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Old 05-08-2012, 09:53 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Huh, so all HDMI cables are the same???


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Please tell me you don't think there are "fawesome" HDMI cables... IMHO, a cable is a cable... Go ahead and pay big $$ for an HDMI cable if you wish.
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:17 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Please tell me you don't think there are "fawesome" HDMI cables... IMHO, a cable is a cable... Go ahead and pay big $$ for an HDMI cable if you wish.
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No they are not.

I got 14$ HDMI cables from Walmart and it made the picture worse than my Red, Blue, Green monster cables. I took them back and am still using my "old" monster stuff.
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No they are not.

I got 14$ HDMI cables from Walmart and it made the picture worse than my Red, Blue, Green monster cables. I took them back and am still using my "old" monster stuff.
I guess anything can be made so poorly that it sucks.

However, an HDMI cable delivers a digital signal. Ones and zeros.

It just has to get there. It isn't like an analog signal, where the cable can make a big difference. If the connection is good from one end to the other, then you have a good signal, that's it.

You had a faulty cable.
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The quality of the cables actually matters....except when they're $1.82/ea
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:34 AM   #31 (permalink)
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yes, you can technically run into latency issues with cheap cables, but at 6' length it's a non-issue.
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I think what makes a "crappy" cable is usually the connectors. Between all of our offices and our test boxes, I bet I've installed 50 tvs or more, using the cheapest hdmi cables I could find at the time. I think I've had one bad one, and it was because the connectors were out of spec and a little sloppy. I could move the cable around at the connector and see the picture quality come and go. For $2 you could just buy 3 times as many as you needed and not worry about a faulty one.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:45 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Great buy. I needed a few more and bought some extras. Doesn't matter if they're shitty, I didn't spend more than $6 so it's worth it.
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Old 05-08-2012, 12:04 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Please tell me you don't think there are "fawesome" HDMI cables... IMHO, a cable is a cable... Go ahead and pay big $$ for an HDMI cable if you wish.
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And in my opinion motor oil is motor oil, yet you sell the most expensive motor oil on the planet.

There are differences. You may not have equipment that will show a difference, but there are differences.
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That guy has category 2 cables as well for full 1080p pass thru. $2.14 and still free shipping for Yankees.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...n=&s=&v=glance

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A few years ago I started a thread asking about HDMI cables and everyone on here told me to order the cheapest ones I could find because "they are all the same". I ordered from Amazon and the cables worked fine for about 2 weeks then I started having issues with picture quality then no picture.

I went to Wal Mart and spent $20 on some name brand cables that felt much better put together. They have worked fine for years now.

I hope you all have better luck than I did.
I've used "High Quality" all the way down to "6 dollars for a 3 pack of 6 footers" and they've all performed exactly the same. If you had picture quality issues, you either had a cable that was not seated properly or it was SO cheap that one of the wires in it broke. Go spend another buck eighty nine and you're good.
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No they are not.

I got 14$ HDMI cables from Walmart and it made the picture worse than my Red, Blue, Green monster cables. I took them back and am still using my "old" monster stuff.
This picture quality issue I'd blame the equipment first. The HDMI in that piece of equipment may have been implemented poorly because it was a new standard, and the Component connections might have been great because it was well established technology.

A lot of equipment has different signal qualities with different connections, even though they're SUPPOSED to both be the best available signal.
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Great buy. I needed a few more and bought some extras. Doesn't matter if they're shitty, I didn't spend more than $6 so it's worth it.
My new marketing strategy:

Price something so high that you can discount it 99% and get everyone and all their buddies to buy it since it's such a good deal.

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That guy has category 2 cables as well for full 1080p pass thru. $2.14 and still free shipping for Yankees.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...n=&s=&v=glance

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Nice! Ordered a few of those too
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And in my opinion motor oil is motor oil, yet you sell the most expensive motor oil on the planet.

There are differences. You may not have equipment that will show a difference, but there are differences.
I guess it's all a matter of opinion, but I've never had an issue with "cheap" hdmi cables. I have had issue with cheap oil and filters. I still have a lot of people that believe in the "most expensive" oil. I don't know a lot of people that would willing pay $166 for 6 feet of HDMI cable though... Unless they are complete morons.
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And they're still making money on these things. HDMI cables are literally the biggest ripoff in the world. The margins on them at Radio Shack or Best Buy are like 300%.
there actually are major differences between HDMI cables, although I agree they are still overpriced. Obviously the transmitting materials between the two ends differ in size etc... as you look into nicer cables.
For example, we do installs where customers want to have their receiver on one wall with the TV 40 feet away. When we use "cheaper" HDMI cords, you get a poor or non-existent signal. When we replace the cheap cable with a quality one, the 40ft distance is fine.

...not that any of this matters for a 6ft, but valuable info nonetheless
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More important to our discussion, it means that when something goes wrong, it goes really wrong. It's often said that with an HDMI signal, you either get everything and it's perfect, or it isn't perfect and you get nothing. In fact, I've said this. If you're getting an image that looks correct, and there are no dropouts in the audio or video, then you're getting everything that's being sent. If the cable is faulty, or it's a really long run with an under-built cable, most of the time you'll just get nothing. No picture at all.
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I've used "High Quality" all the way down to "6 dollars for a 3 pack of 6 footers" and they've all performed exactly the same. If you had picture quality issues, you either had a cable that was not seated properly or it was SO cheap that one of the wires in it broke. Go spend another buck eighty nine and you're good.
I already waited a few days for the "cheap" cables, I didn't want to wait another 3-4 days for a replacement. I get the "cable is a cable is a cable" and agree to a point. I would never by the $90 superultrauberadamantium cables Best Buy tried to fuck you with. But I think in some cases the cost cutting to get them so cheap affects quality. So I am happy in the middle with my $20 cables that I can feel a difference with.
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Kinda of funny cause you link specifically says "if they are an under built cable you will not get anything at all" which to me says they are not all built equally.
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Abso Fucking lootely. Anyone that spends more than $10 on hdmi cables is an idiot.

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Kinda of funny cause you link specifically says "if they are an under built cable you will not get anything at all" which to me says they are not all built equally.

That is a funny way to weasel around the fact- Ill have to pass that on to my lawyer buddy

The fact is, there are differences. I do all types of low voltage cabling as well as AV and have seen the difference with my own eyes. You dont always get what you pay for but in this case, you can be sure the $2 HDMI cord will have lackluster performance.

I am probably more broke than most of us but I guess I still have to say it- why have a 600+ $$ TV and spend $2 on the cables to hook it up?
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That is a funny way to weasel around the fact- Ill have to pass that on to my lawyer buddy

The fact is, there are differences. I do all types of low voltage cabling as well as AV and have seen the difference with my own eyes. You dont always get what you pay for but in this case, you can be sure the $2 HDMI cord will have lackluster performance.

I am probably more broke than most of us but I guess I still have to say it- why have a 600+ $$ TV and spend $2 on the cables to hook it up?
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You're nuts. The ONLY time you should worry about the quality of your HDMI cables is if they get to 50+ feet. At 6 feet (what 99% of people need), there is no way there's a difference.
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That guy has category 2 cables as well for full 1080p pass thru. $2.14 and still free shipping for Yankees.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...n=&s=&v=glance

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I guess anything can be made so poorly that it sucks.

However, an HDMI cable delivers a digital signal. Ones and zeros.

It just has to get there. It isn't like an analog signal, where the cable can make a big difference. If the connection is good from one end to the other, then you have a good signal, that's it.

You had a faulty cable.
So what's the difference with these HDMI cables? Why do some say they are 3D capable and some not?

If they are all the same shouldn't a cheap cable be able to do all the 3D fancy stuff too?

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Another place to check for inexpensive pricing is www.meritline.com

Depending on the item a lot of it ships from china but they do also have a US warehouse. Most all items other than clearance are free shipping.

I've bought from them for years and never had problems with service.
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