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Old 12-19-2005, 12:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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When Pumping GAS, do you turn your car off??? Why or why not??

I've had an ongoing argument with a buddy for years about whether or not you should turn your car off or leave it running while pumping gas. I realize that every gas station has a warning sign that says you must turn your car off before pumping, but I always leave mine running....and here's why:

I believe you have more of a chance of starting a fire if you turn your car off and then restart it at a gas station than you do if you just leave your car running. When your car is running, there are all sorts of sparks going on, but they're mainly on the top side of the engine by the distributor cap, wires, plugs, coil, etc. However, when you start your car, you not only have the sparks on the top side of the engine, but you're also promoting a huge source of potential sparks: the starter...which is usually on the bottom side of the engine, closer to the ground where spilled gas would likely be. So it would make sense to me that if there's gasoline puddles on the ground, that the likelihood of igniting one of them would be FAR greater when starting a car than when leaving a car idle.

Also, for the vehicle's longevity, some of the most serious engine wear is done while starting. An idling motor is subject to much less wear than a motor that is turned off and restarted 5 minutes later.

I realize that static electricity comes into play also while pumping gas, and maybe that's the key that I'm not understanding, but I fail to see how static electricity is effected one way or another by turning a car off and on again versus letting it idle.

What do you guys do, and which way do you think is safer, and why is it that goverment regulations require you to turn off your vehicle while pumping gas?
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Old 12-19-2005, 12:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What if gas somehow sprayed all over the place? IMO it's the same reason not to smoke at the pump (seen it done, left in a hurry )

anyway... what's with this stupid rule to turn off your cell? Never heard of anyone getting blown up while on the phone at the gas station....
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Never turn my truck off. Of course its a diesel to combustion isnt as much of an issue.
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Leave the work truck running.

Turn my truck off.
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Never turn my truck off. Of course its a diesel to combustion isnt as much of an issue.
and if I had a diesel I'd probably not turn it off either....
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anyway... what's with this stupid rule to turn off your cell? Never heard of anyone getting blown up while on the phone at the gas station....
static charge from the phone - highly unlikely that its going to ignite the vapours but its a possibility

I've seen footage of one station that exploded from a cell phone a few years back
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turn it off i have a locking gas door.

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turn it off i have a locking gas door.

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Made me laugh.

I turn mine off. I follow warning labels most of the time. I'm a safety engineering consultant. I'd feel extra stupid on the 9:00 news.
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if my memory serves me right, when you get in and out of your car you create a static discharge which could start a fire... which was also shown on film just like the cell phone thing. i believe i saw this on myth busters.

oh yeah, and they said women are more likely to start a fire at a gas station smoking, talking on the cell phone, and getting in and out of the car. just a statistic that the show presented!
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turn it off i have a locking gas door.

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me too...

but either way... why would you let it run?... there's no logical reason... at all...
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Diesel leave running, gasser turn off sometimes, if I am going in to pay, turn both off and take the keys.
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me too...

but either way... why would you let it run?... there's no logical reason... at all...
Starting your engine causes more wear than just letting it idle.
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im oregon its illeagle to pump your own gas... they will tell you to turn off your car when they pump your gas, plus i have a locking gas cap. ( i hate that law, i would rather pump my own gas)
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im oregon its illeagle to pump your own gas... they will tell you to turn off your car when they pump your gas, plus i have a locking gas cap. ( i hate that law, i would rather pump my own gas)

that is such a wierd fucking law...
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I learned about the Oregon thing when passing through, wierd.

I leave my diesel running and turn my 4Runner or LandCruiser off.
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The goverment in Oregon does not feel we are responsible or qualified enough citizens to pump our own gas...only 17 year old high school drop outs can handle that kind of major responsibility.
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The goverment in Oregon does not feel we are responsible or qualified enough citizens to pump our own gas...only 17 year old high school drop outs can handle that kind of major responsibility.
NJ is the same.
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static charge from the phone - highly unlikely that its going to ignite the vapours but its a possibility

I've seen footage of one station that exploded from a cell phone a few years back

Ditto only seen it on TV they did show a couple of them and they were soccer moms
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me too...

but either way... why would you let it run?... there's no logical reason... at all...
The logical reason here is the temp is below 0, if your male u know how we shrivle (SP).lol

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Ya'll keep 'em running, at 80 bucks a pop to turn off your MIL for P0440 "gross leak" codes I can keep paying the mortage. That applies to 97 and later for the most part.
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hell, i guess I'm the only guy who drives shitty enough vehicles. Ones that you think twice before turning off, which might never start back up...
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:07 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Turn it off, it's state law. In NJ, I've seen plenty of attendants filling running cars.

In NJ, you can legally pump your own diesel.
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Well if its a diesel.... saving the life of your starter for one. Gasser.... not as much of an issue. Also, its not like all the oil has settled out of your engine in 10 minutes (after all you just drove there). From my understanding the most wear and tear for an engine would be a cold start
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if my memory serves me right, when you get in and out of your car you create a static discharge which could start a fire... which was also shown on film just like the cell phone thing. i believe i saw this on myth busters.

oh yeah, and they said women are more likely to start a fire at a gas station smoking, talking on the cell phone, and getting in and out of the car. just a statistic that the show presented!
Didn't the show pretty much prove it was about impossible for a cell phone or static to cause a fire?
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I believe the cell phone one is pure crap, just like the no cell phone in hospital. The static one I believe has been found as the cause of a few fires, mostly plastic tanks in a truck bedliner.

The cellphone thing is retarded though.
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