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Old 05-16-2013, 07:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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For Pitbull dog owners... Absolutely yes.

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The new rules, which go into effect Thursday, require owners of “dangerous dogs” to carry $1 million in liability insurance, post signs, complete an obedience class with the dog, and keep the dog in a locked, fenced-in area. Owners must also comply with seven pages worth of other requirements to keep their pets in the city.

Officials say a dog is deemed dangerous if it bites or attacks a person, or causes serious injury to another domestic animal. Exceptions include dogs protecting an owner or a homeowner’s property.

City leaders say they created the ordinance after receiving 32 reports of dog bites and attacks during 2012 in Royal Oak.

Royal Oak resident John Scott said the ordinance is a good move for the city, putting the responsibility on the owners instead of the dogs.

“If you’re a dog owner, you know that dogs are protective of their territory. There’s an old saying that there’s no bad dogs, just bad owners,” he said.

Lori Wosnicki, who has a Bernese Mountain Dog, she understands the reason for the new ordinance, but still thinks that it goes too far.

“Look at this dog, who goes to schools and has kids lay all over him. I have a really hard time with [the ordinance] because how do you decide what’s dangerous,” she said.

Violation of the dog ordinance is a misdemeanor offense, punishable by a fine up to $500 and 90 days in jail.
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Let's do it for guns too. And cars. And forks.
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so do you have to do all that after a dog bites someone or because you own a breed that is deemed dangerous
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so do you have to do all that after a dog bites someone or because you own a breed that is deemed dangerous
This ^^^^ Article says one thing, then another.

I own German Shepherds, they haven't bitten anyone..........yet. So are they deemed dangerous already?
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Let's do it for guns too. And cars. And forks.
Guns, cars, and forks are not going to cause harm on their own.

The million dollar insurance policy goes too far. I would be fine with mandatory chipping and heavy fines for dogs that are not properly kept on a leash or escape from their fenced in area.

A responsible dog owner would already have a proper fence and would keep their dogs on a leash when out in public.
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Go for it. I will walk up and poke the hell out of your dog until it bites me then sue this shit out of you. Brilliant idea!
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Let's do it for guns too. And cars. And forks.
Nah, just pitbulls.
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Nah, just pitbulls.
Article never mentions Pitbulls. Troll much?
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Let's do it for guns too. And cars. And forks.
When the last time you seen a gun, a car or fork suddenly jump on it's own bite some kids fawking face off?
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I'm ok with it. It seems to state clearly:

"Officials say a dog is deemed dangerous if it bites or attacks a person, or causes serious injury to another domestic animal. Exceptions include dogs protecting an owner or a homeowner’s property."

When the dog is protecting you or it's property it is exempt. What's wrong with this? It only applies if your dog has bitten a person or causes "serious" injury to another animal.

Good, it will deter dumbshit tough guys from having dogs they can't handle. It bites, it goes or you pay. $1 mil seems out of line though. I'm not sure what would be appropriate, but 1 mil, that's a lot.

The problem will be the investigator getting the facts on the situation. It would be their judgement why the bite happened. But in reality if your dogs is biting people you have a problem that needs to be addressed, a problem you obviously can't handle. Skip the breed and penalize bites, sounds legit.

In conclusion, Pitbull population will decline, Good!
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I would think that if your dog bites or attacks a person, or causes serious injury to another domestic animal it should be put down. At this point, the owner has already demonstrated an inability to properly train or keep his dog under control.
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if its after a dog bite and the owner does all this to keep the dog then i'm ok with this.
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My city has 2 parts. The newer area thats nice and the older area where every thug wanna be has at least1 pit they beat till its mean so they can have dog fights. That caused them to have a "dangerous breed" ordnance. To legally have my pussy weenie pit in city limits we need to have a 250k insurance policy, 6 sided kennel obedience training etc. OR he can go through the "good k9 citizens academy" and he'll be treated like any other dog.
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Article never mentions Pitbulls. Troll much?
It's my opinion, don't like it? Too bad.
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What about ferrets?
Pet ferret bites 7 fingers off baby boy parents investigated for neglect | Mail Online

Pomeranians?
Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog - Los Angeles Times

Boxers?
Dog Runs Down Man: Boxer Bulldog Kills Owner with Family Car

Mastiffs?
Woman killed by her 140-lb. dog: Reason why previous owners gave Mastiff away - Portland Top News | Examiner.com

I know it's wiki but its the best I could find.
Fatal dog attacks in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You really need to lose your hard on for pits and realize people should never leave a kid alone with any animal. A friends 1yr old girl was bit in the face by her grandparents toy poodle. She has quite the scar but instead of killing the damn dog they just said she "scared it and it wouldn't ever hurt anyone."

I've grown up around pits and know many people who have them for pets, guard dogs and hog dogs. I have played with theses dogs and had a 70lb pit that was a beast of a hog dog come sit and beg for attention by sitting up on his haunches like a small dog. I have only been bit once in my life and that was a golden retriever.
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I'm ok with it. It seems to state clearly:

"Officials say a dog is deemed dangerous if it bites or attacks a person, or causes serious injury to another domestic animal. Exceptions include dogs protecting an owner or a homeowner’s property."

When the dog is protecting you or it's property it is exempt. What's wrong with this? It only applies if your dog has bitten a person or causes "serious" injury to another animal.
I have very serious problems with the highlighted...

what if the neighbors cat is in my yard and my dog needs an afternoon snack?
What if a neighbor sees my dog killing a snake - which some people have as pets?
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I have very serious problems with the highlighted...

what if the neighbors cat is in my yard and my dog needs an afternoon snack?
What if a neighbor sees my dog killing a snake - which some people have as pets?
Pay attention - "Exceptions include dogs protecting an owner or a homeowner’s property."

Your property EXCLUDED.
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Yep yep yep.
No matter which side of the topic you're on, you do realize that lawsuits are going to increase, right? You don't have a problem with sue-happy American suing even more?
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What about ferrets?
Pet ferret bites 7 fingers off baby boy parents investigated for neglect | Mail Online

Pomeranians?
Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog - Los Angeles Times

Boxers?
Dog Runs Down Man: Boxer Bulldog Kills Owner with Family Car

Mastiffs?
Woman killed by her 140-lb. dog: Reason why previous owners gave Mastiff away - Portland Top News | Examiner.com

I know it's wiki but its the best I could find.
Fatal dog attacks in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You really need to lose your hard on for pits and realize people should never leave a kid alone with any animal. A friends 1yr old girl was bit in the face by her grandparents toy poodle. She has quite the scar but instead of killing the damn dog they just said she "scared it and it wouldn't ever hurt anyone."

I've grown up around pits and know many people who have them for pets, guard dogs and hog dogs. I have played with theses dogs and had a 70lb pit that was a beast of a hog dog come sit and beg for attention by sitting up on his haunches like a small dog. I have only been bit once in my life and that was a golden retriever.
The OP is not breed biased. Skip anything that's not a dog, that's not the topic.
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HA HA your stupid if you think this will do much for the pitbull..More little dogs bite people every day wich means on average more people will have to carry that heafty ins policy on small dogs over pits.

Pits do kill more people then small dogs but thats not what this is about..Its about a dog (anydog ) that bites deemed dangerous that the owner has to carry ins..Ha ha,,try again..This will effect more people with small dogs over pit bulls.

all pits are bad,,all 4wd users are red neck hicks and the prius will save the world
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No, you are citing an article. Unless you wrote the article you need to separate your opinion.
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No matter which side of the topic you're on, you do realize that lawsuits are going to increase, right? You don't have a problem with sue-happy American suing even more?
You don't think they aren't suing already?

With this ins. will pay instead of a broke dog owner. The rates will rise so high that if your dog bites someone you can't afford to own it.
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