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Old 02-16-2012, 09:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Mystery axle

My '64 'binder has a Dana 44 front axle that doesn't seem to have much in common with the various Dana 44 ID notes.

Does not have date-BOM (or anything) cast/stamped into the long side near the pumpkin. Gone through the grease, through the paint, down to metal.

On the pumpkin itself: lower axle brace cast flange, driver side: 44-1F
Lower axle brace cast flange, short (passenger side), top row: US-PAT
2nd row: 1966 016
bottom row:208 188

Ratio tag, 11-45 4.09

Upper driver side axle brace flange, HIL0 32

Whatever is this thing? I know it's a Dana 44 of some sort, but can't find any documentation anywhere..
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Why does it matter? Gear ratios are easy to figure out and if it's broken put a newer axle under it.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Why does it matter? Gear ratios are easy to figure out and if it's broken put a newer axle under it.
It's not broken

The gear ratio tag I can figure out.

I'm trying to find out if some spindle/hub parts are interchangeable on Dana 44 closed knuckle axles.

I'm beginning to wonder if this is actually a Dana axle. If not, what is it? sure looks like one, but the Dana site says, first thing, all Dana axles have cast in date and BOM. I've cleaned the long side, front and bottom, from the diff. casting to the spring perch, there is nothing there but smooth steel.. Will now get mirror and have a look at the back and top..
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So, you don't like the answer you're getting on the Binder Planet and you come over here? Most of the people here who will answer you are the same people there that will answer you.


Regardless you bought an IH truck, with a big six lug pattern, it isn't going to be easy! Find someone selling a matched set from a Chevy, 44 front and 60/14 bolt read and swap them in. There problem solved, easy to find parts.
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So, you don't like the answer you're getting on the Binder Planet and you come over here? Most of the people here who will answer you are the same people there that will answer you.


Regardless you bought an IH truck, with a big six lug pattern, it isn't going to be easy! Find someone selling a matched set from a Chevy, 44 front and 60/14 bolt read and swap them in. There problem solved, easy to find parts.
It is just like binder planet. Either place, I ask a question, I get attitude. I know how to change axles, I know how to convert to disk brakes. But that's not what I asked. I asked about specific information about a Dana 44 axle.

If you don't have a clue, you might just remain silent, and no one will suspect.

Smartass is NOT a replacement for knowledge, dude..
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Maybe you'll get lucky and Thomas on the binder planet will give you an answer
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If you don't have a clue, you might just remain silent, and no one will suspect.

Smartass is NOT a replacement for knowledge, dude..
I suggest you take you own advice.

You're axle is not a "mystery axle" it's the same Dana 44 closed knuckle IH used in all early 60's era trucks. It's not special and neither are you...well I take that back, you're the window licking helmet wearing kinda special for sure.

There I answer your question, now go away, sell you IH and buy a fucking Ford so someone can hold the bogger picker you call a hand and help you fix it.
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Will do, soon as I figure out how..
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Will do, soon as I figure out how..
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Hmm.. Says here I may not post attachments. So much for pics.
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OK. "Thread display options", in the user cp has this selected:
"Show Images (including attached images and images in [IMG] code)"
So I don't know why it won't post my JPEGS, unless it wants 's translated to IMG, which I can't do.
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I suggest you take you own advice.

You're axle is not a "mystery axle" it's the same Dana 44 closed knuckle IH used in all early 60's era trucks. It's not special and neither are you...well I take that back, you're the window licking helmet wearing kinda special for sure.

There I answer your question, now go away, sell you IH and buy a fucking Ford so someone can hold the bogger picker you call a hand and help you fix it.
(sigh) So many unsupervised children out at this time of day..

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Read the faq, buy a star posting a picture is not hard. Well I am guessing if you are to stupid to read the FAQ then posting a picture my be damn near impossable for you. Some guys need to stick to Jeeps, Binders are just to hard to work on.

Hmm, I see by the three or four replys to your on post you need Daddy to help you with the "putter", it amazes me the stupidity that comes along here.
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Maybe you'll get lucky and Thomas on the binder planet will give you an answer
OP this is the best advice yet. Find user Thomas on BP and send him a PM and ask him to reply to your thread. You will get all the information you could ever imagine.
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Read the faq, buy a star posting a picture is not hard. Well I am guessing if you are to stupid to read the FAQ then posting a picture my be damn near impossable for you. Some guys need to stick to Jeeps, Binders are just to hard to work on.

Hmm, I see by the three or four replys to your on post you need Daddy to help you with the "putter", it amazes me the stupidity that comes along here.
You are correct, I didn't read the faq.

I'm not interested enough in posting pictures here to pay to do it...
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Might just have to suck it up and go out to say a wrecking yard and do some actual work yourself other than relying on the internet to do it for you. I bet you let your kids play video games all damn day long too huh. Then again, if you have kids god help us...
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You are correct, I didn't read the faq.

I'm not interested enough in posting pictures here to pay to do it...
Then how are we suposed to help you if we can't see what you are looking at? If you don't help yourself some with searching and reading, don't expext us to give a damn.
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If you read the Dana website, it says that info for pre-70's axles is spotty at best. Even info for newer axles isnt always there.


Heres some hand holding for you.... Most of the older D44's used the same parts across the manufacturers board. Ford being a little different but still sharing a lot of parts. If you found a list of parts needed to convert 'X' axle to disc brakes, it will probably work on yours.

In the end, you'll wish you just put in a chevy axle and been money/time ahead.

kay, thnx, bye.
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Then how are we suposed to help you if we can't see what you are looking at? If you don't help yourself some with searching and reading, don't expext us to give a damn.
I don't expect you to give a damn.

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There's only a couple guys that really know the old IH junk and Diesel Smoke is one of them. So pissing in his Cheerios is not the best way to get info.
1964, dude those axles are almost 50 years old. Upgrade to something in the 80's at least.
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There's only a couple guys that really know the old IH junk and Diesel Smoke is one of them. So pissing in his Cheerios is not the best way to get info.
1964, dude those axles are almost 50 years old. Upgrade to something in the 80's at least.
Why? He already spent $500 to get the drums re-surfaced.
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