The release of the 86/FR-S/BRZ - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

kaiserdtm · 11-29-2011, 11:54 AM

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7...gt-86-moniker/

They finally came out with the release photos and some videos of folks driving it over the weekend, I'm super excited about this car and can hardly wait to get behind the wheel of one. I've been a die hard Toy fan since my dad got his first Tundra in 2000. Anyways let me hear your guys opinions on this budget sports car and the co-op of Subaru and Toyota to develop this car.

A few vids of some Japanese folks driving them... wish I knew what they were saying.

http://autoholics.com/2011/11/27/Fir...-Action-583852

cj5.5 · 11-29-2011, 12:45 PM

Looks like a cool car. I like the lightweight front engine RWD idea.

The co-op idea makes sense to me- hopefully goes better than the Saab deal.

Never Monday · 11-29-2011, 12:56 PM

somehow, light weight and 2600 lbs just don't go together :shrug:

clastic · 11-29-2011, 01:04 PM

The Subie version is sexier

(Which is par for Toyota. Take an awesome idea and water it down)

There are only two Toyota Cars I've ever loved driving.

3rd Gen Celica
and the 86-91 Supra.

Everything else... Feh.

Anyway, I hope this car works out and is reliable. Front engine, Rear drive, and a Boxer engine to boot? I'm all over that.

kaiserdtm · 11-29-2011, 01:27 PM

I think a turbo version has real potential to compete with a few of the mid level sports cars out there. It sure has the fundamentals down and right.

kaiserdtm · 11-29-2011, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clastic

The Subie version is sexier

(Which is par for Toyota. Take an awesome idea and water it down)

There are only two Toyota Cars I've ever loved driving.

3rd Gen Celica
and the 86-91 Supra.

Everything else... Feh.

Anyway, I hope this car works out and is reliable. Front engine, Rear drive, and a Boxer engine to boot? I'm all over that.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...auto-show-news

Thats the Subaru version, personally I think the Toy version looks better, the look of the Scion version has yet to be seen as well which is the version we will get over here.

Nightshade · 11-29-2011, 02:12 PM

Looks a lot like the 350z in design.
Performance looks fair but a turbo and better brakes along with gutting it a bit might make it more enjoyable.

CronusTRD · 11-29-2011, 02:17 PM

Looks like you have to be a double amputee to sit in the back seat. Why bother...

clastic · 11-29-2011, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiserdtm

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...auto-show-news

Thats the Subaru version, personally I think the Toy version looks better, the look of the Scion version has yet to be seen as well which is the version we will get over here.

One of the first rendering I saw of the BRZ was in Subaru blue with a scoop a 'la WRX style.

All it needed was gold wheels and it would have been perfect.

atblis · 11-29-2011, 02:23 PM

Get that up to 300 HP, and I am interested.

yotasmob · 11-29-2011, 02:23 PM

Why does Toyota need to get all

and badge it as a Scion for the US market.

Been waiting for this car for a long time, glad to see its going to be a reality one way or another.

TEX · 11-29-2011, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CronusTRD

Looks like you have to be a double amputee to sit in the back seat. Why bother...

Because you plan to sit in the front seat?

trajan · 11-29-2011, 05:57 PM

Looks like typical ricer garbage to me. Red-blooded Americans wouldn't be caught dead driving this.

FOURX4TRUX · 11-29-2011, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trajan

Looks like typical ricer garbage to me. Red-blooded Americans wouldn't be caught dead driving this.

Exactly

stevrock · 11-29-2011, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trajan

Looks like typical ricer garbage to me. Red-blooded Americans wouldn't be caught dead driving this.

Yeah man, red blooded Americans drive American made muscle.

Like the Camaro

HonkIfPartsFallOff! · 11-29-2011, 06:02 PM

It's going racing in the SuperGT GT300 class next year. output around 300hp.

Ebs · 11-29-2011, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Never Monday

somehow, light weight and 2600 lbs just don't go together :shrug:

For how they build cars nowadays that is a featherweight.

reklund5 · 11-29-2011, 07:44 PM

I've driven it. And it rocks

Very well balanced little car- enough power to kick the back end out with a little clutch work and it's light enough to be predictable. Suspension is great stock but even better with a little firmer dampers and lowering springs as we had setup on a second car.

It'll be fun to see what the aftermarket brings to it- I think it'll be a hoot with a few pounds of boost and some sticky tires...

Ryan

Never Monday · 11-29-2011, 07:47 PM

Rugger will still hand you your ass

Deezul · 11-29-2011, 07:53 PM

Under 200hp yay. At least even the v6 mustang(2011-2012) will EAT it

yotasmob · 11-29-2011, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trajan

Looks like typical ricer garbage to me. Red-blooded Americans wouldn't be caught dead driving this.

Toyota RWD cars > all other rice

3rdgen · 11-29-2011, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevrock

Yeah man, red blooded Americans drive American made muscle.

Like the Camaro

more of Aussie muscle.

devuurstorm · 11-29-2011, 08:42 PM

looks like a 350z+a M3+ G35 had some baby and that is what was born.

you will be seeing turbo kits for these pretty quickly and they have a nice look, i would get it in black,

LOGANSTANFORTH · 11-29-2011, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebs

For how they build cars nowadays that is a featherweight.

A 1997 Kia Sephia (Korean tin can) weighs 2160 with a 4 point rollcage, racing seat, harness, detachable steering wheel, no dash, every piece of bolted in parts removed from the interior and 45 pounds of lead...

2600lbs is really good considering it has multiple seats, A/C, heat, radio, full interior, and pretty much all the power shit you can buy I'm sure...

kaiserdtm · 11-29-2011, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reklund5

I've driven it. And it rocks

Very well balanced little car- enough power to kick the back end out with a little clutch work and it's light enough to be predictable. Suspension is great stock but even better with a little firmer dampers and lowering springs as we had setup on a second car.

It'll be fun to see what the aftermarket brings to it- I think it'll be a hoot with a few pounds of boost and some sticky tires...

Ryan

I need to do what your doing, how in the hell did you get a test drive?

11-29-2011, 11:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
kaiserdtm Wheeler Join Date: Nov 2010 Member # 175512 Location: Shreveport Posts: 243	The release of the 86/FR-S/BRZ http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7...gt-86-moniker/ They finally came out with the release photos and some videos of folks driving it over the weekend, I'm super excited about this car and can hardly wait to get behind the wheel of one. I've been a die hard Toy fan since my dad got his first Tundra in 2000. Anyways let me hear your guys opinions on this budget sports car and the co-op of Subaru and Toyota to develop this car. A few vids of some Japanese folks driving them... wish I knew what they were saying. http://autoholics.com/2011/11/27/Fir...-Action-583852 __________________ 2013 Ram 1500 1999 Camaro Z28. Iron 6.0, G5X3 on a 116, GTO T-56, STS rear mount kit "Don't quote me boy cause I ain't said shit" - Eazy E

11-29-2011, 12:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
cj5.5 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Member # 96278 Location: Beside the point Posts: 522	Looks like a cool car. I like the lightweight front engine RWD idea. The co-op idea makes sense to me- hopefully goes better than the Saab deal. __________________ May the road rise up to meet you, and rains fall soft upon someone else.

11-29-2011, 01:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
kaiserdtm Wheeler Join Date: Nov 2010 Member # 175512 Location: Shreveport Posts: 243	I think a turbo version has real potential to compete with a few of the mid level sports cars out there. It sure has the fundamentals down and right. __________________ 2013 Ram 1500 1999 Camaro Z28. Iron 6.0, G5X3 on a 116, GTO T-56, STS rear mount kit "Don't quote me boy cause I ain't said shit" - Eazy E Last edited by kaiserdtm; 11-29-2011 at 01:28 PM.

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Nightshade Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40793 Location: Tri Shitties, WA Posts: 168	Looks a lot like the 350z in design. Performance looks fair but a turbo and better brakes along with gutting it a bit might make it more enjoyable. __________________ This space for rent

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CronusTRD Rock God Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11141 Location: MD Posts: 1,683 Blog Entries: 1	Looks like you have to be a double amputee to sit in the back seat. Why bother... __________________ Mike RcRocs 4.3 Toyota Jeep www.marylandcreepers.com www.rightcoast4x4.com

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Never Monday Drive slideways Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 81214 Location: Lanna, Jawja Posts: 3,250	somehow, light weight and 2600 lbs just don't go together :shrug:

11-29-2011, 01:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
clastic I aim to misbehave Join Date: Jan 2011 Member # 180649 Location: KSME Posts: 423	The Subie version is sexier (Which is par for Toyota. Take an awesome idea and water it down) There are only two Toyota Cars I've ever loved driving. 3rd Gen Celica and the 86-91 Supra. Everything else... Feh. Anyway, I hope this car works out and is reliable. Front engine, Rear drive, and a Boxer engine to boot? I'm all over that.

11-29-2011, 02:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
atblis Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 46937 Posts: 2,356	Get that up to 300 HP, and I am interested.

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yotasmob Displaced Hillbilly Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 42484 Location: Davis, CA Posts: 1,098	Why does Toyota need to get all and badge it as a Scion for the US market. Been waiting for this car for a long time, glad to see its going to be a reality one way or another. __________________ 1985 Toyota 4runner with the usual goodies.

11-29-2011, 05:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
trajan Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Member # 135453 Posts: 125	Looks like typical ricer garbage to me. Red-blooded Americans wouldn't be caught dead driving this.

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HonkIfPartsFallOff! Wheeler Join Date: Aug 2006 Member # 77435 Location: Western MA Posts: 301	It's going racing in the SuperGT GT300 class next year. output around 300hp. __________________ 1989 YJ ongoing project. SBC/60s/etc. never ending project 1989 XJ DD/weekend warrior RE 4.5/33s/welded rear What's up with my Avatar? CLICK HERE!!

11-29-2011, 07:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
reklund5 I wanna go wheeling. Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27179 Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 605	I've driven it. And it rocks Very well balanced little car- enough power to kick the back end out with a little clutch work and it's light enough to be predictable. Suspension is great stock but even better with a little firmer dampers and lowering springs as we had setup on a second car. It'll be fun to see what the aftermarket brings to it- I think it'll be a hoot with a few pounds of boost and some sticky tires... Ryan

11-29-2011, 07:47 PM	#19 (permalink)
Never Monday Drive slideways Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 81214 Location: Lanna, Jawja Posts: 3,250	Rugger will still hand you your ass

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Deezul Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 66238 Posts: 466	Under 200hp yay. At least even the v6 mustang(2011-2012) will EAT it __________________ Rally post #422 Last edited by Deezul; 11-29-2011 at 07:54 PM.

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devuurstorm Crazy College Kid Join Date: Nov 2009 Member # 145867 Location: New Jersey Posts: 80	looks like a 350z+a M3+ G35 had some baby and that is what was born. you will be seeing turbo kits for these pretty quickly and they have a nice look, i would get it in black,

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