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Old 05-13-2013, 12:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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finally a Dem tells the truth in Jersey. Confiscate guns

sucks when someone catches you telling the truth on an open mike

CONFISCATION! NJ Senators CAUGHT Mocking Gun Owners Committee Meeting May 9, 2013 - YouTube

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Gun confiscation hopeful Loretta Weinberg joins fellow disarmament advocates Cory Booker, Barack Obama and Jon Corzine on 2009 campaign trail. Their goal is New Jersey-style "gun control" from coast-to-coast leading to confiscation.
Gun confiscation hopeful Loretta Weinberg joins fellow disarmament advocates Cory Booker, Barack Obama and Jon Corzine on 2009 campaign trail. Their goal is New Jersey-style "gun control" from coast-to-coast leading to confiscation.

A microphone left on after the gavel fell at a New Jersey Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee hearing Thursday shows the “true view” of some of the senators toward gun owners, and provides proof that gun confiscation is a goal on which they agree, the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs revealed in an email to members and supporters today. The group is the official NRA state association.

“The discussion that was caught, apparently among several senators and staff, is outrageous, and reveals legislators’ true view of gun owners,” ANJRPC reports.

“The discussion appears to be among Senator Loretta Weinberg (D37), Senator Sandra Cunningham (D31), Senator Linda Greenstein (D14), and at least one member of Senate Democratic staff,” the gun group’s email explains. A You Tube video of the “off the record” conversation is embedded in this column’s sidebar.
When they think they're alone, they mock gun owners and plot confiscation.
CONFISCATION! NJ Senators CAUGHT Mocking Gun Owners Committee

Among the lines heard in the recording:

"We needed a bill that was going to confiscate, confiscate, confiscate.”

"They don’t care about the bad guys. All they want to do is have their little guns and do whatever they want with them.”

The May 9 discussion is also currently available at the committee’s website, but the gun group fears “It is possible that the official recording will be sanitized following release of this alert, and the official YouTube video could be deleted, so be sure to listen to it promptly.”

That the legislators have utter contempt for the Second Amendment and its proponents is obvious. Also clear is they have provided an irrefutable rebuttal to anti-gun activists who ridicule fears of a “slippery slope” by claiming no one wants to take guns away. Clearly, these politicians do.

ANJRPC is asking its supporters to “immediately call [609-847-3700] AND fax [609-633-7254] the Senate Majority Office, tell them you are outraged by the misguided, disparaging, and clueless comments of those pushing the anti-gun bill package, and demand that Senate Democratic leadership hold the entire package of anti-gun bills currently scheduled for consideration by the full Senate on Monday, May 13.”


they are trying to say that is not what she said and the audio quality is bad. Sounds clear enough for me.
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I'm hoping this gets some traction before the election.
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As un PC as it sounds, the founding fathers had it right.
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I watched V for Vendetta last night.
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me too.

As i posted in that other thread that speech in the beginning gets more and more relevant
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As un PC as it sounds, the founding fathers had it right.
You have to understand their framework.

It was part of the republic. The president represented the Federal govn't. Senators represented states. Congressmen represented districts. And men represented their families. Only a fool (i.e., liberal) would think that men of that day weren't consulting and discussing these things with their wives.
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Sad part is, I still hear that today.....
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You just keep telling yourself that, right up to the point where the "authorities" force their way into your home and sieze anything in your house that goes "bang". Of course, you may very well be the type that will obediently rush out and hand over everything you've got when ordered to do so; all in the name of public safety, or course.
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It was part of the republic. The president represented the Federal govn't. Senators represented states. Congressmen represented districts. And men represented their families. Only a fool (i.e., liberal) would think that men of that day weren't consulting and discussing these things with their wives.
I'm sure there were also scenarios where men didn't really give a shit about what their wives thought. You'd have to be obtuse to believe otherwise; women had a very different role in society at the time.

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You just keep telling yourself that, right up to the point where the "authorities" force their way into your home and sieze anything in your house that goes "bang". Of course, you may very well be the type that will obediently rush out and hand over everything you've got when ordered to do so; all in the name of public safety, or course.
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
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Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
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finally a Dem tells the truth in Jersey. Confiscate guns

:tehgary: is about to come in here and say you're all a bunch of conspiracy whackos and there is no way anyone in the go vestment wants to strip you of your rights.

I need to go find that thread about the IRS admitting they were on a witch hunt, that one should blow his mind.
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I need to go find that thread about the IRS admitting they were on a witch hunt, that one should blow his mind.
Couldn't find the thread. I'm sure everyone here was cheering the IRS' decision back then though.

"This isn't the first time the IRS has been in hot water for meddling in the politics of nonprofits. And if past is prelude, the Obama administration may have a years-long scandal on its hands.

In 2004, the NAACP was hit with an audit over accusations of improper political activity for criticizing the Bush administration.

"We have received information that during your 2004 convention in Philadelphia, your organization distributed statements in opposition of George W. Bush for the office of presidency," the IRS wrote in an audit notice that the group released to the media at the time.

Auditors also notified the group that it could be subject to a 10 percent tax for political expenditures as well as a 2.5 percent tax on any manager that signed off on the political activity.

The NAACP went public and sparked a now-familiar firestorm. Democrats in Congress were up in arms and called for answers about what constitutes political activity and questioning the political motivations of the agency.

Rep. Charles Rangel, the top Democrat on the Ways and Means Committee at the time, called the audit a police state tactic. Max Baucus, then the ranking member on the Senate Finance Committee, sent a letter to then-IRS Commissioner Mark Everson demanding answers to a list of questions about other similar audits.

“The integrity of our tax enforcement system is a critical matter,” Baucus wrote at the time. “The American public expects a high degree of non-partisanship and professionalism from the IRS."

The agency denied a culture of bias. They said the audit was triggered by staffers in a satellite office, this time in Kentucky.

It took more than two years and a lengthy legal battle for the IRS to drop its case against the NAACP. That was all well before the Supreme Court unleashed a flood of political groups into the IRS pool with its Citizens United decision.

“It caught the IRS completely flatfooted,” Lloyd Mayer, one of the attorneys that represented the NAACP in the case, told POLITICO on Monday. “They had never even thought of the possibility that one of their audit targets would go public and accuse the agency of bias.”
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Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
I figured I was laying it on pretty thick, but I guess not.
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Too bad that can't be considered treasonous.

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This being a single page thread has me confused.

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