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Old 08-14-2009, 12:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Smile #4488 V2R Prep

A long time ago we decided that running Vegas to Reno in the Ultra 4 Class just sounded too fun. Then life happened and it kind of went by the wayside but a few weeks ago the topic came back up and the go button was hit.

None of this really is possible for me/us without the help of our Sponsors:

Offroad Design is doing all of the prep and re modeling of the car to either meet the BITD requirements or for the new parts we are adding. ORD is a no brainer to me since Stephen is my brother and therefore I think James is my dad. But I really think that they have a good idea of what it takes to make vehicles last. James and Stephen will be spending time in the car as well.

Since we are planning to be running an hour or so in the dark each night Light Force stepped up with 6 of their 170 HID lights.

Tom Woods driveshafts will keep us moving at a blistering pace through what ever the desert can throw at us. For this race he is doing a lighter wall shaft than the 1/4" wall shaft he did for KOH this year.

Shocks are going to be huge so we teamed up with King shocks. I have had their shocks on the car for 6 years now and didn't do any type of real maintenance to them. We did revalve them before KOH but they have not been run much more than that race so we are leaving the coilovers alone and adding a set of Bypasses to the rear.

Before KOH we got hooked up with Pat Gremillion with Premier Power welder to install one of his systems on the car. This serves two purposes to us. Premier has a high output ALT. that we needed anyway because of all of the electric fans and it gets us a welder on board. Plus the ability to run AC power tools (Blender). Once again Premier is on board and providing multiple spare ALT. as well as their expertise in getting the charging system going good.

PSC came through with a log cooler and new TC pump for us. The pump on the car is original to the build (6 years ago) and I have not run a cooler on this car ever. PSC is amazed that it works and works well IMO, I guess something is right in the system, we did feel that we should take their advice on a cooler so we are adding one in.

Stage 8 is providing their spindle nuts. We were hoping that they would work on the 14 bolt rear as well as the 60 but they won't due to hub design.

Robin Stover with fourwheeler magazine will be riding along with us and spending some time in the car as well. It was with his help that we were able to secure:
37" Nitto desert tires to wrap around our 17" Trail ready HD wheels
and Amsoil oils and filters to have good lubrication for the 1,000 grueling miles that the car is about to run through.
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The newest parts.

Be on the lookout for a report on the race from Robin.

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The idea was to just re-number the 301 General Lee impostor from KOH do some prep work and go race. Boy did that turn out to be wrong.

It was decided we needed more fuel on the car. ORD happened to have a 32 gallon cell on hand but it didn't fit where my cell is now so we just added the 32 gal. cell onto the car. Should be able to carry 54+ gallons on the car now. This is a plumbing, and venting adventure but will work well. Since the cell mounts in the area formally occupied by the tools and spare tire we now need to relocate all of that.
Tools are being split up into smaller easy to use bags to be stored in various places in and on the car. The spare tire is moved back to the back of the car to provide some more rear weight.
To help control all of this added weight on the back a new set of King 16" travel triple bypass shocks were desired and King really helped out on that.


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Back of car with 32 gallon cell in place and the welding blankets hiding the secret stuff.


Now on to the unexpected things:
A slightly loose Front 60 pinion lead to a full unplanned tear down of the front axle to discover bearings that would have left us in the desert someplace. Since the front was apart the rear came apart to just to make us feel better. The 14 bolt would have made it through the race with everything in it but new bearings were installed just cause we were there.
A leaking transmission adapter required a removal of the ORD doubler to re-seal the transmission adapter. The Doubler was inspected and as usual nothing was found wrong with it after 6 years of service with nothing more than a few oil changes. It was resealed and installed.
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Doubler re-installed.

In tearing into the 60 front the guys found that once again the tierod ends had beat the stock tierod mounting holes out so bad that the ends were very loose and the taper was ruined. These knuckles only lasted for KOH and two trail runs where I drove like an old lady going to church. The stock ford knuckles were one of the known problem areas and weak link so the decision was made to make the big step and get some of these
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Crane knuckles with a fabricated arm to make the existing system and ram mounting work.

So we are a little farther along than the pictures show but a few of those pictures were taken yesterday. I will leave you to guess which ones.

It will be a busy weekend, I close on my house Monday night at 6:00 and we may just leave then to try and make a tuning session with King in Barstow on Tuesday

I need to finish work and get to the shop to help out.
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What about the Motor? Is that 87 suburban motor up to the task?

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What about the Motor? Is that 87 suburban motor up to the task?
Steady and Reliable. Might not be fast but it will push the car over the finish line
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Let me see who is helping from the shop hands.

We might just take you up on that.
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How about a new water pump and gaskets?
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How about a new water pump and gaskets?
Water pump was actually fine. it was the gasket on the back of the pump under the sheet metal cover plate.
I did it months ago. It won't leak again. I might not be able to get it off ever again but it won't leak
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This is awesome to see other people step up and actually show a prep thread for there car.
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schedule just got moved up a little, test session is EARLY tuesday morning, yikes!

It's amazing how much of a job it's been getting all the stuff here and right, it's no wonder the big time racers do it for a job, it's hard to do the day job right even when we're doing most of the work from 6pm to 1am.
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More pics of the fabricated arms on the knuckles please.
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more arm pics tomorrow morning, no problem. Just stopped for a snack, then back to bypass mount, light bar and then maybe some sleep.
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Best of luck guys, tell James all 4 down at all times. Want me to send you Keith the Kangaroo with the custom goggles and all for luck???
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[QUOTE=Stephen;10185014]schedule just got moved up a little, test session is EARLY tuesday morning, yikes!

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Best of luck to you guy's at V2R. My money's on you.

Don't worry to much on the EARLY. KING will be there but, don't expect them to roll in at 8:00 like they might have told you. In case they didn't tell you, bring what you need to pull your shocks off. They will be more than happy to work on the shocks but you have to have all the tools to get them off your rig.
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Thanks for the heads up on the shock pulling, I kind of assumed that and having seen Campbell's super sweet gantry I formulated a plan that's about as booty fab as anything we've ever done...
My old swingset was built by my dad to his normal standards - structural way beyond holding up some little kids. Turns out it pulled a couple of motors and hung some meat when we got too old to swing on it and now it's coming out of retirement to pull shocks in the field when combined with a cable come along. I think we'll stick a shorter piece of pipe in the middle to make it 6 feet wide or so but otherwise it should be good to go.

This day was spent on a light mounts, rear bypass shock mounts and some other details like the tail lights, iritrack mount, link arm heims, finishing the knuckle project, screwing the interior back together, etc.
I have some pics but will have to upload later.
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just fired the motor, topped off fluids, checked for leaks, etc. Still have misc. projects like mounting the jack and a couple of toolbags. We're not going to make the test date with King

And we need to throw all the stuff in the trucks. This racing stuff is a ton of work.
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Way to go 4488!!! they finished 1st on day 2 and 3 and took 2nd overall!!!!
And they stopped a few times to help some of the other racers! Awesome job... So now that You both have spots at the KOH are we going to see 2 Watson rigs there
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http://www.sopwithmotorsports.com/live/ top video at 38 mins
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For additional race coverage on Team Watson's V2R race effort, check out Robin Stover's Blogs on Fourwheeler.com
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Congrats on 2nd, I think I was the only one to vote for you in the poll about who you think will win.
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Congrats guys! What an awesome effort!
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I predict many cars painted orange for next years race....
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What is going on with the front driver tire in this picture?
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I read on the Blog that that was tape used to ID tires in the pits. Just not worn off yet for the day it seems.
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Has tape on it, it was the spare. they put tape on the new spares for a few reasons..... I dont know which reasons are true.. I have heard it is so they can write driver info on the tape and I have heard they do you it so they know which spare has not been used...

nolen beat me to it..haha

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