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Old 10-14-2010, 12:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2011 Torchmate TTB Ultra4 Build Thread

Torchmate has recently begun construction on it’s in house designed TTB Ultra4 car for the 2011 King of the Hammers race, 2011 Ultra4 season, and beyond. This car has been born out of the evolution of the sport over the past few years, drawing on experience from the entire Torchmate Racing team from the Rocks to the Desert. The idea behind the car is to have an extremely capable, yet simple and easy to maintain Ultra 4 car to satisfy the teams interest in KOH style racing all the way through to the Baja 1000. Lead Designer and Torchmate employee Jesse Haines will be spearheading the effort from start to finish. From the desert side of the Torchmate Racing program Jesse will be joined by Jake Povey, who is Torchmate’s Desert racing guru and lead prep manager for the Torchmate Class 7 truck and the Torchmate Rock Buggy. Torchmate’s Mike Aiello is contributing the front TTB suspension design and assisting in the general design of the car. On top of this team of highly skilled builders, Torchmate’s Mark Levrett Production Manager and newly appointed Racing General Manager JT Taylor will be providing additional knowledge and support to this build. JT Taylor will also be piloting the new Torchmate TTB car in the 2011 King of the Hammers race with Roger Norman pulling driver and co-driver duties as well! The plan is to get the rig done in time for ample testing before the 2011 race to work out any bugs. We are hopeful that we can pull it off even given the short build time.

Parts have been ordered and are arriving daily, and Jake has been TIG welding the Chromoly sub-frame together to get Jesse’s platform for the new build started. The design and production of this car will be done completely in house at the Torchmate’s production facility where all of our Turnkey CNC cutting machines and water tables are produced from the Torchmate 2x2 to the 12’x40’ Torchmate X water and downdraft tables. All of the plate work for the car will be cut on a combination of the 5'x10' Torchmate X table that we use for all of our production work and a Torchmate 2x2 CNC Prototyping System we keep in the Race Prep portion of the shop to demonstrate the ability and versatility of the Torchmate machine.

As far as actual car specifications are concerned, this was debated upon heavily between all Torchmate Racing team members. The final design that we decided on is a Twin Traction Beam (TTB) front engine 4wd setup for its advantages in the desert over solid axle, and advantages over IFS in the rock crawling sections. The design had already been started by Mike for Dave Schneider’s Ultra 4 car many months ago, and now has been picked back up and completed for this build. TTB is a tried and true desert technology that we will be advancing and adapting to work for Rock Racing type applications. There are many modified stock type TTB systems available. However, we felt that in order to make the best use of the technology available in the off road industry today, and to take advantage of our combined knowledge gained in both rock crawling and desert racing, that we would design a custom, 9” based TTB setup. This would offer us a more in terms of strength and reliability in the rocks. Below are the spec's on the car:

1.75 “ Chromoly Chassis
550 HP LS2
TH400 Transmission
3.0 Atlas 2 speed, with Pro Series Gears and 300m output shafts
Griffin Radiator, Transmission cooler, and Oil cooler
PRP Seats
Tubeworks 4” Chromoly Rear Housing with Torchmate suspension and Truss
Tubeworks Trophy Truck 3rd member, 10” ring gear, 40 spline axles with 40 spline spool, 5.43 ratio
24” rear axle travel
14” travel 2.5” Radflo Coilovers
16” travel 3.0 Radflo Bypass’
Torchmate 9” TTB setup with Mega-Hi9 third, ARB,
Spidertrax pumpkin and Pro Series Knuckles
20” front wheel travel
14” travel 2.5” Radflo Coilovers and 3.0 Bypass’
Solid Axle Spindles and Hubs
CTM 300m Shafts
JE Reel Driveshafts
Allied Wheels
37-40” Goodyear Tires















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Old 10-14-2010, 12:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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very nice lookin subframe.
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Awesome Trophy Crawler !!! :smoking

thanks for posting the build and allowing us to watch as you guys work your magic.
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on the TTB.....I think it is a great option for the common man to go fast if you guys can do your magic on it.
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Old 10-14-2010, 12:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Finally someone is gonna go TTB. Can't wait to see how it turns out maybe by the time you get it done, I can swing getting chassis number two, so I can go race against the IFS cars that want to dominate BITD next year.

Nice Ultra4 Build.

Will the Torchmate TTB front assembly be a retail item, or is it planned for a one off?
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Old 10-14-2010, 12:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Going to be an awesome build! Awesome to see you guys at Torchmate take such a competitive interest in the sport
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I cant wait to see how the TTB performs both in the rocks and the desert. Beautiful sub frame, and a lucky crew to be workin with such awesome machinery, both the cars and the tools.
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wow,

this has alot of potential to be a kick ass rig. i cant wait to see all the plate work you guys come up with on this project
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Old 10-14-2010, 01:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Finally someone is gonna go TTB. Can't wait to see how it turns out maybe by the time you get it done, I can swing getting chassis number two, so I can go race against the IFS cars that want to dominate BITD next year.

Nice Ultra4 Build.

Will the Torchmate TTB front assembly be a retail item, or is it planned for a one off?
Thanks Jeff!

We are constantly trying to come up with new products to build and sell to help further the Sport along with the Torchmate Racing program and its team members. As far as resale of the TTB front assembly goes, consider yourself first on the list for #2. First thing we need to do is make sure it works. There is a lot of controversy surrounding TTB. There is no question that it is a more affordable form of IFS than some of the other cars that have been built in the last couple years. Some describe it as the best of two worlds and some describe it as the worst. I guess we will see. Personally, I think that the driver makes the car. I couldn't be happier building something for JT Taylor and Roger Norman to go try to break. We are all a little stressed about the time we have to get this done. My team does not like to cut corners. I see a lot of hands getting involved in this build. Like I said Jeff, once its done and it works, you are the first on the list for the second one. Start saving up buddy!
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Did you guys figure out a way to keep the front ttb shafts from getting exposed to rocks during suspension travel/flex?
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I think Trophy Crawler is appropriate. This rig is definitely getting some blingin beef

Any 3D models for us to look at?
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Did you guys figure out a way to keep the front ttb shafts from getting exposed to rocks during suspension travel/flex?
Yes, everything should be very well protected as this will not be using a single piece of a stock TTB component in it.
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Nice work guys! Subframe looks awesome.. Love the welds and the ideas... Trophy Crawler is going to take it up a notch.
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There will actually now be 2 ttb front end buggies that will at koh this year. I know of another one being built right now, gonna be a site to see 2 of them out there.
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JabNasty, you talking about Corey's (in the hardcore jeep section), or another one? I was hoping that there would be more ttb builds popping up, I'll be watching this one closely. Interested to see what you guys come up with for the custom ttb assembly.
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i wanna see the TTB! subscribed!
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Nothing more to add. Can't wait to see it come along.
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Nope ive been watching that one and its sweet but there is one more still in chassis form thats being built right now.
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This build is going to great to watch!!!
Here is a new rig that we will be testing this weekend for the first time!! It will be racing Ultra 4 in the BITD next season...
TTB frt. limited to 21" of travel frt. 26" rear..
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See Todd, you had to beat us by an inch on the front travel didn't ya? Looks sweet. Is there a build thread for it?. I am anxious to hear how it does in the rocks.
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What width are you building the ttb to?
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I've got a ton of questions that i am sure will be answered with time, but one that i can't wait for... Are you going equal length on the beams?
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There will actually now be 2 ttb front end buggies that will at koh this year. I know of another one being built right now, gonna be a site to see 2 of them out there.
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JabNasty, you talking about Corey's (in the hardcore jeep section), or another one? I was hoping that there would be more ttb builds popping up, I'll be watching this one closely. Interested to see what you guys come up with for the custom ttb assembly.
Mine will be there too. I guess that makes 3 TTB rigs at KOH this year

(by the way, for everyone that's wondering - TTB is cool now)
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