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Travis Waldher · 09-19-2011, 11:05 AM

We were doing some yard work this weekend, had a mini-ex to prep for a driveway extension at the neighbors then tear out a massive amount of blackberries.

The driveway extension was entertaining. He had some guys that owed his kid some back rent, I guess it's a sizeable amount. They haven't been able to pay it so they were given the option to work it out, which they took.

5-7 yards of clumpy root infested dirt in 2'x2'x2' cubes were loaded in to a pickup truck and deposited out in the back of his property. I felt sorry for the guys unloading it and you could tell that each new truckload was even more demoralizing than the last. In between truck loads they were hand digging a ditch. I wasn't doing much to help them, I had 10-12 hours of machine work I was condensing in to under 8 as much as possible. Even felt kinda bad about the truckloads I was sending their way.

I'll give them credit though, while they didn't return the Sunday phone call until after the football game was over. Saturday, they diligently worked their asses off never really slacking off or complaining for what amounted to $10/hr each in pay back. They took a little prod on Sunday, but they'll be back this week to continue the work. I wonder my neighbor will lend them to me.

ironpig70 · 09-19-2011, 11:07 AM

Thats better than what you'd get here

thumping · 09-19-2011, 11:09 AM

When did minimum wage hit $10...

71BRONCO71 · 09-19-2011, 11:10 AM

No suckage at all.

Paying off his/her debt tax free. Thats kind of cool to see, rather then pay an illegal Home Depot "stalker"

sceep · 09-19-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by thumping

When did minimum wage hit $10...

$9.85 here (in santa fe)

71BRONCO71 · 09-19-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by thumping

When did minimum wage hit $10...

If you think about it, if that was money taken home after taxes, it would be roughly $12-13/hr.

jerseyzuks · 09-19-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 71BRONCO71

If you think about it, if that was money taken home after taxes, it would be roughly $15/hr.

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And if you consider the fact that he is probably still on unemployment... tack on another $15... dude is making the equivelant to $30 an hour, hardly min wage

Travis Waldher · 09-19-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thumping

When did minimum wage hit $10...

Well, $8.67 in WA state, but it's close enough.

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Originally Posted by 71BRONCO71

No suckage at all.

Paying off his/her debt tax free. Thats kind of cool to see, rather then pay an illegal Home Depot "stalker"

The suckage was the work they had to do that day. The next round of work is much easier/less sucky.

Maybe I'll ask the neighbor about my side of the yard later this week. He seems really happy with how much I got done in the back and then hauled out (20-25 yards of vines weighing around 4 tons, most of it his, with another 8 yards and growing on the trailer). I was happy just using the machine for an hour on my side, maybe he'd be willing to lend me his labor for the finish work.

A_G · 09-19-2011, 11:21 AM

yea minimum is about 7.40 hr

i make 13

when i first started working it was 5.25 hr and i made 6.25 (its been almost 6 years now)

YotaTony · 09-19-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by thumping

When did minimum wage hit $10...

Seriously...i would do anything (almost) to be making $10 a hour right now....

71BRONCO71 · 09-19-2011, 11:24 AM

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I took it as 1 dependent, that's roughly 20% taken for taxes. At $15/hr that would be roughly 25% for taxes at 0 dependents.

A_G · 09-19-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 71BRONCO71

I took it as 1 dependent, that's roughly 20% taken for taxes. At $15/hr that would be roughly 25% for taxes at 0 dependents.

at 13 hr, i had an extra 5 to taxes. tax return time i dont owe anything at all, after 40 hours i lose about 90.00 to taxes.

DWT · 09-19-2011, 11:34 AM

Mrs DWT was scanning CL and found a posting for the castle. (chain of "adult" stores). She joked that she was overqualified for the management opening so I told her to give it a go. She applied at 11 pm Thursday and by 10 am Friday they called for her to interview Saturday am.

locotaco85 · 09-19-2011, 11:46 AM

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And if you consider the fact that he is probably still on unemployment... tack on another $15... dude is making the equivelant to $30 an hour, hardly min wage

When did someone making ~$20k a year start paying over 30% in income taxes?

88mitsu · 09-19-2011, 11:48 AM

WTF?

It's $7.25 here.

CrustyJeep · 09-19-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DWT

Mrs DWT was scanning CL and found a posting for the castle. (chain of "adult" stores). She joked that she was overqualified for the management opening so I told her to give it a go. She applied at 11 pm Thursday and by 10 am Friday they called for her to interview Saturday am.

Was just coming in here to remind Travis to do a back ground check in these two clowns. Wouldn't want anyone overqualified working for ya

wireman · 09-19-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by locotaco85

When did someone making ~$20k a year start paying over 30% in income taxes?

When they live in New Jersey?

jerseyzuks · 09-19-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by locotaco85

When did someone making ~$20k a year start paying over 30% in income taxes?

been a long time since I have made $20k a year... I guess they are below the level where they actually pay taxes?

locotaco85 · 09-19-2011, 12:08 PM

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When they live in New Jersey?

Or Maryland!

I'm sure Jersey is right up there on the "ridiculous state income tax rate" scale. IIRC Maryland's is still just 3-4%, they just don't allow shit for deductions.

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been a long time since I have made $20k a year... I guess they are below the level where they actually pay taxes?

Not sure, but I'd guess FICA and not much else to the feds, or at least get most of it back.

jerseyzuks · 09-19-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by locotaco85

Or Maryland!

I'm sure Jersey is right up there on the "ridiculous state income tax rate" scale. IIRC Maryland's is still just 3-4%, they just don't allow shit for deductions.

Not sure, but I'd guess FICA and not much else to the feds, or at least get most of it back.

Yeah, and add on the highest property tax in the country... the highest car insurance... the highest...

locotaco85 · 09-19-2011, 12:30 PM

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Yeah, and add on the highest property tax in the country

Really? I was reading a couple-month-old issue of Baltimore magazine a while back, they featured two different rowhouses in the city that sold for ~$350k, and said the property tax bill was well over $10k a year, I want to say $15k or $18k? I stop calling it property tax when it's what you'd pay on a 30-year mortgage. You're just renting your property from the gubmint at that point.

Is it seriously even worse up there? I know the insurance is, but damn, look at your drivers. And also, stop exporting them down here.

jerseyzuks · 09-21-2011, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by locotaco85

Really? I was reading a couple-month-old issue of Baltimore magazine a while back, they featured two different rowhouses in the city that sold for ~$350k, and said the property tax bill was well over $10k a year, I want to say $15k or $18k? I stop calling it property tax when it's what you'd pay on a 30-year mortgage. You're just renting your property from the gubmint at that point.

Is it seriously even worse up there? I know the insurance is, but damn, look at your drivers. And also, stop exporting them down here.

Yup, #1 state in the entire country for property taxes.

I know lots of people who pay $10K-$15K a year on property tax.

People are fleeing this state in huge numbers because of it

09-19-2011, 11:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
Travis Waldher Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4878 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 7,531	Minimum wage suckage We were doing some yard work this weekend, had a mini-ex to prep for a driveway extension at the neighbors then tear out a massive amount of blackberries. The driveway extension was entertaining. He had some guys that owed his kid some back rent, I guess it's a sizeable amount. They haven't been able to pay it so they were given the option to work it out, which they took. 5-7 yards of clumpy root infested dirt in 2'x2'x2' cubes were loaded in to a pickup truck and deposited out in the back of his property. I felt sorry for the guys unloading it and you could tell that each new truckload was even more demoralizing than the last. In between truck loads they were hand digging a ditch. I wasn't doing much to help them, I had 10-12 hours of machine work I was condensing in to under 8 as much as possible. Even felt kinda bad about the truckloads I was sending their way. I'll give them credit though, while they didn't return the Sunday phone call until after the football game was over. Saturday, they diligently worked their asses off never really slacking off or complaining for what amounted to $10/hr each in pay back. They took a little prod on Sunday, but they'll be back this week to continue the work. I wonder my neighbor will lend them to me.

09-19-2011, 11:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
thumping Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 85483 Posts: 382	When did minimum wage hit $10... __________________ Given up any right means YOU are not worth one drop of the blood sacrificed to have any right.

09-19-2011, 11:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
71BRONCO71 Dent'n Soup Cans Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43526 Location: Ca Posts: 660	No suckage at all. Paying off his/her debt tax free. Thats kind of cool to see, rather then pay an illegal Home Depot "stalker" __________________ N-06177...N-06178... and 63 more to go. KEEP OUR PUBLIC LANDS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC

09-19-2011, 11:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
DWT Dirty WHITE TRASH Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19850 Location: Eastern WA Posts: 3,581	Mrs DWT was scanning CL and found a posting for the castle. (chain of "adult" stores). She joked that she was overqualified for the management opening so I told her to give it a go. She applied at 11 pm Thursday and by 10 am Friday they called for her to interview Saturday am. __________________ Polaris 800 triple powered Odyssey. 150 hp of death underway. Taiwanese Garbage should stay in Taiwan.

09-19-2011, 11:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
88mitsu Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125523 Location: الشيوعية المحتلة أمريكا Posts: 1,292	WTF? It's $7.25 here. __________________ The American public has Stockholm Syndrome.

09-19-2011, 11:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
ironpig70 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6957 Posts: 4,250	Thats better than what you'd get here

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