What would you do (DD tech) - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > Miscellaneous > General Chit-Chat
Notices

Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-08-2012, 11:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member # 46933
Location: Falconpunch, VA
Posts: 2,511
What would you do (DD tech)

So, the wife's Tahoe crapped out about 7 months ago. I parked it, and bought her an Excursion as I did not have the time to mess with it.

Fast forward to today. I pulled the head, and found that it had dropped a valve. The valve pierced the piston, bent 2 rods, and gouged up the head. The cylinder wall is fine though.

Here is my conundrum: Should I sell as-is, or fix and get more money/use out of it?

I don't really have the time to tear it down and put it back together. The KBB is about $8k (2002 LS) and I was thinking about putting it up for $4k needs motor. I can probably drop the pan, change the piston, and do a junkyard head for under $500, or get a junkyard longblock for a couple hundred more. It all comes down to time though. I don't owe anything on it, the interior is still nice (as is the body), but I am working on a gravel driveway, and need to get it done quick.

What would you do?

Oh, and Happy Zombie Day!
__________________
RedBullJeep: Once a head gets sloppy side to side, it makes the cradling a little less consistant.
Boheefus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 11:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Member # 211939
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 157
You can get a running takeout for pretty cheap. If its worth your time to replace the engine, then I would do it. If not, I would just junk it.
Killroy1942 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 11:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
montecarlo31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Member # 117771
Location: Communist Republic of Texas
Posts: 3,332
If that were mine I'd pull the engine and swap in a LQ9 or LQ4 depending on what I can find. Then I'd rock it for a couple more 100K.

My .02 cents. I am cheap and it sounds like a good core to me. You couldn't pick up a cheap DD for 1,200 (which is what you can get a LQ9 for and freshen it up).
montecarlo31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 11:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
Whatever VS sez
 
Roc Doc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Member # 20631
Location: Las Vegas, Hell
Posts: 8,193
Send it to Texas. Camerogeeenyus has great plans to remedy these situations.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Other Websites
Pirate4x4 is nothing but a bunch of assholes, stay away.
Quote:
Originally Posted by '51plymouth View Post
Fuck you Other Websites, you just don't know. This place is awesome.
Roc Doc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 11:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member # 46933
Location: Falconpunch, VA
Posts: 2,511
Not a matter of being worth my time, just a matter of having time to do it.
__________________
RedBullJeep: Once a head gets sloppy side to side, it makes the cradling a little less consistant.
Boheefus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 11:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
Registered User
 
ky scrambled's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member # 85771
Location: Minnachoada
Posts: 2,323
buy a 6.0 liter Ferd
__________________
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
ky scrambled is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 11:32 AM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
ky scrambled's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member # 85771
Location: Minnachoada
Posts: 2,323
So yer Tahoe stopped working and instead of fixing it you bought an Excursion?
__________________
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
ky scrambled is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 11:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
247pia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Member # 174055
Location: Chandler, IN
Posts: 569
Quote:
Originally Posted by ky scrambled View Post
So yer Tahoe stopped working and instead of fixing it you bought an Excursion?
My thoughts
247pia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 11:51 AM   #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Member # 75114
Posts: 1,225
I will give you tree fiddy for it.
keeptahoewhite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 11:52 AM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
ky scrambled's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member # 85771
Location: Minnachoada
Posts: 2,323
Quote:
Originally Posted by keeptahoewhite View Post
I will give you tree fiddy for it.
keep outta here you goddamn lochness monster!!
__________________
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
ky scrambled is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 12:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
Pirate4x4 Addict!
 
Beat95YJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Member # 22176
Location: Redondo Beach
Posts: 9,662
Quote:
Originally Posted by ky scrambled View Post
buy a 6.0 liter Ferd
4bt. Always the go to answer.
__________________
I can break a steel ball in a rubber room!

Beat95YJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 12:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
Granite Guru
 
Jules083's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Member # 123683
Location: Richmond, Ohio
Posts: 764
I'd probably find a complete motor, either junkyard, Craigslist, whatever, and swap the whole thing out. Drive it or sell it after that. It's way easier to sell a running vehicle than a blown up one. You said it yourself that it's worth 8k running, 4k blown up. Motor should be under a grand. That's at least 2k in your pocket, maybe 3 if you find the right buyer.
Jules083 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 01:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
OSHA Safety
 
Camarogenius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Member # 49232
Location: Longview, TX
Posts: 2,284
Send a message via Yahoo to Camarogenius
Don't you have teenagers rapidly approaching driverdom? Fix it, let them drive it, and use it as a tool to hang over their heads if they misbehave.

OH! and those should be sodium filled valves, so if the valve is in more than one pieces, toss it into a bucket of water for entertainment.
__________________
SECEDE!

If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.
Camarogenius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 01:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
Granite Guru
 
kc8ksg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Member # 135367
Location: WV
Posts: 962
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jules083 View Post
I'd probably find a complete motor, either junkyard, Craigslist, whatever, and swap the whole thing out. Drive it or sell it after that. It's way easier to sell a running vehicle than a blown up one. You said it yourself that it's worth 8k running, 4k blown up. Motor should be under a grand. That's at least 2k in your pocket, maybe 3 if you find the right buyer.
This x2

With the amount of time you waste with lowballing craigslisters offering you $1500 you could swap a junkyard motor in it and have sold it for $7-8k.
kc8ksg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 01:51 PM   #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member # 46933
Location: Falconpunch, VA
Posts: 2,511
Quote:
Originally Posted by ky scrambled View Post
So yer Tahoe stopped working and instead of fixing it you bought an Excursion?
Yup. We needed a bigger SUV any way. The event just made us go out and get one sooner.

I am still on the fence. $3k more would be nice, but my work schedule is quickly filling up, and I have to get the boat in the water too. The female child is going to get something else to drive. I still have a couple months on that.
__________________
RedBullJeep: Once a head gets sloppy side to side, it makes the cradling a little less consistant.
Boheefus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 01:55 PM   #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
ky scrambled's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member # 85771
Location: Minnachoada
Posts: 2,323
you dont sound like a person who is need of 3 grand...sell it and move on since you have already made up yer mind.
__________________
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
ky scrambled is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 02:01 PM   #17 (permalink)
Registered User
 
WiCK3D_SiX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Member # 201740
Location: South Central PA
Posts: 136
Search Duraburb on youtube. This is what should be done.

Sent from my DROIDX
WiCK3D_SiX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 02:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
Rock God
 
supersize75k5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Member # 29341
Location: gilbert az
Posts: 1,837
Quote:
Originally Posted by montecarlo31 View Post
If that were mine I'd pull the engine and swap in a LQ9 or LQ4 depending on what I can find. Then I'd rock it for a couple more 100K.

My .02 cents. I am cheap and it sounds like a good core to me. You couldn't pick up a cheap DD for 1,200 (which is what you can get a LQ9 for and freshen it up).

Gee there is only wiring, exhaust, emissions, trans hook up, motor mounts, the t-case if its a 4x4' rad hoses, and a slew of others.


So just how many dead projects are in your driveway that you underestimated
supersize75k5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 02:30 PM   #19 (permalink)
Registered User
 
ky scrambled's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member # 85771
Location: Minnachoada
Posts: 2,323
Quote:
Originally Posted by supersize75k5 View Post
So just how many dead projects are in your driveway that you underestimated
I can answer that for myself and that answer is ...ALL OF EM
__________________
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
ky scrambled is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 02:45 PM   #20 (permalink)
Rock God
 
intensesupernova's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Member # 44281
Location: \(_o)/
Posts: 1,466
Send a message via AIM to intensesupernova
Is your time worth the extra couple grand you could get if you swapped motors?
intensesupernova is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 03:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Member # 84067
Location: Islamorada
Posts: 424
Quote:
Originally Posted by Camarogenius View Post
OH! and those should be sodium filled valves, so if the valve is in more than one pieces, toss it into a bucket of water for entertainment.
Unless someone put in zo6 valves then no...no they are not sodium filled.
moggie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 03:08 PM   #22 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
montecarlo31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Member # 117771
Location: Communist Republic of Texas
Posts: 3,332
Quote:
Originally Posted by supersize75k5 View Post
Gee there is only wiring, exhaust, emissions, trans hook up, motor mounts, the t-case if its a 4x4' rad hoses, and a slew of others.


So just how many dead projects are in your driveway that you underestimated
hummm 2002 Tahoe...let's see, oh yeah, same engine setup. So no he doesn't have to change anything, it's a direct swap. I can pull and reinstall a LSx truck engine (in a 4x4) in under 5 hours...ask me I've had to do it.


I'd do the swap no questions asked.....and I have zero projects incomplete.

BTW sodium filled is only on Z06 in that vintage LSx engine.

Last edited by montecarlo31; 04-08-2012 at 03:08 PM.
montecarlo31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 03:22 PM   #23 (permalink)
Mo
Everyday is Tuesday.
 
Mo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Member # 47
Location: Lizzy, CO
Posts: 15,749
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boheefus View Post
Yup. We needed a bigger SUV any way. The event just made us go out and get one sooner.

I am still on the fence. $3k more would be nice, but my work schedule is quickly filling up, and I have to get the boat in the water too. The female child is going to get something else to drive. I still have a couple months on that.
you could pay a shop a grand to swap it, and still net $2k more in your pocket.
Mo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 04:31 PM   #24 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member # 46933
Location: Falconpunch, VA
Posts: 2,511
Quote:
Originally Posted by intensesupernova View Post
Is your time worth the extra couple grand you could get if you swapped motors?
Depends. I know that I can make a profit, if I swap motors, but it is all net anyway, as it has been paid off forever (we are the original owners)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo View Post
you could pay a shop a grand to swap it, and still net $2k more in your pocket.
See above. I have a couple of buddies with full on home shops. I was thinking of tossing them $500 and a case of beer to help me out.

I am a Yota guy, so I lack some of the special tools (fuel line releases, etc.) but I could do the work if time were no object. It really all boils down to aggravation factor at this point. The extra money would be nice, but is not necessary.

Thanks for the input. I still have no idea what I am going to do
__________________
RedBullJeep: Once a head gets sloppy side to side, it makes the cradling a little less consistant.
Boheefus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 04:59 PM   #25 (permalink)
Mo
Everyday is Tuesday.
 
Mo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Member # 47
Location: Lizzy, CO
Posts: 15,749
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boheefus View Post
I have a couple of buddies with full on home shops. I was thinking of tossing them $500 and a case of beer to help me out.
this is the way to go.
Mo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.