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Old 02-24-2010, 06:20 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Some of these used ones are less than a new snowmobile...

http://www.chameleoninc.com/snowcats/

makes you wonder WHY, don't it?
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:05 PM   #152 (permalink)
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ha ha as for picts of broken parts all that i have to date is three broken aluminum supports for the idler wheels from hitting rocks and the sliders on one of the rear tracks is almost gone from the track that is missing most of its side lugs(not enough support for the track and driving on the gravel roads for miles and miles) still havent put the extra wheels on yet will wait till i am ready to put away for the summer and put all new parts on sliders and wheels.

i am burining about one litre of fuel for one mile of grooming on new trails better milage on existing trails less load on truck
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:27 PM   #153 (permalink)
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ha ha as for picts of broken parts all that i have to date is three broken aluminum supports for the idler wheels from hitting rocks and the sliders on one of the rear tracks is almost gone from the track that is missing most of its side lugs(not enough support for the track and driving on the gravel roads for miles and miles) still havent put the extra wheels on yet will wait till i am ready to put away for the summer and put all new parts on sliders and wheels.

i am burining about one litre of fuel for one mile of grooming on new trails better milage on existing trails less load on truck
so 4mpg ok

How 'bout them pics or thrashed sliders then? What else we got to look at?

Gravel is not the preferred material for sliders
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:07 AM   #154 (permalink)
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ok as soon as i get home i will have picts, tonight i am going out again to do some trails.
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Old 02-26-2010, 09:57 AM   #155 (permalink)
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ok here are the broken parts so far............. some front idler wheel supports and some idler wheels not to bad for the miles i have put on this rig so far...nice part about all this is it doesn't affect the driving of the truck due to the sliders still under there and as long as you stay on the snow you are fine.. the only reason that the outside ones are breaking off is when i hit a rock on the edge of the track it makes a lout bang and throws the truck sideways so takes a lot to break.... the middle ones are fine they are supported on both sides of the wheel. the track that is in bad shape started like that i is just getting worse i cary a spare one takes 15 min to change if i had to.
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Old 02-26-2010, 11:24 AM   #156 (permalink)
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Ooh nice carnage! the frazzled track does look bad but you say you installed it like that (Free eh?)

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Old 02-26-2010, 04:46 PM   #157 (permalink)
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glad you enjoy it, ha ha now is the plan looking for some more 121 tracks and also looking for some 136" tracks or maybe something longer for the rear as i am for sure going to be building longer ones for the rear in the summer, also have to pick up a cheep dakota to use as a groomer this durango will be going under the torch in the next few weeks, to get a sas dana 60 front and a 10.5 stirling rear. she served her life for the winter like i had wanted it to.
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glad you enjoy it, ha ha now is the plan looking for some more 121 tracks and also looking for some 136" tracks or maybe something longer for the rear as i am for sure going to be building longer ones for the rear in the summer, also have to pick up a cheep dakota to use as a groomer this durango will be going under the torch in the next few weeks, to get a sas dana 60 front and a 10.5 stirling rear. she served her life for the winter like i had wanted it to.
As much as I would like to see someone run some 153" or 162" tracks with 2.25" paddles on a setup like this I would be cautious about tracks over 130" the price and availability seems to shoot up quite a bit.

I was happy to pay $400 for a stock Arctic Cat 162" take off to clip the paddles down to run for late season snow.
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Old 02-26-2010, 08:31 PM   #159 (permalink)
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i am able to get 136 tracks for a good price but yes anything over that for mee here in manitoba we dont have mountains so not to many long tracks kicking around
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:26 PM   #160 (permalink)
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hi me and a buddy of mine have gotten intrested in making a track vehicle and ive been researching about diffrent styles and was wondering if you could give me diffrent mesurements and angles so i can get a base in starting my set. i was wondering things like your rim size and lenth and angles of the diffrent parts of the frame. and maybe a few tips on designing it. i plan on making a version for summer and winter where they dont rely as much on sliders but will consider keeping that on as a back up to the small running wheels. my plan is on taking another jeep cherokee and turning it into a moose rig and then adding tracks in the back if not in the front too depending of effectiveness, thanks and you have a sick set up
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:16 PM   #161 (permalink)
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I put up a link to Mattracks patent - use that, it's a good system.

Other than than, it's not a kit - it depends on what you want to scrounge up.

Search tracks on www.alaska4x4network.com too, as well as here. Lots of threads.
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:53 PM   #162 (permalink)
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would installing turning brakes help in steering it? kind of like a skid steer effect?


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Old 03-04-2010, 08:36 AM   #163 (permalink)
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huh??? it steers like a truck with 44 inch tires just have to be moving to turn, and it turns as sharp as a regular truck, so brakes would make no difference, This is not a kit that you can buy i made it my self from sheets of steel and lots of thinking....... i will be making a set of longer ones out of 136" tracks. here are some recent picts of the tracks out and about........
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:45 AM   #164 (permalink)
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whoa whoa whoa - what about that BII? no pics of that?

EDIT: and your two rigs on the trail with those Bombardiers is CLASSIC

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Old 03-04-2010, 10:36 AM   #165 (permalink)
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slightly off topic, but what does that durango weigh?
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Old 03-04-2010, 12:20 PM   #166 (permalink)
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yah i know if they were on a lighter truck look out!!!!! the durango weighs in at a hefty 5800lbs
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Old 03-04-2010, 05:09 PM   #167 (permalink)
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ha ha yah classic, the bombies are from some local people out for a ride to the sled cabins. the bronco 2 is my fauther in laws truck he did a design with sled tracks using car rims riding on the track and suported by welding a beam off the axel of the truck with stubs, hard to explain front is even harder, he mounted steel off the cast axel bearing supports, same piece the brake calapers are mounted to, i had some picts will dig around to see if i have them on my comp. He has had to ad extra sliders and such to keep the tracks from riding off. "Building tracks just ain;t is easy as it looks."
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Old 03-04-2010, 05:14 PM   #168 (permalink)
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ok i found some picts of his truck when building it, since these picts he has had to add supports to the outter of the track as it was folding around the rims busting the tracks. and scrapers to keep the rims clean from snow as they would build up with snow tightening the track
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makes me think of this one:


Except it looks like a semi-permanent conversion since it's not pivoting off of a bearing on the wheel. Crrraazy

I can see how the tracks would get broken when on hard ground, while soft snow would be fine. Something more like a cross between his design and the tracks on that rover would work well too I think. The rims seem like a good solution, really - perhaps some sliders too and you have a good year-round track assembly.

The Rover track in the pic failed somewhere in Russia, btw - but they didn't take pics of the carnage or explain what went wrong. It's not first expedition I've read about where I thought to myself, "where is the Ready-Welder?"
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:29 AM   #170 (permalink)
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yah they are totally comited to that truck.
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Old 03-08-2010, 08:51 AM   #171 (permalink)
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being the end of the year and almost the last time to ride this thing i took it out and put it through the ultimate test, tryed to break it, and did ha ha. But it wasnt from driving it more picts to follow of what happened and what broke tomorrow, i don't have my plug for loading picts.
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:33 PM   #172 (permalink)
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Have you had a chance to upload your pics? I have the majority of what I need for my build, mostly I lack the time.
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Old 03-25-2010, 07:14 AM   #173 (permalink)
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i ordered the plug waiting for it to show up, early next week i will have picts and videos.
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:45 PM   #174 (permalink)
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here are some picts of when i drove into the culvert i also have links for the video to follow the axel is what broke but it took a lot to do it basically twisted the truck sideways when pulling it out of the culvert, i didn't see that it was in there, oh well....
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Old 04-13-2010, 05:28 PM   #175 (permalink)
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Total goober question I've only seen snow a hand full of time in my life I'm thinking about all terrain track. how about surplus tank or bobcat tracks, (I know they wiegh a ton) what about some kind of similar linked belt so you could make your own size and repair on the trail if you had to? what else has a linked track that could be adapted?
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