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yjjosh · 12-27-2008, 10:05 PM

I have a set of 5 H1 8bolt Double bead locks. They painted right over the threads on the bolts. I cant seem to get the nut off the bolts to recenter them. The military put a couple layers of incredibly tough paint on them.

I got most of the threads clean with a wire wheel on my grinder. I was gentle so as not to gum up the threads.

I used my impact on them which is not very strong only 260ft/lbs. I just got another impact for Christmas that is 340ft/lbs. I'll try that but I thought someone might be able to help out.

The bolt I cleaned

The bolt I did not clean but went after with my impact.

A bolt that I haven't even messed with.

The whole wheel.

The Rockslut · 12-27-2008, 10:07 PM

Uh, start spraying stuff on there and let it sit for a few days.

yjjosh · 12-27-2008, 10:11 PM

elaborate on stuff.

tacoma73 · 12-28-2008, 12:22 AM

SPRAY THE FAWK OUT OF THEM!!!!!! With penetrating oil, ie: STUFF

You'll need to start them all with a breaker bar and a deep socket. I'm in the middle of doing 8 of these right now...

when they start to go, squirt some motor oil on them, so you don't have to hear the horrible squeaking x 32.

058hamer · 12-28-2008, 10:11 AM

Try some spray on gasket remover first it some times it will eat the paint. Once the paint is gone soak em real good with pbblaster. Hope this helps.

Honda06 · 12-28-2008, 12:37 PM

apply some heat to them.

stjames151 · 12-29-2008, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 058hamer

Try some spray on gasket remover first it some times it will eat the paint. Once the paint is gone soak em real good with pbblaster. Hope this helps.

CARC is chem resistant paint. A good penetrating oil will work fine. Heat will also help but the fumes are going to be VERY toxic with that stuff. The wire wheel is a good idea, but make sure to run a die over them when you're done if you want them to last. Unfortunately this job requires the BFBB (big fawkin breaker bar) approach.

mudskipper4x4 · 01-04-2009, 02:31 PM

Just to throw it out there that carc paint isn't very good stuff to inhale if you are using a grinder with a wire wheel. Ask me how I know after a few CPAC's in the USMC. Use a least a mask or even a filtered respirator if you got one. Just a thought, cuz your health is nothing to play around with.

yjjosh · 01-05-2009, 12:26 PM

Thanks for the info guys. I'll try these Ideas and let you know what worked.

Mutinious · 01-05-2009, 02:31 PM

i had the same issue on the rims i got but i used as much force as i had to and i couldnt seem to screw anything up. I replaced the nuts because they were fucked from the get go but those studs are tough and you can really lay on em.

doctoroctos · 01-07-2009, 10:46 PM

Angle grinder, grind off the nut, right near the surface, then use a hammer to poke the bolt through. Replace the bolt. They are about a $1 each. Should be replaced anyways by the look of them.

gr8pumkin · 01-09-2009, 08:59 AM

Go buy pb blaster, it has yet to fail me spray it a couple times for one day and come back the next and they will come right off. Pb blaster is a penetrating lube.

jesster · 01-09-2009, 09:07 AM

PB Blaster and an impact with some balls.

12-27-2008, 10:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
yjjosh Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75506 Posts: 56	H1 wheel help needed with pics. I have a set of 5 H1 8bolt Double bead locks. They painted right over the threads on the bolts. I cant seem to get the nut off the bolts to recenter them. The military put a couple layers of incredibly tough paint on them. I got most of the threads clean with a wire wheel on my grinder. I was gentle so as not to gum up the threads. I used my impact on them which is not very strong only 260ft/lbs. I just got another impact for Christmas that is 340ft/lbs. I'll try that but I thought someone might be able to help out. The bolt I cleaned The bolt I did not clean but went after with my impact. A bolt that I haven't even messed with. The whole wheel.

12-27-2008, 10:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
The Rockslut Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5021 Location: Lincoln, CA Posts: 5,967	Uh, start spraying stuff on there and let it sit for a few days. __________________ Don't be "THAT GUY" on the trail. www.voodoowax.com

12-28-2008, 12:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
tacoma73 be cool, baby Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17896 Location: tooele UT Posts: 3,048	SPRAY THE FAWK OUT OF THEM!!!!!! With penetrating oil, ie: STUFF You'll need to start them all with a breaker bar and a deep socket. I'm in the middle of doing 8 of these right now... when they start to go, squirt some motor oil on them, so you don't have to hear the horrible squeaking x 32. __________________ Utah 4-Wheel Drive Association---Blue Ribbon Coalition---USA-ALL---Tread Lightly Last edited by tacoma73; 12-28-2008 at 12:23 AM.

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Honda06 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Member # 97478 Location: Tennnessee Posts: 34	Stuck nuts apply some heat to them.

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12-27-2008, 10:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
yjjosh Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75506 Posts: 56	elaborate on stuff.

12-28-2008, 10:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
058hamer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24417 Location: maine Posts: 180	Try some spray on gasket remover first it some times it will eat the paint. Once the paint is gone soak em real good with pbblaster. Hope this helps.

01-04-2009, 02:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
mudskipper4x4 AllUpInYourFace Join Date: May 2006 Member # 72951 Location: in a van down by the river Posts: 1,629	Just to throw it out there that carc paint isn't very good stuff to inhale if you are using a grinder with a wire wheel. Ask me how I know after a few CPAC's in the USMC. Use a least a mask or even a filtered respirator if you got one. Just a thought, cuz your health is nothing to play around with.

01-05-2009, 12:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
yjjosh Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75506 Posts: 56	Thanks for the info guys. I'll try these Ideas and let you know what worked.

01-05-2009, 02:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mutinious Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Member # 98789 Location: Montanya Posts: 50	i had the same issue on the rims i got but i used as much force as i had to and i couldnt seem to screw anything up. I replaced the nuts because they were fucked from the get go but those studs are tough and you can really lay on em.

01-07-2009, 10:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
doctoroctos Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 126870 Posts: 26	Angle grinder, grind off the nut, right near the surface, then use a hammer to poke the bolt through. Replace the bolt. They are about a $1 each. Should be replaced anyways by the look of them.

01-09-2009, 08:59 AM	#12 (permalink)
gr8pumkin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 31504 Location: Loomis, Ca Posts: 341	Go buy pb blaster, it has yet to fail me spray it a couple times for one day and come back the next and they will come right off. Pb blaster is a penetrating lube.

01-09-2009, 09:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
jesster Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 49468 Location: Rogersville, TN Posts: 1,404	PB Blaster and an impact with some balls.