Is Toyota now considered a US Automaker?

[Terrys_85_Toy]

I was just having a chat with a coworker about Toyota's announcement to build the Prius in the US and he was going on about foreign automakers and where the US dollar goes and so on. So the argrument insued about Toyota building more in the US than the US automakers do and they are traded on the NYSE, so essentially, they are a US company... Maybe

yes/no

[mike]

They've built cars in the US for 20 years. Makes me laugh that a Toyota has a better chance of being made in the US than a Ford

[TEX]

Originally Posted by mike

Makes me laugh that a Toyota has a better chance of being made in the US than a Ford

Thank the UAW - they've made leaving the U.S. VERY appealing for the "big 3"

[Budd]

I say no - not a US company. Yes they may make more cars in the US for the US - but they are a Japanese global company.

[mike]

what matters more? where corporate headquarters are or where the wages go?

[ecrist]

Originally Posted by mike

They've built cars in the US for 20 years. Makes me laugh that a Toyota has a better chance of being made in the US than a Ford

Laugh - is a sad, nervous type of way.

[FordFascist]

It used to matter where a car company's headquarters were, but considering now that U.S. sales are not the number one concern for any large auto producer I'm not sure it matters.

Since Fords, GMs and Chryslers all use outsourced parts to one degree or another and all build cars in other countries via partnerships and conglomerates the status of "American made" isn't as important as it used to be.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by mike

what matters more? where corporate headquarters are or where the wages go?

Big discussion here in STL with the potential InBev buyout of A-B. EVERY charity in town is scared shitless about the ramifications of their #1 donor not being locally owned anymore. And the idea of having all those high-paid executives (and their out-of-town business guests) leaving town is not making the restaurant/hotel business happy.

[Chister]

the Tundra is the ONLY American-Made truck. Period End of story.

so is it an american company? Just as much as chevy, dodge (daimler Chrysler) and Ford.

[Proeliator]

Originally Posted by Chister

the Tundra is the ONLY American-Made truck. Period End of story.

so is it an american company? Just as much as chevy, dodge (daimler Chrysler) and Ford.

In todays global economy, I would have to agree with that statement.

[DieLucas!]

Originally Posted by Chister

so is it an american company? Just as much as chevy, dodge (daimler Chrysler) and Ford.

Daimler what? Pay attention much?

[DieLucas!]

Originally Posted by Proeliator

In todays global economy, I would have to agree with that statement.

Certainly, because the shareholders of the Big 3 are certainly not all US citizens...calling them a "US company", in light of their stock-holders and, more importantly, their business practices is a joke. I care more about who is getting paid to assemble the cars, and who is paying US taxes to employ US workers.

[demonranger]

Originally Posted by Chister

the Tundra is the ONLY American-Made truck. Period End of story.

so is it an american company? Just as much as chevy, dodge (daimler Chrysler) and Ford.

Would you consider a Superduty made in KY an American-made truck or and F150 made in Kansas City, Dearborn, or Norfolk American-made trucks?

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Chister

the Tundra is the ONLY American-Made truck. Period End of story.

My 2002 GMC 2500HD was made in the US (Indiana IIRC)

[Billy_Manfroy]

Only a dipshit Prius fag would think a Toyota is an American car builder, and this is EXACTLY what's wrong why the USA, and EXACTLY while it will fester in its own shit and become a territory for China and India within 50 years. You'd better teach your kids to speak mandarin and indian because your kids will be the ones doing the jobs they and the mexicans don't want to do...

And to say they "help" by giving jobs that the big three can no longer provide is like saying it's better to take out a 30-year loan on your house to pay off the remaining five years you owe because "It's cheaper". Goddamn our government and the majority of our citizens are fucking stupid. I hate everybody.

[rockota]

Made in America and Assembled in America are two vastly differently things...

Toyota America's is (arguably) an American Company... Owned by Toyota.

[FordFascist]

Originally Posted by Billy_Manfroy

Only a dipshit Prius fag would think a Toyota is an American car builder, and this is EXACTLY what's wrong why the USA, and EXACTLY while it will fester in its own shit and become a territory for China and India within 50 years. You'd better teach your kids to speak mandarin and indian because your kids will be the ones doing the jobs they and the mexicans don't want to do...

And to say they "help" by giving jobs that the big three can no longer provide is like saying it's better to take out a 30-year loan on your house to pay off the remaining five years you owe because "It's cheaper". Goddamn our government and the majority of our citizens are fucking stupid. I hate everybody.

I'm sorry I don't speak retardese...translation?


Plenty of people who are not US citizens own stock in American companies, and Americans own stock in Japanese Co's like Toyota. Since a vast majority of parts for "American-built" cars are sourced internationally, and Toyota sources almost all its truck parts domestically, technically the Toyota is more American.

[Blue-Beard]

Originally Posted by Billy_Manfroy

Only a dipshit Prius fag would think a Toyota is an American car builder, and this is EXACTLY what's wrong why the USA, and EXACTLY while it will fester in its own shit and become a territory for China and India within 50 years. You'd better teach your kids to speak mandarin and indian because your kids will be the ones doing the jobs they and the mexicans don't want to do...

And to say they "help" by giving jobs that the big three can no longer provide is like saying it's better to take out a 30-year loan on your house to pay off the remaining five years you owe because "It's cheaper". Goddamn our government and the majority of our citizens are fucking stupid. I hate everybody.

I'm confused, so you like it better that Chevy/Ford pays workers in Mexico to assemble cars?

[JParuBob]

Originally Posted by Blue-Beard

I'm confused, so you like it better that Chevy/Ford pays workers in Mexico to assemble cars?

Or Canaduh?

[Sundowner]

Originally Posted by rockota

Made in America and Assembled in America are two vastly differently things...

Toyota America's is (arguably) an American Company... Owned by Toyota.

So is Ford Europe a european company "owned" by Ford in Detroit? What about Ford in Australia? or is it just one big glom of corporate money that knows no national boundry?

[PTSchram]

I worked for the Lear Corp., one of the largest tier one suppliers in the world. The factory where I worked, shipped parts in Toyota boxes, Jaguar boxes, Honda boxes, Ford, and Mitsubishi boxes. These parts were shipped all over the world to assembly plants.

The Jaguar parts were made in Berne, IN, shipped to England, shipped from England to a Ford engine plant in Canada (IIRC), the assembled engines were then shipped to England.

W/R/T Japanese vehicles, at one point while I was working this job, there was a strike on the docks on the west coast. Our plant was shut down because the parts that we provided to the Georgetown, KY plant weren't needed because there were no axles available for the cars as they were all on ships in LAX harbor, being shipped from Japan.

It has become a very tangled web of relationships.

No, Toyota is not a American company

[TheTonka]

Originally Posted by Billy_Manfroy

Only a dipshit Prius fag would think a Toyota is an American car builder, and this is EXACTLY what's wrong why the USA, and EXACTLY while it will fester in its own shit and become a territory for China and India within 50 years. You'd better teach your kids to speak mandarin and indian because your kids will be the ones doing the jobs they and the mexicans don't want to do...

And to say they "help" by giving jobs that the big three can no longer provide is like saying it's better to take out a 30-year loan on your house to pay off the remaining five years you owe because "It's cheaper". Goddamn our government and the majority of our citizens are fucking stupid. I hate everybody.

Stick your head back in the sand and let the adults talk.

[TheTonka]

IMHO an international company does not have a home, by definition. Now the localized wholely owned divisions of an international company does have a home. Toyota North America IS a US Automaker. Although I would not use Automaker I would use Automobile Company.

It's just not a simple question anymore.

[Eisenfaust]

I don't think it really matters. We are going in the direction of a global economy....its going to happen at some point. What will the PBB argue about then?!?

[Midwestzj]

Well, one thing is they are not American owned but they pay americans, the taxes on their products stays in America and Americans think Toyota is the best.