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Old 03-19-2010, 05:36 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Here is an update of how the drawing is matching up the the actual buggy.









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damn doc, you weren't kidding when you said the buggy was unreal! that thing is gorgeous!
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Buggy looks smokin.


Only question I can come up with is how are you going to stop the rear lower links from rotating with the shocks mounted above the center line and spherical bearings at each end?
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Buggy looks smokin.


Only question I can come up with is how are you going to stop the rear lower links from rotating with the shocks mounted above the center line and spherical bearings at each end?
Hmmm?

What are you shooting for as far as front/rear weight? I'm not sure what's "right" but this one sure looks like it's going to be light in front. Awesome in the open to keep the front end up but maybe not so good climbing?
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Only question I can come up with is how are you going to stop the rear lower links from rotating with the shocks mounted above the center line and spherical bearings at each end?
simple UHMW spacers around the misalignment spacers to keep the links in place
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:14 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Great job guys. Very well thought out chassis. Really looking forward to seeing this beast done. I love the CAD layout.
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:23 PM   #58 (permalink)
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simple UHMW spacers around the misalignment spacers to keep the links in place
Take this the right way, I'm not shy about learning...

If you put a hard spacer on each side you only get up and down motion around the ball, it can't let the link move side to side. Or does the material move enough to let it move side to side enough?

We use some urethane donuts to keep bent panhard bars from rattling but it's softer. Similar situation with some piggyback reservoirs on shocks, we use a urethane donut to keep the res in one place.

We put a stabilizer link on our rear uppers with the shock mounts on them along with putting the shocks on centerline. At least part of the reason for the stabilizer link is to keep the arms upright when they get hit/dragged too.
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damn, who does your CAD work, that is sweet..
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looks great. Any more bracing for the bump cans in the plans?
The front bump cans are boxed in now knocking out two birds with one stone holding the oil box in place and the rear will be incorporated into a removable cross member for access to drop the belly and pull the engine from top and bottom....
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Take this the right way, I'm not shy about learning...

If you put a hard spacer on each side you only get up and down motion around the ball, it can't let the link move side to side. Or does the material move enough to let it move side to side enough?

We use some urethane donuts to keep bent panhard bars from rattling but it's softer. Similar situation with some piggyback reservoirs on shocks, we use a urethane donut to keep the res in one place.

We put a stabilizer link on our rear uppers with the shock mounts on them along with putting the shocks on centerline. At least part of the reason for the stabilizer link is to keep the arms upright when they get hit/dragged too.
Don't forget you have two joints on the link itself which takes care of that motion....
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simple UHMW spacers around the misalignment spacers to keep the links in place
Simple and light weight, cool deal.

With Woodlee's attention to detail I knew it wouldn't be overlooked, but I almost expected to see something fancy like Poly did for Static's bronco.



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Don't forget you have two joints on the link itself which takes care of that motion....
I'm guessing you're using a uhmw donut that takes up the space between the rod end and the mounting tab, is this right? At that point it would keep the link from falling over but at the same time it can only rotate around the bolt, not move laterally along the same direction as the bolt. What am I missing here?
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I'm guessing you're using a uhmw donut that takes up the space between the rod end and the mounting tab, is this right? At that point it would keep the link from falling over but at the same time it can only rotate around the bolt, not move laterally along the same direction as the bolt. What am I missing here?
Your right, it takes up the space between the rod end and the mounting tab.... In turn makes the link rotate in motion with the travel of the shock, it's almost like the lower joint on the shock is eliminated.... That means that the joints at the axle housing and the chassis turn. Doing this gives us better ground clearance at the links because they are flat, rather than running a standard desert style, where the lower shock bolts are lower than the center line.
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Your right, it takes up the space between the rod end and the mounting tab.... In turn makes the link rotate in motion with the travel of the shock, it's almost like the lower joint on the shock is eliminated.... That means that the joints at the axle housing and the chassis turn. Doing this gives us better ground clearance at the links because they are flat, rather than running a standard desert style, where the lower shock bolts are lower than the center line.
So you're putting the "bushing" or spacer on the shock eye? That would free up the link arm to move side to side with the axle.
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So you're putting the "bushing" or spacer on the shock eye? That would free up the link arm to move side to side with the axle.
yes, on the shock
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Glad to finally see a build thread....

I can't wait to drive this thing or atleast bump it with my buggy....

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