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Old 04-12-2012, 08:05 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I love the hypocracy of people who get twisted up over "murdering" some people but have no issue murdering others
Killing tiny humans who have not committed a capital crime may well be murder, if not by legal definition.

Killing humans who have committed a capital crime is not murder by any definition.

No hypocrisy involved.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:06 AM   #27 (permalink)
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killing tiny humans who have not committed a capital crime may well be murder, if not by legal definition.

Killing humans who have committed a capital crime is not murder by any definition.

No hypocrisy involved.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:10 AM   #28 (permalink)
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This state has no balls at all. I was amazed when Hayes and Komisarjevski got the death penalty for beating raping and then tying a mother and 2 daughters to their beds and setting the house on fire.

Everyone was crying that they had bad childhoods and thats what made them into rapists and killers.

But its also rediculous that they can sit on death row for the rest of their lives as long as they keep filing appeals. they should be taken out behind the courthouse and shot.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:16 AM   #29 (permalink)
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:Gary: using a 10th amendment argument?
Unlike you Brian I actually believe in COTUS and all that it entails, not just the parts I like the way you do.
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As much as it pains me to defend CG, I think he feels like I do. All things considered, most of these death row inmates are animals. They really deserve not much more than a bullet and a hole. My conscience is clear that they must be allowed the Constitutional protections, but that doesn't mean I have have to agree with that either. Jeff just rages against it here.
My news story quotes have been conveniently and quietly ignored. How do you rationalize innocent people on death row, some who may have been executed, oops?

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Killing tiny humans who have not committed a capital crime may well be murder, if not by legal definition.

Killing humans who have committed a capital crime is not murder by any definition.

No hypocrisy involved.
In your opinion

I've been pro-death penalty my whole life. Just recently I have had nagging thoughts on the subject

I know there's vocal PBB members who have similar feelings, would love them to speak up but I imagine they are avoiding the inevitable trainwreck
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Unlike you Brian I actually believe in COTUS and all that it entails, not just the parts I like the way you do.
we've proven that a lie numerous times... but thanks for the levity.
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My news story quotes have been conveniently and quietly ignored. How do you rationalize innocent people on death row, some who may have been executed, oops?
Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. If necessary, review cases where DNA may prove exculpatory and zap the rest. I've seen a few guys go free upon further examination of the evidence. None of them were angels to start with. With the science we have now, the odds of someone on death row being innocent are getting smaller and smaller. Take Major Hasan. No amount of evidence is going to prove he didn't kill those people. Hang him high.
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we've proven that a lie numerous times... but thanks for the levity.
No, you just have deluded yourself into thinking that.
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My news story quotes have been conveniently and quietly ignored. How do you rationalize innocent people on death row, some who may have been executed, oops?
How do you rationalize an innocent person spending their life in prison? Same argument can be made, I guess.

I'm pro capital punishment, though.

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I do find it troubling that there is a large group of people who lable one as a "choice" and ignore the "choice" the supposed criminal made when it comes to committing a capital offense. But that's the society we live in these days...


"innocents are guilty and guilty are innocent" Hell... look at Zimmerman.
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How do you rationalize an innocent person spending their life in prison? Same argument can be made, I guess.

I'm pro capital punishment, though.



I do find it troubling that there is a large group of people who lable one as a "choice" and ignore the "choice" the supposed criminal made when it comes to committing a capital offense. But that's the society we live in these days...


"innocents are guilty and guilty are innocent" Hell... look at Zimmerman.
Read my black text, I'm pro-death penalty, doesn't mean I have moments of doubt though

And re spending life in prison, obvious answer is as long as you are alive you have a chance to prove your innocence.

I guess I agree with Ron White " If more than three people saw you do what you did you don't sit on death row for 15 years Jack, you go straight to the front of the line."
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Read my black text, I'm pro-death penalty, doesn't mean I have moments of doubt though

And re spending life in prison, obvious answer is as long as you are alive you have a chance to prove your innocence.

I guess I agree with Ron White " If more than three people saw you do what you did you don't sit on death row for 15 years Jack, you go straight to the front of the line."
I read your black text... yer a wuss for hiding it.
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I read your black text... yer a wuss for hiding it.
it didn't contribute to my trolling
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I guess I agree with Ron White " If more than three people saw you do what you did you don't sit on death row for 15 years Jack, you go straight to the front of the line."
What is the legal purpose of multiple appeals when there are three or more witnesses? To find some legal loophole that may only keep you in jail? I agree with Ron White. Three or more saw you and you have been convicted, please come sit in this nice wooden chair.
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I guess I agree with Ron White " If more than three people saw you do what you did you don't sit on death row for 15 years Jack, you go straight to the front of the line."
What is the legal purpose of multiple appeals when there are three or more witnesses? To find some legal loophole that may only keep you in jail? I agree with Ron White. Three or more saw you and you have been convicted, please come sit in this nice wooden chair.
That's what I said
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How many of you have actually lain on the execution table? I balked at letting them strap my arms down. No doubt those fuckers would have turned the lights out and hauled ass.
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The death penalty costs significantly more, has a negligible effect (if any) on violent crime, and will eventually be abolished anyway as the political spectrum shifts. This sounds like a wasteful government program to me.

If you're willing to overlook the logistics of the issue to prioritize your own personal view of morality - does it matter that executing the occasional innocent person is a statistical inevitability?
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The death penalty costs significantly more, has a negligible effect (if any) on violent crime,
I've always believed this would change if it was used more.
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I am pro-death penalty in theory.

In practice, it's a waste of money. Odds of surviving death row are better than surviving on the streets that many on death row are from. Where is the deterrent?
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You really are that stupid aren't you? Sending people through multiple appeals trials is A LOT more expesnive than keeping then locked up for their lifetime.
huh? So people who get life without parole don't make appeals?
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Killing tiny humans who have not committed a capital crime may well be murder, if not by legal definition.

Killing humans who have committed a capital crime is not murder by any definition.

No hypocrisy involved.
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Under the Common Law, or law made by courts, murder was the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought.
Then by Connecticut law Killing a human who has committed a capital crime is BY DEFINITION murder.
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Unlike you Brian I actually believe in COTUS and all that it entails, not just the parts I like the way you do.
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