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Old 02-15-2012, 09:57 AM   #101 (permalink)
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I got it again today.

I know they slow me down. When I'm on pandora, I can no longer send pics. It takes 5+ min to check my email. Youtube will NOT load....

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Old 02-15-2012, 09:58 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:42 AM   #103 (permalink)
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At&T is going zap the home users as well....(this is dated March 2011)

AT&T to cap U-Verse, DSL broadband services

A new report on Sunday states AT&T will soon introduce data caps to its wireline broadband subscribers nationwide. AT&T has confirmed the move, which will go into effect on May 2nd. The caps will be set at 150GB per month for DSL customers and 250GB for U-Verse subscribers. AT&T will charge $10 for every 50GB over the cap, though overages will not be charged until customers exceed the cap in three separate months over the life of an account. The carrier states that only 2% of DSL subscribers will be affected by the change, though it does not specify what percentage of its U-Verse subscribers might be affected. AT&T also confirmed that it will implement a notification system that will “proactively notify customers when they exceed 65%, 90% and 100% of the monthly usage allowance.”
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/14/att-to...band-services/

I see this going the same way Debit card fees went for Wells Fargo and BoA. They are going to roll them out to the wrong place and loose half their customers, especially since most UVerse plans don't have a contract. Hand to send out a bucket truck and run brand new line from the pole to my house, and brand new cable all in my house. would be a shame for them to start having contracts cancelled....
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:48 AM   #104 (permalink)
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This is why I use Sprint.

Coverage is less than that of AT&T or Verizon in rural areas, but in major cities its fine. I cancelled comcast at my house, and use my Evo4g as a hotspot for my laptops.


And this is an average month.


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Old 02-15-2012, 10:48 AM   #105 (permalink)
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How many gig is an average netflix movie?
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:55 AM   #106 (permalink)
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...AT&T dude told me you have the be in the top 5% of the users in your area.

So once those top 5% are knocked off the top, another 5% steps into it's place and no doubt will be targeted next. It's only a matter of time before 1GB/month is in the top 5%, which may be exactly what their goal is.

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Old 02-15-2012, 10:59 AM   #107 (permalink)
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I think netflix is about a gig an hour
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:16 AM   #108 (permalink)
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This is why I use Sprint.

Coverage is less than that of AT&T or Verizon in rural areas, but in major cities its fine. I cancelled comcast at my house, and use my Evo4g as a hotspot for my laptops.


And this is an average month.


How's Sprint's 4G working for you these days?
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:29 AM   #109 (permalink)
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Works fine, and is way faster than 3G. It just drains my battery so I rarely turn it on. Outside Denver though, I have no idea. I haven't tried it anywhere else.

Last year I was able to live stream the NCAA basketball tournament to my phone with it with no lag
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AT&T on data throttling: Blame yourselves

In an effort to justify its policies surrounding data service throttling for subscribers with unlimited smartphone data plans, AT&T on Tuesday issued a brief report regarding data usage on its nationwide wireless network. Senior EVP of AT&T technology and network operations John Donovan wrote on a company blog that data traffic on AT&T’s network has grown a staggering 20,000% over the past five years. Usage has doubled between 2010 and 2011 according to the executive, due in large part to the proliferation of smartphones. AT&T sold more smartphones in the fourth quarter of 2011 than in any other quarter in its history. And because its smartphone subscribers use so much data, AT&T seems to suggest it has no choice but to put measures such as data throttling in place. Read on for more.

“The growth is now driven primarily by smartphones,” the executive wrote on AT&T’s Innovation Space blog. “Add to that new customer additions and the continuing trend of upgrades from feature phones to smartphones, and you have a wireless data tsunami.”

While Donovan did not specifically address the recent resurgence of complaints surrounding AT&T’s throttling of unlimited data users, the timing of his blog post is no coincidence. AT&T’s questionable policy regarding unlimited data plans was brought back into the spotlight recently following a new wave of subscriber complaints. While AT&T currently offers a tiered 3GB smartphone data plan for $30 per month, unlimited data plan holders paying the same amount are often seeing their data speeds throttled — or slowed significantly in an effort to reduce network strain — after using less than 2GB of data in a single billing period.

Donovan offers no real solution, however he does stress AT&T’s continued investment in its network. “AT&T has invested more than $95 billion in its wireless and wireline networks over the past five years,” Donovan wrote. “In 2011, we invested $20 billion in our networks, and completed more than 150,000 wireless network improvements. And we expect to invest about $20 billion again in 2012 with a focus on wireless, including more 4G LTE deployment, the roll-out of distributed antenna systems in key venues across the U.S. and adding even more AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots to the nation’s largest Wi-Fi network.”

AT&T’s plan to address network issues by acquiring T-Mobile USA from Deutsche Telecom for $39 billion was canceled late last year after the United States Justice Department sued to block the deal.

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I switched from Verizon to Sprint a few months ago. I like Sprint so far, with one issue: holy hell is their data SLOOOOWWW.. I averaged around 1500kb/sec on VZW, with Sprint it's more like 300.

And 4G is nearly non existent.

But my bill was cut in half, so I only complain a little bit.
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no comment from the ceo. go figure.
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:33 AM   #114 (permalink)
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I switched from Verizon to Sprint a few months ago. I like Sprint so far, with one issue: holy hell is their data SLOOOOWWW.. I averaged around 1500kb/sec on VZW, with Sprint it's more like 300.

And 4G is nearly non existent.

But my bill was cut in half, so I only complain a little bit.
Ive heard that also that sprints data is slow. Kind what is keeping me from going with them.
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:42 AM   #115 (permalink)
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I think netflix is about a gig an hour
Depends on what you watch and what the speed of your connection telling netflix to hand out higher or lower quality display.

On my crappy wireless through verizon 45-min 1hr shows are about 200-300Mb.
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Bump. Some guy sued AT&T in small claims court over the throttling issue and won.

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SIMI VALLEY, Calif. (AP) -- When AT&T started slowing down the data service for his iPhone, Matt Spaccarelli, an unemployed truck driver and student, took the country's largest telecommunications company to small claims court. And won.

His award: $850.

Pro-tem Judge Russell Nadel found in favor of Spaccarelli in Ventura Superior Court in Simi Valley on Friday, saying it wasn't fair for the company to purposely slow down his iPhone, when it had sold him an "unlimited data" plan.

Spaccarelli could have many imitators. AT&T has some 17 million customers with "unlimited data" plans who can be subject to throttling. That's nearly half of its smartphone users. AT&T forbids them from consolidating their claims into a class action or taking them to a jury trial. That leaves small claims actions and arbitration.

Late last year, AT&T started slowing down data service for the top 5 percent of its smartphone subscribers with "unlimited" plans. It had warned that it would start doing so, but many subscribers have been surprised by how little data use it takes for throttling to kick in — often less than AT&T provides to those on limited or "tiered" plans.

Spaccarelli said his phone is being throttled after he's used 1.5 gigabytes to 2 gigabytes of data within a new billing cycle. Meanwhile, AT&T provides 3 gigabytes of data to subscribers on a tiered plan that costs the same — $30 per month.

When slowed down, the phone can still be used for calls and text messaging, but Web browsing is painfully slow, and video streaming doesn't work at all.
AT&T spokesman Marty Richter said the company will appeal the judge's ruling.
"At the end of the day, our contract governs our relationship with our customers," he said.

AT&T area sales manager Peter Hartlove, who represented the company before Nadel, declined to comment on the ruling. He argued in court that his employer has the right to modify or cancel customers' contracts if their data usage adversely affects the network.

Companies with as many potentially aggrieved customers as AT&T usually brace themselves for a class-action lawsuit. But last year, the Supreme Court upheld a clause in the Dallas-based company's subscriber contract that prohibits customers from taking their complaints to class actions or jury trials.

Arbitration and small-claims court cases are cheaper and faster than jury trials, but they force plaintiffs to appear in person and prepare their own statements. In a class-action suit, the work can be handled by one law firm on behalf of millions of people.

That means thousands — and possibly hundreds of thousands — of people who feel abused by AT&T's policy could seek to challenge the company, one by one, in arbitration or small claims court. The customer contract specifies that those who win an award from the company in arbitration that is greater than the company's pre-arbitration settlement offer will get at least $10,000. Spaccarelli picked the same amount for his claim, though AT&T's stipulation about a minimum award doesn't apply in small claims.

Nadel looked instead at the remaining 10 months in Spaccarelli's two-year contract with AT&T and estimated that he might pay $85 a month on average for using additional data. AT&T charges $10 for every extra gigabyte over 3 gigabytes.

Nadel said it's not fair for AT&T to make a promise to Spaccarelli when he buys the phone while burying terms in his contract that give the company the right to cut down data speeds.

Spaccarelli, 39, researched his case for a few months, and then spent three days putting together a binder of documents to bring to court.
"I need the money, but for me, this case is not about money at all," Spaccarelli. "You don't tell somebody 'you have unlimited' and then cut them off."

Spaccarelli didn't quite uphold his side of the customer contract, and that's one reason his data usage was high. He used the iPhone to provide a link to the Internet for his iPad tablet, a setup known as "tethering." AT&T doesn't allow tethering unless customers pay extra for it, which Spaccarelli didn't do. It detected his tethering last year, and switched him from the "unlimited" plan to a limited one. He complained, and got his "unlimited" plan reinstated.

Even with the tethering, Spaccarelli's data usage wasn't excessive, he said — about 5 gigabytes per month. AT&T's Hartlove told Nadel about the tethering, and Spaccarelli admitted to it.

Earlier this month, a Southern California woman won a small-claims action against Honda over the gas mileage she got out of her Civic hybrid car. She was awarded $9,867. Meanwhile, a pending class action against Honda over the same issue would net Civic owners a few hundred dollars each. The plaintiff, Heather Peters, is an ex-lawyer who had opted out of the settlement.

AT&T's throttling of "unlimited" data comes as it tries to deal with limited capacity on its wireless network. When the iPhone was new, AT&T had ample capacity on its network, and wanted to lure customers with the peace of mind offered by unlimited plans. Now, a majority of AT&T subscribers on contract-based plans have smartphones, and the proportion is growing every month. That's putting a big load on AT&T's network.

Verizon Wireless and T-Mobile USA also throttle users, but their policies are gentler. Verizon only throttles if the specific cell tower a "heavy user" subscriber's phone is communicating with is congested at that moment. T-Mobile's throttling levels are higher for the same price, and the levels are spelled out ahead of time. AT&T subscribers have no way of knowing if they'll be throttled before a warning message drops in. If they keep using their phones, throttling kicks in a few days later.
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Verizon aand I are haveing a go around. They say I used 7g's last month. DAMN you the slacker radio. So I'm a 5%'er too. Fuckers. It's the only internet I can get out in BFE.So when they knock me down it bout kills me. They start out all cheerful with me, but after 20 minutes of going around, not so much. Have a hard time going 4g thinking the service would be any better.
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:38 AM   #118 (permalink)
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Well, a precedent has been set in the courts. How many small claims cases will it take to get the class action ruling overturned?
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:06 AM   #120 (permalink)
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Bump. Now there's a limit. 3gigs for 3g phones, 5gigs for 4g LTE phones. Crap I doubt my HTC inspire is LTE. I'll keep streaming radio though.

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