!, i was there a long time ago, i forgot about it!!
Anyways i do have a question, what is:

>>>"Dana Diffs Carrier Break"<<<
>>"3.73 and down; 3.92 and up"<<

Are there 2 different carriers??
thanks for the help bud,
later,

Jeepdude_Jay · 09-08-2001, 05:40 PM

Yep. I would bet that most if not all the GWaggies will have the 3.73- flavor.

Doublecab · 09-08-2001, 06:04 PM

there are diffrent carriers. I had to buy a new carrier to run 5:13's in my dana 44. I think the break is 3:91's and most came stock with higher gears than that so you will need to get a new carrier when you go with your 4:88's. Ran me 50$ for one from randy's.

Doublecab · 09-08-2001, 06:06 PM

also you might want to check the rear axles of the waggys. I think there either dana 44's or 60's. Not positive though. Just look under one of the early 80's models and it should say if it's a 44 or 60 right by the diff.

Charly · 09-08-2001, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SeaBass44:
87 up full size waganer, 6 lug centered 60" - 62", some are 20's so be sure.

Is there an echo in here?

BTW, no 20's in these "late" GWs (and Wagoneers of these vintage are XJs, not FSJs).

[ 09-08-2001: Message edited by: Charly ]

Charly · 09-08-2001, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doublecab:
also you might want to check the rear axles of the waggys. I think there either dana 44's or 60's. Not positive though. Just look under one of the early 80's models and it should say if it's a 44 or 60 right by the diff.

Is there an echo in here?

No 60s, just 44s from late 86 - 91 on the GWs. From 80-late 86 the rears are the HD AMC 20 (centered).

[ 09-08-2001: Message edited by: Charly ]

Doublecab · 09-09-2001, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Charly:
Is there an echo in here?

BTW, no 20's in these "late" GWs (and Wagoneers of these vintage are XJs, not FSJs).

Look at the "bible" to confirm what I was talking about. it even list the 67-80 waggy to have a rear dana 44.
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Charly · 09-09-2001, 05:52 AM

Yeah, but most pre 80 Wags have Quadratrac tcases with offset 44 rears. so I don't think that would help him. <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

09-08-2001, 12:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
TANKOMA Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3056 Location: Blossburg, PA Posts: 606	Looking for a 58"-62"(wms-wms) D44 rear, what vehicles have them factory?? Looking for a 58"-62" (WMS-WMS) wide Dana 44 rear, what vehicles have them factory?? I am going to go to the salvage yard and look for one but i need to know what vehicles to look under. I would prefer to find one with a 6lug pattern already but im not that picky, any lug pattern will do me just fine. please help me out guys. Thanks, <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> __________________ --------- Steve Dalton "Tank"/"Trugg" ....Parting out my '96 Tacoma Truggy

09-08-2001, 12:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,398	Scout II will have a 60" and 30 spline, 1.31" axles d44. __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

09-08-2001, 12:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,398	The Scout II was built from 1971 to 1980. Some of the 4&6 clyinder scout will have 18 spline axles. ALL scouts are 5x5.5 __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

09-08-2001, 12:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
TANKOMA Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3056 Location: Blossburg, PA Posts: 606	Any other suggestions ANYONE??? C'mon, theres tons of vehicles with D44s, i need to make a list of vehicles to check under. thanks <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> __________________ --------- Steve Dalton "Tank"/"Trugg" ....Parting out my '96 Tacoma Truggy

09-08-2001, 01:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Charly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1478 Location: Pisgah Posts: 2,127	Late 86-91 GW. Six lug and centered pig. Charly __________________ Extinguish the light of rationalist authority and barbarous ignorance will be nowhere found.

09-08-2001, 01:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
LostIt Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2099 Location: Pearland Tx Posts: 1,484	I know it sounds wierd, but Isuzu Rodeos had rear D44's. I don't know the exact width, but I know it falls into the range you are looking at. An added bonus is that these vehicles are six lug and many can be found with factory disc brakes. I brought this subject up before so do a search in the toyota truck section.

09-08-2001, 01:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,398	HAVE YOU BEEN HERE: http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/bible/index.html <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

09-08-2001, 02:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
SeaBass44 www.12voltguy.com Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 40 Location: 80 miles n-sac in Oroville, CA Posts: 30,709	87 up full size waganer, 6 lug centered 60" - 62", some are 20's so be sure. __________________ 12voltguy info@12voltguy.com--davezoffroadperformance.com # 530.532.4529 TTC 2010 1989 BRONCO -Awesome web development for your business. www.mudnworks.com mud@mudnworks.com Pat's W I D E TOYOTA Front Axle --07 KTM 450XC----with "stuff"

09-08-2001, 05:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jeepdude_Jay Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 693 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 1,387	Yep. I would bet that most if not all the GWaggies will have the 3.73- flavor. __________________ 46 2A

09-08-2001, 06:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
Doublecab Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6794 Location: Florida Posts: 41	there are diffrent carriers. I had to buy a new carrier to run 5:13's in my dana 44. I think the break is 3:91's and most came stock with higher gears than that so you will need to get a new carrier when you go with your 4:88's. Ran me 50$ for one from randy's. __________________ Shawn SAS double cab tacoma in progress. www.angelfire.com/extreme2/supersized

09-08-2001, 06:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
Doublecab Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6794 Location: Florida Posts: 41	also you might want to check the rear axles of the waggys. I think there either dana 44's or 60's. Not positive though. Just look under one of the early 80's models and it should say if it's a 44 or 60 right by the diff. __________________ Shawn SAS double cab tacoma in progress. www.angelfire.com/extreme2/supersized

09-09-2001, 05:52 AM	#17 (permalink)
Charly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1478 Location: Pisgah Posts: 2,127	Yeah, but most pre 80 Wags have Quadratrac tcases with offset 44 rears. so I don't think that would help him. <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> __________________ Extinguish the light of rationalist authority and barbarous ignorance will be nowhere found.

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