SAS a H2 or H3? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

usmcdoc14 · 06-11-2007, 02:53 PM

has anyone one done this yet? I searched google and here and aint found shit. So has anyone slid a solid axle under the front of one ?(other than the few HUGE show trucks I have seen) Or has everyone just been keep beefing up the IFS ?
just wondering as it seems like a prime candidate for one and a prime market for a company to offer one for.

DirtyFun · 06-11-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

has anyone one done this yet? I searched google and here and aint found shit. So has anyone slid a solid axle under the front of one ?(other than the few HUGE show trucks I have seen) Or has everyone just been keep beefing up the IFS ?
just wondering as it seems like a prime candidate for one and a prime market for a company to offer one for.

You could check here:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/index.php

Benzz0 · 06-11-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyFun

You could check here:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/index.php

has anyone over there done a SAS? If not WHY direct traffic towards that site if it hasn't been done?

IMO - a SAS H2 wouldn't be worth it...the H3 on the other hand would be the fucking shit...

at LEAST they tend to have a better ground clearance and a lower COG

usmcdoc14 · 06-11-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyFun

You could check here:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/index.php

I am checking "here"

usmcdoc14 · 06-11-2007, 03:11 PM

and nothing found with "SAS" or "solid axle front" that has anything to do with someone actualy doing one in that forum

rkcrawl · 06-11-2007, 03:46 PM

When I had my H3 (for the short time I had it), I spent a little time around the front end: A SAS looked pretty challenging given the frame rail design in the front. Besides, the 3.5L 5 cylinder is a turd. The new 08 H3 Alpha with the 5.3L, that would be a fun vehicle, and if you SAS'd it, you do away with the tierod issues the IFS setup have... I suspect that it would have to be either a really tall beast or major chassis work to SAS a H3.

Sewie · 06-11-2007, 04:02 PM

There was an H3 done by Bully Dog and Mount Logan Offroad. D60 front/rear. 4 link front. Duramax conversion. Hydro assist.

http://www.mtloganoffroad.com/

http://www.bullydog.com/index.php?cu...1&pr=H3_Diesel

Yadranco · 06-11-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

has anyone one done this yet? I searched google and here and aint found shit. So has anyone slid a solid axle under the front of one ?(other than the few HUGE show trucks I have seen) Or has everyone just been keep beefing up the IFS ?
just wondering as it seems like a prime candidate for one and a prime market for a company to offer one for.

Guys with Hummer replicas do that all the time. Wait a minute, we are considered lower class .So why bother.

06-11-2007, 05:47 PM

If anyone in Colorado needs a “test” H2 to develop a SAS PM me. It’s not a DD (i.e. you could keep it for a few weeks) and would get wheeled afterwards

Bebe · 06-11-2007, 06:35 PM

You think they would let me test drive it on the Rubicon???

06-11-2007, 06:48 PM

I doubt that exhaust system would last very long on the Rubicon

Bebe · 06-11-2007, 06:49 PM

I'll re-route it for them

usmcdoc14 · 06-11-2007, 06:51 PM

great idea, ugly as a motherfucker hood.

blingity fab everywhere and a turd ass hood with "hole saw" vents in it

06-11-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

great idea, ugly as a motherfucker hood.

blingity fab everywhere and a turd ass hood with "hole saw" vents in it

But it does have a snorkel

Bebe · 06-11-2007, 06:57 PM

It's the only SAS we got to date.....nothings ever enough for you

rkcrawl · 06-11-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

great idea, ugly as a motherfucker hood.

blingity fab everywhere and a turd ass hood with "hole saw" vents in it

This coming from the guy who drove a Liberty... pffft!

Actually it looks pretty damn well done. I'd really like to see more of the front end work. I see they put an Atlas case in place of the stocker. Wonder what else they did.

Bebe · 06-11-2007, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rkcrawl

This coming from the guy who drove a Liberty... pffft!

AWWWWWRRRGGGH

A liberty??? WTF?? And here I was thinking you were hard core.....that's just ewww.

Grendel · 06-12-2007, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bebe

AWWWWWRRRGGGH

A liberty??? WTF?? And here I was thinking you were hard core.....that's just ewww.

Yep... it was a diesel, pink Liberty...

Gil

I'd run the heck out of that H3 with SAS and the Diesel motor. I am waiting for them to get cheap enough used then I will build one for giggles. My wife needs a wheeler that will fit three kids and gear. She's not happy with the long armed LJ.

usmcdoc14 · 06-12-2007, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bebe

AWWWWWRRRGGGH

A liberty??? WTF?? And here I was thinking you were hard core.....that's just ewww.

I also own an Isuzu Amigo and a Grand Waggy, you gonna claim those are any less hardcore as well ?

It was a Diesel Liberty and the reason I got it was the H3 could not tow anywhere close to it or get the same gas mileage

but it got lemoned

Now I have a 4 door JK as well, it has a solid axle in the front

sorry but that Hummer is sweet, right up till you get to the nostril looking hood

Non Urban · 06-12-2007, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

I also own an Isuzu Amigo and a Grand Waggy, you gonna claim those are any less hardcore as well ?

It was a Diesel Liberty and the reason I got it was the H3 could not tow anywhere close to it or get the same gas mileage

but it got lemoned

Now I have a 4 door JK as well, it has a solid axle in the front

sorry but that Hummer is sweet, right up till you get to the nostril looking hood

So a diesel Liberty gets better than 12 mpg towing 4,500 lbs? Cool. But no less

rkcrawl · 06-12-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Non Urban

So a diesel Liberty gets better than 12 mpg towing 4,500 lbs? Cool. But no less

I don't know if Doc's ever got better then 12mpg towing...his turned out to be a turd which Chrysler ended up buying back. I understand the goal, but the platform was, well

Now, the H3 with the puny 3.5L (I had one for 5 months

) was definitely underpowered and still is even with the 3.7L. The new Alpha with the 5.3 would be fun, ought to tow quite a bit, still won't be great on gas.

Glad Doc doesn't have my address: no glitter bombs from you!

FELTONKID · 06-12-2007, 01:45 PM

Not sure about an H3, but a while back I saw an H2 SAS'd on ebay. It looked like the owner did an alright job (except for some booger welds on the shock towers

)

Edit: it looked like it had some rock rash from wheeling, so I don't think it was a show queen.

usmcdoc14 · 06-12-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Non Urban

So a diesel Liberty gets better than 12 mpg towing 4,500 lbs? Cool. But no less

yes, it did

I think I was getting 17 or 18 on the way down here from MD. It fully fucking rocked for power and MPG but the trans/engine not communicating got old quick

If it did not suck ass it was going to get SAS

The H3 engine is what turned me away from it and the H2 was too big/money for me.

mike · 06-13-2007, 12:00 AM

I have a canyon pickup. Same chassis as the H3, although the lighter weight makes the engine fine

It'd be cake to SAS it.

DURAtotheMAX · 06-14-2007, 05:08 PM

bet that dmax-swapped H3 runs really well without an intercooler

06-11-2007, 02:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,283	SAS a H2 or H3? has anyone one done this yet? I searched google and here and aint found shit. So has anyone slid a solid axle under the front of one ?(other than the few HUGE show trucks I have seen) Or has everyone just been keep beefing up the IFS ? just wondering as it seems like a prime candidate for one and a prime market for a company to offer one for. __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight. Last edited by usmcdoc14; 06-11-2007 at 02:54 PM.

06-11-2007, 03:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,283	and nothing found with "SAS" or "solid axle front" that has anything to do with someone actualy doing one in that forum __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

06-11-2007, 03:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
rkcrawl Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8435 Location: East TN Posts: 1,685	When I had my H3 (for the short time I had it), I spent a little time around the front end: A SAS looked pretty challenging given the frame rail design in the front. Besides, the 3.5L 5 cylinder is a turd. The new 08 H3 Alpha with the 5.3L, that would be a fun vehicle, and if you SAS'd it, you do away with the tierod issues the IFS setup have... I suspect that it would have to be either a really tall beast or major chassis work to SAS a H3. __________________ .

06-11-2007, 06:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
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06-11-2007, 06:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
Bebe flamethrower Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75270 Location: Auburn, CA Posts: 8,453	I'll re-route it for them __________________ What's all the Hub-bub about Blue Stars??? Click Here MFS H3 Long Travel Build Bink'sFab Capt Ahab FZJ80 Build My Dad's cool HotRod Junk Haulin the Groceries AND Haulin the MAIL

06-11-2007, 04:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sewie Wheeler Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83683 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 137	There was an H3 done by Bully Dog and Mount Logan Offroad. D60 front/rear. 4 link front. Duramax conversion. Hydro assist. http://www.mtloganoffroad.com/ http://www.bullydog.com/index.php?cu...1&pr=H3_Diesel

06-11-2007, 05:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
Alec W Guest Member # Posts: n/a	If anyone in Colorado needs a “test” H2 to develop a SAS PM me. It’s not a DD (i.e. you could keep it for a few weeks) and would get wheeled afterwards

06-11-2007, 06:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
Alec W Guest Member # Posts: n/a	I doubt that exhaust system would last very long on the Rubicon

06-11-2007, 06:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,283	great idea, ugly as a motherfucker hood. blingity fab everywhere and a turd ass hood with "hole saw" vents in it __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

06-11-2007, 06:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bebe flamethrower Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75270 Location: Auburn, CA Posts: 8,453	It's the only SAS we got to date.....nothings ever enough for you __________________ What's all the Hub-bub about Blue Stars??? Click Here MFS H3 Long Travel Build Bink'sFab Capt Ahab FZJ80 Build My Dad's cool HotRod Junk Haulin the Groceries AND Haulin the MAIL

06-12-2007, 01:45 PM	#22 (permalink)
FELTONKID Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 76752 Location: the north pole (it gets cold sometimes) Posts: 84	Not sure about an H3, but a while back I saw an H2 SAS'd on ebay. It looked like the owner did an alright job (except for some booger welds on the shock towers ) Edit: it looked like it had some rock rash from wheeling, so I don't think it was a show queen. __________________ 83 shortbed 22re detroits, 5:29s, 35's-05 CR-SOLD! Now 02 tacoma with big plans Last edited by FELTONKID; 06-12-2007 at 01:48 PM.

06-13-2007, 12:00 AM	#24 (permalink)
mike Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 144 Location: Northern Mexico... er.. AriDzona Posts: 6,867	I have a canyon pickup. Same chassis as the H3, although the lighter weight makes the engine fine It'd be cake to SAS it. __________________ That's because you're a pinko fascist. - Haole I know what antidisestablishmentarianist means

06-14-2007, 05:08 PM	#25 (permalink)
DURAtotheMAX Granite Guru Join Date: Jun 2006 Member # 74118 Location: CT Posts: 841	bet that dmax-swapped H3 runs really well without an intercooler __________________ -1968 vw beetle 4x4, 5.3 LSx vortec, th400/bw1339, amc20, d30, hydroboost brakes, 34" swampers, lotsa custom crap, engine is still in the back where its supposed to be... -2005 Dmax/Ally, makes smoke, goes fast, tows a lot

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