bye bye humvee

[Citzen_Hawk]

http://defensetech.org/2010/02/01/bye-bye-humvee/

"It's with great sadness that I report to you that Pentagon Comptroller Robert Hale just said at his briefing that 2010 would be the last year that the Pentagon would buy the venerable High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle.
Budget documents released today show that the the Pentagon is devoting about $1 million to replace war losses of Humvees, but will buy none over and above the current numbers. The Pentagon budgeted for about 8,000 Humvees in FY 2010 to the tune of $1.3 billion.
We'll likely get more info on how serious the Army is about the JLTV, the Humvee's replacement, at the Army breakout in a few minutes. But it's just gigantic that the newest budget zeros out funds for the Humvee. Since about 1985, the Humvee has served very well in a variety of roles both as its originally intended support vehicle role and as a no joke combat vehicle in Iraq and Afghanistan. About 100,000 have been produced in various configurations for the US military.
I've logged many hours in Humvees of various configurations and I had to good fortune to travel to Mishawaka, Ind., and South Bend, to see the production facility and drive the AM General test track in an uparmored Humvee. I'm psyched about the possibilities of the JLTV and feel that it's high time we moved away from the Humvee, but I'll look back with great affection at that cramped, dusty, bumpy, creaky, stinky, hot, bull-dog-tough truck.

UPDATE: Army Lt. Gen. Edgar Stanton said at the breakout that "we reached the end of the line with the Humvee a sooner than we expected." Fewer losses in Iraq and Afghanistan and the introduction of the M-ATV makes for "fewer uses for the Humvee."

[bowtied_micky]

Hopefully a flood of surplus stuff is coming...

[boom harvey]

I am really glad the Goverment has decided that it is time to turn its back on a vehicle that they are using for things it was never intended to do. The vehicle was never designed to be up armored, it was a go fast get in get out troop mover, not suppoed to be the jack of all trades truck and replace the Jeeps, Blazers, and deuce and a halfs.

[HardcorewannabeXJ]

So a military H1 costs about $162,500? Seems like a lot for a dumbed down simple H1, but that may include some uparmoring I suppose.

[Bebe]

Originally Posted by HardcorewannabeXJ

So a military H1 costs about $162,500? Seems like a lot for a dumbed down simple H1, but that may include some uparmoring I suppose.

The Last H1 sold for 140K - Humvees (which are very different and yes not a plush, but definitely not simple) at 162K doesn't seem that far off to me. Computers, up armor etc.

I hope we'll see some surplus but I doubt it, they can't be sold anymore to the public, and anything left will be used for parts. They are still going to have about 1 billion budget in parts over the next few years.

PS, I voted for you :-P

[tjkj2002]

Originally Posted by HardcorewannabeXJ

So a military H1 costs about $162,500? Seems like a lot for a dumbed down simple H1, but that may include some uparmoring I suppose.

A base HMMWV is about $40,000-$50,000,the uparmoring adds another $90,000-$120,000 to the price tag.

[1st Recline Bn]

Originally Posted by tjkj2002

A base HMMWV is about $40,000-$50,000,the uparmoring adds another $90,000-$120,000 to the price tag.

plus radios, blue force trackers, CVRJ/Duke systems, and the rhino.

here is some pics of the replacement and the JLTV WIKI
http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_01.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_L...ctical_Vehicle

[durcrim]

Is it just me?

[boogerboss]

Originally Posted by durcrim

Is it just me?

That's funny.
(from the Associated dePress)
"Obama defense budget calls for the purchase of Pontiac Aztecs and welding 1/2 inch plate steel to them for the new military vehicle. its plan is to cut unnecessary budget over expenditures, recycle vehicles from the cash for clunkers program, and further assist GM financially....."

[duncanstives]

Originally Posted by durcrim

is it just me?

lmfao... Pwnt.

[Black06]

Hopefully the surplus parts will be available to auctions in a few years and not marked for the scrap pile or "mulitation".

[Humminnboatin]

Keep in mind the US military is not the only purchaser of the HMMWV.

[Forumboarder1]

it looks like a rc car!!! haha

[XJben]

there had to be more than 100,000 produced for our military since the late 80s?

[Black06]

so when can we expect the surplus humvees to hit Government Liquidatiors?

[offroadjunkie]

Originally Posted by Black06

so when can we expect the surplus humvees to hit Government Liquidatiors?

they wont ever hit the auctions. One of the government agencies said they can no longer be sold to the public because they do not pass crash testing and seat belts i think..... regardless of the reason they will not be at the public auctions. parts my filter their way down, you can buy a 6.2L diesel motor for like $300 from the pickups, maybe we will get the 6.5Ls from the hmvs down the road... who knows.

[Black06]

Originally Posted by offroadjunkie

they wont ever hit the auctions. One of the government agencies said they can no longer be sold to the public because they do not pass crash testing and seat belts i think..... regardless of the reason they will not be at the public auctions. parts my filter their way down, you can buy a 6.2L diesel motor for like $300 from the pickups, maybe we will get the 6.5Ls from the hmvs down the road... who knows.

damnit

all I want is a rolling chassis to turn into a trail vehicle with a 4bt cummins

[offroadjunkie]

Originally Posted by Black06

damnit

all I want is a rolling chassis to turn into a trail vehicle with a 4bt cummins

you can get one. Some were released to the public. But because no more are coming i would think they demand a large price tag.

[K-TRON]

My neighbor has a Hummer H1 with the 6.5Gm Diesel V8.
Besides it getting 8mpg on a good day, it also sucks offroading. Every time he has taken it off road, he snaps one part of the rear drivetrain. I think he says that the knuckles is the part which breaks. After replacing it four times, he refuses to take it off road.
It is a very intimidating truck, moreso than the plastic pieces of junk which superseded it. It is very rough on the highway, and you can only go about 55mph in it before the handling goes all of the way down the drain. On a good note, when someone slashed his tires at the local shopping mall, he drove home with the air compressor on. That is a really cool feature but makes for very expensive tires.

There are much better offroad vehicles for the money that is for sure.
My friend has a M35 which he is swapping a 400horse Big Cam Cummins into. It will make for one sweet truck. He has a 8000 series Dana Spicer auxiliary behind the 5 speed eaton to keep the rpm's down at highway speed.

Chris

[BigKofJustice]

Sounds like your friend isn't maintaining his truck.

Unless it's a gasser he should be getting 12-15 mpg depending on how he drives it. Mine gets 13-15 [after breaking down cardlock fuel receipts over the last 3 years].

If there's drive line [rumbling] issues driving past 55mph then he has some issue he needs to address, worn pitman/idler, bent center link, worn bushings, etc.

Sounds like your friend needs to fix his truck and learn how to drive it.

[Bebe]

Sounds like his friend is a tool and doesn't have a clue. He should sell it ASAP.

[K-TRON]

Not to be condescending towards my friend, he is a nice guy, but he is quite foolish sometimes. I wouldnt let him work on my rig, and I am younger than he is. He has had it for 4 yrs now, and has just more than 50,000miles on it. It could be a nice vehicle, but he hasnt had such great luck with it. His is the diesel 6.5L V8. What a disgrace that motor is, it shouldnt even be called a Detroit Diesel. His buddy has a beige one with a Cummins 4BT in it, and he gets like 17-18mpg with it. I would also bet that the 4 cylinder cummins has more brute than the 6.5 v8.

After getting a ride in a big old Oshkosh, I really started to appreciate how cool some of this big old machinery is.

Chris

[atvobsession]

Originally Posted by K-TRON

My neighbor has a Hummer H1 with the 6.5Gm Diesel V8.
Besides it getting 8mpg on a good day

Your friend isn't maintaining it or something is SERIOUSLY wrong. I owned a 2001 H1 for nearly 2 years. I got 12MPG (Mix driving) and 14MPG...sometimes 15MPG, if I was easy on the throttle.

NEVER, ever got under 10MPG.

Originally Posted by K-TRON

, it also sucks offroading. Every time he has taken it off road, he snaps one part of the rear drivetrain. I think he says that the knuckles is the part which breaks. After replacing it four times, he refuses to take it off road.
It is a very intimidating truck, moreso than the plastic pieces of junk which superseded it. It is very rough on the highway, and you can only go about 55mph in it before the handling goes all of the way down the drain. On a

Something is WAY off. 65MPH is no problem. 70 was ok. 75, it was whining.

Originally Posted by K-TRON

good note, when someone slashed his tires at the local shopping mall, he drove home with the air compressor on. That is a really cool feature but makes for very expensive tires.

The world is full of ignorant people. I actually had a guy in a Suburban, flip me off....I GUARANTEE I got better mileage than him.