Hummer Vs. F250 Pull Off - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Yadranco · 06-16-2007, 07:24 AM

David against Goliath .Who is David and who is Goliath ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh9sM...elated&search=

ElkyRacer · 06-16-2007, 07:53 AM

No 6.5 there for sure!

Beat95YJ · 06-16-2007, 01:21 PM

I don't get it. Once the tires spin on either truck its getting dragged. I think vehicle weight and gearing would be more important than hp.

800MJ · 06-16-2007, 03:25 PM

i coulda told you the hummer was gonna win before i started watching it. and not only cuz its in the hummer section and not the ford. but hummers have bigger tires and geared lower than an f250. the hummer had more tire contact to the road. put the same tires on the 250 and gear it the same and itll be a little more inresting. sucks he broke his ujoint lol

realmencutfenders · 06-16-2007, 07:18 PM

Looked pretty even to me.

forsakenfuture · 06-17-2007, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beat95YJ

I don't get it. Once the tires spin on either truck its getting dragged. I think vehicle weight and gearing would be more important than hp.

Ya,this seems like a typical redneck victory me..never taking in account anything but engines.

KiGrind · 06-17-2007, 01:52 PM

You need traction in a pull like that, such as with gearing giving torque and no spin. Spinning the tires might give you some sort of traction but in a way causes you to float. If it was in mud or sand you might have a different store. Sand, you'd just see both sink.

TJVigilante · 06-17-2007, 07:58 PM

static vs. dynamic friction. If you spin a tire, you're working with the much lower Dynamic friction, and the other vehicle has the much greater static coefficient of friction.

rketr · 06-20-2007, 03:51 PM

Not sure how the guys in the video can say the Hummer beat the Ford; throughout the video every time the Ford started winning, the guy with the camera kept yelling: "stop! stop!" Only time the Hummer moved the Ford is when it started spinning its tires. I counted at least 4 times that the Ford won in the pulloff...

Put a little weight in the back of the Ford bed and there will be no contest...

KiGrind · 06-20-2007, 09:21 PM

So if the hummer was winning, why is the idiot screaming stop every time the F250 starts pulling away? Ego stroke anyone? Really for what the person paid for the vehicle, what GM boasts about it, the numbers on paper, and the fact its just an F250, I sure hope he could pull it... but I was proven wrong.

06-20-2007, 09:52 PM

Who cares? Looks boring to me and I barely watched the first 20 seconds before my ADHD kicked in

06-20-2007, 09:56 PM

Drving over the ford might be fun though

Bebe · 06-20-2007, 10:26 PM

It's a Neanderthal contest...let'em have their fun

Non Urban · 06-20-2007, 10:32 PM

I don't see a clear cut winner. It looked to me like the Ford was pulling the Hummer more.

Stuckle · 06-20-2007, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alec W

Drving over the ford might be fun though

woah

you allmost rolled

thats hardcore wheelin

06-20-2007, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuckle

woah

you allmost rolled

thats hardcore wheelin

Nah, my point was that it’s as interesting as a stupid pull off.

Stuckle · 06-20-2007, 11:21 PM

well at least we agree on that

buffy · 06-24-2007, 03:11 PM

Which rig weighs more? It's called normal force. I'm a Chevy fan, but that Ford is much more powerful than the Hummer. Despite it's overall length, I bet the Hummer may weigh a little more. Your ability to get power to the ground is limited simply by normal force and friction coefficient (be that static or rolling). Now tires spinning certainly adds a variable, but who cares. If I can pull with a million pounds of force perpindicular to the normal force I create with my 205 pounds of meat and love handles, a Pinto will still drag my ass down the road all day long. Dumbasses should of paid attention in 10th grade physics.

bspencer · 06-24-2007, 04:05 PM

if you all hadnt noticed the Hummer is also running a cummins 4bt in it istead of the 6.5

misterfubar · 06-24-2007, 04:28 PM

STOP!!!! STOP!!!!

I'd give the Ford the overall win.

I'd love a 4BT powered H1 though, that's pretty sweet.

f250rollinon37s · 06-24-2007, 04:44 PM

did anyone else notice the strap angle ? pulling up on the fords rear ? mechanical advantage -
i had a similer buff with my 95 f250 and a 92 cummins - he was 7900 lbs - i was 4700 - with a flat strap - i won i 2wd - but in 4 - he would drag me without slipping a tire - i guess over 4k on the front axle didnt hurt - it made for some good pics - will find them if i can

TJVigilante · 06-24-2007, 05:58 PM

Strap angle, ford only started spinning when the driveshaft broke, and cameradouche yelling stop and cutting off when the ford starts pulling easy. Lame.

KiGrind · 06-24-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TJVigilante

and cameradouche yelling stop and cutting off when the ford starts pulling easy. Lame.

He seriously sounds like he is taking a meat rod in the fudge hole, his boy freind in the hummer was getting raped and the cameraman's ass started hurting.

Why do you never see hummers in tractor pulls? Well, I never do.

pizzaboy · 06-25-2007, 02:00 AM

lame x2

i doubt that the creators of this video had any idea of even a quarter of the physics at play in a pull off.

kibblerange · 06-25-2007, 08:20 AM

lamex3

But it was funnay when the camera guy goes "You broke a driveshaft"

I don't know it made me laugh

Oh... and wheres the tech?

06-16-2007, 07:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
Yadranco Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 85162 Location: Montreal Posts: 52	Hummer Vs. F250 Pull Off David against Goliath .Who is David and who is Goliath ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh9sM...elated&search= __________________ [url]http://landroverforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31695[/url]

06-16-2007, 01:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
Beat95YJ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 22176 Location: Redondo Beach Posts: 8,746	I don't get it. Once the tires spin on either truck its getting dragged. I think vehicle weight and gearing would be more important than hp. __________________ I can break a steel ball in a rubber room!

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800MJ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64089 Location: CT Posts: 886	i coulda told you the hummer was gonna win before i started watching it. and not only cuz its in the hummer section and not the ford. but hummers have bigger tires and geared lower than an f250. the hummer had more tire contact to the road. put the same tires on the 250 and gear it the same and itll be a little more inresting. sucks he broke his ujoint lol __________________ [QUOTE=roastbeef;10323284]last night, this girl was sucking my dick and she stated licking my balls and then she starteld likcing my ass. i almost nuttd right on top of her fucking head before i got to stick it in her. im drunk.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=sucker;10784484]ok straight six and reliable don't go together. But have fun with that one.[/QUOTE]

06-17-2007, 01:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
KiGrind Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 66647 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 1,333	You need traction in a pull like that, such as with gearing giving torque and no spin. Spinning the tires might give you some sort of traction but in a way causes you to float. If it was in mud or sand you might have a different store. Sand, you'd just see both sink. __________________ 79 CJ-7 95 ZJ

06-20-2007, 03:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
rketr Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83985 Location: Central Texas Posts: 81	Not sure how the guys in the video can say the Hummer beat the Ford; throughout the video every time the Ford started winning, the guy with the camera kept yelling: "stop! stop!" Only time the Hummer moved the Ford is when it started spinning its tires. I counted at least 4 times that the Ford won in the pulloff... Put a little weight in the back of the Ford bed and there will be no contest... __________________ Insert Signature Here: ____________________

06-16-2007, 07:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
ElkyRacer Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51670 Location: Texarkana Tx/Ark Posts: 480	No 6.5 there for sure!

06-16-2007, 07:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
realmencutfenders Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 79125 Posts: 143	Looked pretty even to me.

06-17-2007, 07:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
TJVigilante Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68805 Location: Cold ass Interior Alaska Posts: 1,281	static vs. dynamic friction. If you spin a tire, you're working with the much lower Dynamic friction, and the other vehicle has the much greater static coefficient of friction.

06-20-2007, 09:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
KiGrind Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 66647 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 1,333	So if the hummer was winning, why is the idiot screaming stop every time the F250 starts pulling away? Ego stroke anyone? Really for what the person paid for the vehicle, what GM boasts about it, the numbers on paper, and the fact its just an F250, I sure hope he could pull it... but I was proven wrong. __________________ 79 CJ-7 95 ZJ Last edited by KiGrind; 06-20-2007 at 09:22 PM.

06-20-2007, 09:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
Alec W Guest Member # Posts: n/a	Who cares? Looks boring to me and I barely watched the first 20 seconds before my ADHD kicked in

06-20-2007, 09:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
Alec W Guest Member # Posts: n/a	Drving over the ford might be fun though

06-20-2007, 10:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
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06-20-2007, 10:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
Non Urban Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21175 Location: Tukwila, WA Posts: 964	I don't see a clear cut winner. It looked to me like the Ford was pulling the Hummer more. __________________ [COLOR="Red"][SIZE="4"][B]IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS,[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR="White"][SIZE="4"][B]PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"][SIZE="4"][B]STAND IN FRONT OF THEM![/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]

06-20-2007, 11:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
Stuckle Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 57804 Location: Langley, B.C. Posts: 484	well at least we agree on that

06-24-2007, 03:11 PM	#18 (permalink)
buffy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40288 Location: Longview, Texas Posts: 75	Which rig weighs more? It's called normal force. I'm a Chevy fan, but that Ford is much more powerful than the Hummer. Despite it's overall length, I bet the Hummer may weigh a little more. Your ability to get power to the ground is limited simply by normal force and friction coefficient (be that static or rolling). Now tires spinning certainly adds a variable, but who cares. If I can pull with a million pounds of force perpindicular to the normal force I create with my 205 pounds of meat and love handles, a Pinto will still drag my ass down the road all day long. Dumbasses should of paid attention in 10th grade physics. __________________ GEEMONS: 1996 4-Door Tahoe with Whipple Supercharged Vortec 5.7L, Detroit Locked 14 Bolt SF w/ 4.56 Gears, 35" Toyo MTs & TrueTrac Equipped Ford F-250 HP D44 w/ Chevy 6-Lug Outers

06-24-2007, 04:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
misterfubar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 65026 Location: At home. Posts: 2,373 Blog Entries: 1	STOP!!!! STOP!!!! I'd give the Ford the overall win. I'd love a 4BT powered H1 though, that's pretty sweet. __________________ “Is it ignorance or apathy? Hey, I don't know and I don't care.”

06-24-2007, 04:44 PM	#21 (permalink)
f250rollinon37s MASTER TECH Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 54844 Location: Northern cali Posts: 3,435	did anyone else notice the strap angle ? pulling up on the fords rear ? mechanical advantage - i had a similer buff with my 95 f250 and a 92 cummins - he was 7900 lbs - i was 4700 - with a flat strap - i won i 2wd - but in 4 - he would drag me without slipping a tire - i guess over 4k on the front axle didnt hurt - it made for some good pics - will find them if i can __________________ BSW Racing, Calrocs Super mods 12 & ? Driver: Aaron Whitehead - Driver: Joe Hutchins Spotter: Adam Kovarik - Spotter: Dustin Knight Crew Cheif: me fuckers build up of the truggy /forum/ford/544813-update-pics.html

06-24-2007, 05:58 PM	#22 (permalink)
TJVigilante Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68805 Location: Cold ass Interior Alaska Posts: 1,281	Strap angle, ford only started spinning when the driveshaft broke, and cameradouche yelling stop and cutting off when the ford starts pulling easy. Lame.

06-25-2007, 02:00 AM	#24 (permalink)
pizzaboy Wheeler Join Date: May 2005 Member # 48268 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 177	lame x2 i doubt that the creators of this video had any idea of even a quarter of the physics at play in a pull off. __________________ 99 TJ on 44" pitbulls, mog 404's and some other crap Check out my 'hood's 4x4 forum: Reno4x4.com

06-25-2007, 08:20 AM	#25 (permalink)
kibblerange Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 48179 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 367	lamex3 But it was funnay when the camera guy goes "You broke a driveshaft" I don't know it made me laugh Oh... and wheres the tech? __________________ '01 PSD . '06 LJ . '85 Rock Ricer

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