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daddytall · 03-30-2012, 06:53 AM

After my daughters epic battle, and win, with cancer we got a family dog 2 years ago. Scooter is the first dog I have ever owned as a adult. I thought I hated dogs but it turns out that some of them are the most awesome pets in the world, I will never be without a dog again.

Scooter was a rescue dog that we got when he was right around a year old. From the get go Scooter has been great, loves people, doesn't bark, is not aggressive to the point you could take the food out of his mouth without any worry. He learns tricks like roll over, high five, sit, etc. as quickly as he can figure out what you want him to do.

His only "problem" is when I let him off leash he sometimes goes into his own "I must smell this spot" and will not come when I call him. He acts like he can't hear or see me at all while he continues to smell anything that looks like another dog could of pissed on it. This is only a problem for 10-20% of the time we are out as he mostly sticks close to me.

So wtf do I do to correct this issue? The dog is absolutely awesome and willing to please, I just need to shake him of this "I'm ignoring you" feature. I'm not against buying him a shock collar, but then again I don't want to spend $$$ on something I don't need. WTF do I do to get this dog to come the first time, every time?

jensenkennels · 03-30-2012, 07:00 AM

The solution is 'light' collar conditioning.

Mo · 03-30-2012, 07:13 AM

damn flatbillers and their evil pitbulls...

Our great pyr does that. well, except the learning tricks part.

emiller22207 · 03-30-2012, 07:21 AM

Get a long nylon rope (100 ft.) tied to his collar and let him roam. Once he gets to smelling and ignoring you, draw up the slack in the rope, call him, wait a second, and give the rope a good, short tug to get his attention--a good enough tug to pull his nose off whatever he's sniffing. Repeat over the course of a week and two and he should be cured. At least, it's always worked for me.

MT4Runner · 03-30-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by emiller22207

Get a long nylon rope (100 ft.) tied to his collar and let him roam. Once he gets to smelling and ignoring you, draw up the slack in the rope, call him, wait a second, and give the rope a good, short tug to get his attention--a good enough tug to pull his nose off whatever he's sniffing. Repeat over the course of a week and two and he should be cured. At least, it's always worked for me.

^^^^
This.

Or borrow an electric collar.
You don't need to send him to his knees. Often just a tingle is enough to remind him that the Alpha Male has "long arms"!

memphisrain · 03-30-2012, 08:09 AM

Our lab does this, and I've found that calling with something he absolutely cannot ignore, is working. In our case, we use a whistle like a playground or gym teacher uses to get his attention. We've trained him to come when he hears it, and we reinforce with a treat when he gets to us. It seems to be loud/obnoxious enough that it breaks the fixation on things. The sound also carries very well, and since we walk in the woods a lot, he can be out of sight and will still return when the thing is blown.

I imagine you could do the same thing with shock collar, but a whistle is like $1.50 at Wally World.

Jake

Crash440 · 03-30-2012, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by emiller22207

Get a long nylon rope (100 ft.) tied to his collar and let him roam. Once he gets to smelling and ignoring you, draw up the slack in the rope, call him, wait a second, and give the rope a good, short tug to get his attention--a good enough tug to pull his nose off whatever he's sniffing. Repeat over the course of a week and two and he should be cured. At least, it's always worked for me.

yeah this I agree. also he's a lab mix treats will work great

pull in him "good boy" and give him a treat each time and he'll never ignore you again

1990GT50 · 03-30-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by emiller22207

Get a long nylon rope (100 ft.) tied to his collar and let him roam. Once he gets to smelling and ignoring you, draw up the slack in the rope, call him, wait a second, and give the rope a good, short tug to get his attention--a good enough tug to pull his nose off whatever he's sniffing. Repeat over the course of a week and two and he should be cured. At least, it's always worked for me.

x10. this is the solution.

rugger · 03-30-2012, 09:06 AM

That is a good dog. I'm pretty cautious around dogs that I don't know, but I had my face in his within about an hour of being around him. He's a good looking dog, too.

daddytall · 03-30-2012, 02:55 PM

Scooter is a good dog. I'll try the 100' rope thing and see if that works. Makes sense, I'll report back in two weeks.

Cue-Ball · 03-30-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by emiller22207

Get a long nylon rope (100 ft.) tied to his collar and let him roam. Once he gets to smelling and ignoring you, draw up the slack in the rope, call him, wait a second, and give the rope a good, short tug to get his attention--a good enough tug to pull his nose off whatever he's sniffing. Repeat over the course of a week and two and he should be cured. At least, it's always worked for me.

This. I employed the command "Leave It!" in conjunction with this and now I can use the command sans leash with no problem.

bmpregler · 03-30-2012, 04:42 PM

We bought a E collar for our American Bulldog. Did some basic "bending" training with him and now all it takes is the praise tone to let him know what to do. He may get the buzz once a week, if that. Also he is out in the yard with us 4-5 hours everyday so he has distractions around a lot. The training took maybe 3 hours tops. He is a changed beast.

03-30-2012, 06:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
daddytall Granite Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 74936 Location: Sunnyvale Trailer Park Posts: 609	Come Scooter, come! After my daughters epic battle, and win, with cancer we got a family dog 2 years ago. Scooter is the first dog I have ever owned as a adult. I thought I hated dogs but it turns out that some of them are the most awesome pets in the world, I will never be without a dog again. Scooter was a rescue dog that we got when he was right around a year old. From the get go Scooter has been great, loves people, doesn't bark, is not aggressive to the point you could take the food out of his mouth without any worry. He learns tricks like roll over, high five, sit, etc. as quickly as he can figure out what you want him to do. His only "problem" is when I let him off leash he sometimes goes into his own "I must smell this spot" and will not come when I call him. He acts like he can't hear or see me at all while he continues to smell anything that looks like another dog could of pissed on it. This is only a problem for 10-20% of the time we are out as he mostly sticks close to me. So wtf do I do to correct this issue? The dog is absolutely awesome and willing to please, I just need to shake him of this "I'm ignoring you" feature. I'm not against buying him a shock collar, but then again I don't want to spend $$$ on something I don't need. WTF do I do to get this dog to come the first time, every time? Attached Images __________________ help Zach out http://www.zachgyost.com/ Cancer Sucks My daughter kicks ass YouTube - kayla story about her family http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kaylaarmstrong

03-30-2012, 08:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
memphisrain Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Member # 109061 Location: Calumet, MI Posts: 44	Our lab does this, and I've found that calling with something he absolutely cannot ignore, is working. In our case, we use a whistle like a playground or gym teacher uses to get his attention. We've trained him to come when he hears it, and we reinforce with a treat when he gets to us. It seems to be loud/obnoxious enough that it breaks the fixation on things. The sound also carries very well, and since we walk in the woods a lot, he can be out of sight and will still return when the thing is blown. I imagine you could do the same thing with shock collar, but a whistle is like $1.50 at Wally World. Jake Last edited by memphisrain; 03-30-2012 at 08:11 AM.

03-30-2012, 09:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
rugger Rock God Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67681 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,589	That is a good dog. I'm pretty cautious around dogs that I don't know, but I had my face in his within about an hour of being around him. He's a good looking dog, too. __________________ SB 327 Miata build thread

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daddytall Granite Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 74936 Location: Sunnyvale Trailer Park Posts: 609	Scooter is a good dog. I'll try the 100' rope thing and see if that works. Makes sense, I'll report back in two weeks. __________________ help Zach out http://www.zachgyost.com/ Cancer Sucks My daughter kicks ass YouTube - kayla story about her family http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kaylaarmstrong

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03-30-2012, 07:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
jensenkennels DogTalker Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 52202 Location: The High Plains Posts: 2,894	The solution is 'light' collar conditioning.

03-30-2012, 07:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mo Everyday is Tuesday. Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 47 Location: Lizzy, CO Posts: 15,649	damn flatbillers and their evil pitbulls... Our great pyr does that. well, except the learning tricks part.

03-30-2012, 07:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
emiller22207 Wheeler Join Date: Jul 2008 Member # 116537 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 239	Get a long nylon rope (100 ft.) tied to his collar and let him roam. Once he gets to smelling and ignoring you, draw up the slack in the rope, call him, wait a second, and give the rope a good, short tug to get his attention--a good enough tug to pull his nose off whatever he's sniffing. Repeat over the course of a week and two and he should be cured. At least, it's always worked for me.

03-30-2012, 04:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
bmpregler Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Member # 168660 Location: Claremore, OK Posts: 153	We bought a E collar for our American Bulldog. Did some basic "bending" training with him and now all it takes is the praise tone to let him know what to do. He may get the buzz once a week, if that. Also he is out in the yard with us 4-5 hours everyday so he has distractions around a lot. The training took maybe 3 hours tops. He is a changed beast.