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Old 05-28-2010, 07:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sickle Bar mowers - New Holland 451

Anyone know much about them?
I know they hold their value pretty well and are the preferred sickle bar mower for hay.

I might be trading some cattle for one this weekend.

Any comments or experience?
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Old 05-28-2010, 08:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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check out the Attachments forum at TractorByNet. Seem to be alot of happy people.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/s...archid=3543366

I've just dinked with old POS's and a walk behind sickle, it's somewhat surprising how well for tall grass they work with their little motors.
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Most are pretty simple, check the teeth for wear and see if there are any broken blades, and if the bearings are tight. Most of that is easy to repair though. I would say most farm equipment holds it value if kept up and kept indoors out of the weather. Sickles are sort of being phased out in favor of hay conditioners around here. My grandpa mostly only uses his to mow ditches and slopes anymore since he can uses the big tractor with A/C with his conditioner instead..
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Make yourself a lever/pry bar to bend the guides back into alignment. Over time they'll get bumped up from hitting the ground/rocks. It'll run way smoother and better if the guides are all nicely lined up.
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not fond of sickle bar mowers, personally. for the price of used NH 451s, I would try to find a Kuhn or similar rotary cutter.

you can't cut hay early in the morning, here, with sickle bars because of the moisture. also, ant beds are a PITA

sickle bars are easy to repair in the field as you really only carry spare blades and rivets... maybe a belt.
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I have had a couple of them, I sold the last one for $800 bucks. I always liked running sickle bars however there is a lot of learning needed to keep them from plugging when cutting heavy hay.

They are great for trimming along side of roads and creeks because they have no pitman arm and the cutter bar follows the contour of the bank . I have even mowed my grass with one a time or two, did a lot nicer job than my rotary mower.

They need very little horse power to run so they are easy on fuel compared to a haybine or disc mower. and you can run one with a smaller tractor.

As mentioned you can carry spare cutters and rivets so you can repair them in the field. One good whack with a hammer on the end of the cutter shears the rivets, put your new cutter and new rivets, peen them down untill the cutter is tight and you are on your way.

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We were too far apart on price. So cows are still for sale.
The mower he had was a good used mower, not a 1500 dollar mower.
He wanted me to throw in a couple hundred boot. I told him "I was thinking the same thing - you need to give me a couple hundred boot.
I told him "you'd be better off to sell it and come talk to me with cash."
He was just a pen hooker looking to turn a quick buck with a few lies.
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Mom had one on an old Farmall and all I can remember (aside from thinking it was cool) was her cussing it because it broke the wooden drive shaft thingy all the time. It looked like a 2x2 or 3"x3" piece about 3' long.
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The wooden drive shaft thingy is called a pitman arm. I had a Ford 501 mower that used pitman arms. The 451 mower doesn't use pitman arms.
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We were too far apart on price. So cows are still for sale.
The mower he had was a good used mower, not a 1500 dollar mower.
He wanted me to throw in a couple hundred boot. I told him "I was thinking the same thing - you need to give me a couple hundred boot.
I told him "you'd be better off to sell it and come talk to me with cash."
He was just a pen hooker looking to turn a quick buck with a few lies.

$1500 is too much. You can pick up ones in pretty good shape for 800 to 1000 bucks
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I've already found several with only one exceeding 1500 and that was at an equipment sales place.
It better be near new for that price.
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The wooden drive shaft thingy is called a pitman arm. I had a Ford 501 mower that used pitman arms. The 451 mower doesn't use pitman arms.
Aha! I never knew that!
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If you run across a NH 451 or other good belt drive sickle bar let me know.
I'll run up and get it. I've had people offer to give me worn out 501s and other pitman arm mowers.
I had a gut offer to give a worn out superior the other day.
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If you run across a NH 451 or other good belt drive sickle bar let me know.
I'll run up and get it. I've had people offer to give me worn out 501s and other pitman arm mowers.
I had a gut offer to give a worn out superior the other day.
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http://www.sweettractors.com/used_equip_pg1.html#
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I run across sickle bars on ocassion, If I find something I'll give you a shout.
I would avoid the pitman arm mowers, Most if not all wont you mow hill sides.
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