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Old 08-12-2014, 12:06 PM   #201 (permalink)
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If you are getting those axles, find rims that will fit on them.

I'm not sure if anyone makes/has 10 lug to 8 lug conversion adapters.

Even if you get the nice rims cheap, the adapters will be pricey.

So, I'd either find axles that would work with the rims or find rims that work with the axles.

Keep in mind custom stuff is cool... but if it breaks, you are stuck until the custom stuff can be remade.
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Looking for something like this?




Found that in here
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If you Google image search "24" 10 lug adapter" you can come up with a set with a link to midweststreetrydersforum.com as a for sale post. Cant tell how old it is or anything, work keeps blocking access to the sight which is about normal. They block me from here off and on too though.
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Old 08-12-2014, 02:08 PM   #204 (permalink)
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Found that in here
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YES! However I think I'll be having to make my own.
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If you Google image search "24" 10 lug adapter" you can come up with a set with a link to midweststreetrydersforum.com as a for sale post. Cant tell how old it is or anything, work keeps blocking access to the sight which is about normal. They block me from here off and on too though.

Check and checked

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Post was in 2009 but thanks and I'll keep looking. This will probably be a custom cut. Here was his pic.
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Old 08-12-2014, 02:14 PM   #205 (permalink)
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I have also thought of enlarging the pilot hole to my own size to juuuuust clear the stud nuts. But after looking at that last post and what he did to his rims to make them fit his ford, I'm not sure if there is enough meat left for strength....

22.5 or + alcoa simi rims - Page 3 - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
Here's a couple pics that he took.


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Old 08-12-2014, 02:49 PM   #206 (permalink)
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I wouldn't turn them like that to fit. If you look at the pic of the adapter and the way the nuts are centered between the larger ones, have that milled out to clear the nut for the smaller pattern. Should have more than enough strength going that way.

Not a paint master but something like this.
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So just mill (basically cut out the spot where the IH's lug nuts would go) out the rim to just clear the lug nuts.... Hmmmmm. I think I like that idea.

Gonna have to make a "Beauty Rim" to cover those nasty holes. I could spin a nice cap that has a flange that I put on before the Alcoa nuts go on.
Or I just do this and be done with it. Alcoa Wheels North America: Products: Product Technology: Accessories: Heavy Duty Trucks - Hub Cover Systems


Chit, now I'm shopping for crap I don't even have yet!
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Old 08-25-2014, 01:57 PM   #208 (permalink)
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All right. I had some measurements taken, they were off. I finally was able to pick up a rim for better measurements. Redrew and I cut a sample piece to match up.
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Here is what I will need to cut from the Alcoa Rim so that I can bolt it to the IH hub and adapter plate. You'll notice the IH hubs lug pattern is almost dead center with the Alcoa's pilot hub hole.


Video of Alcoa 10 lug sample template. 18GA CRS off of a C1 Amada combo. (What I run in the show room)
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Old 08-26-2014, 09:17 AM   #209 (permalink)
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Well, looks like everything matches up. Now I need to buy some studs to verify the correct size hole. I'll need to know the depth to machine the countersink on the back side of the plate to recess the studs head so they sit flush.




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Got any pictures of your light bar build or what you have done to the interior?
The rim idea looks pretty good, that old loadstar won't know what to do with the bling.
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Old 09-02-2014, 02:17 PM   #211 (permalink)
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The light bar was something between a Dakar style light bar and a roof rack. It's currently unfinished as I will be taking the top bar along the whole roof to the back combined with a ladder to get onto the roof.

Not much pictures of the Rack build but my friends from LEADFOOT Offroad did my bending and fab work.




As far as the inside, not much has changed since my first removal and temporary skin job and temporary bed platforms. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/inter...l#post15079144


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Old 09-17-2014, 10:04 AM   #212 (permalink)
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What a great build of an old Loadstar!

It has so much potential and you have named it appropriately. It makes the Ford Expedition look like a pretender to the name!

If anyone is truly looking for a 4X4 bus, we have one for sale that has a DT466/MT643 in it: http://showroom.auction123.com/thebu...6VH454131.html
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If anyone is truly looking for a 4X4 bus, we have one for sale that has a DT466/MT643 in it: http://showroom.auction123.com/thebu...6VH454131.html
Dang you guys need a new camera if you ever plan to sell things online!
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Old 10-17-2014, 06:05 PM   #214 (permalink)
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I just came across these on a different forum and this thread came to mind.

One 22 5 x 8 25 Forged Blank New Aluminum Wheels | eBay

22.5 x8.5 blanks, if you're already having machine work done to wheels, you could start with those and forgo the adapters.
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Not a bad idea, I'll need to look into water jetting. I don't think I can Mill something that large...
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Any new progress on the beast?
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Ok, I have looked online about those before. Not really knowing what I'm getting myself into with axles above the 1 ton status is above my tech knowledge. Same goes with Rockwells. However I am not against it as my option. Something of that size I would have tons of questions about.

Lets say 4000 military axles are the route. Will I need more breaking force from my Hydro/Air assisted booster setup already or would it handle those massive calipers?
Obviously it would solve my Rim issues with a set of HMETT's and I can practically get any type of tire being a 20" rim.

I guess I should start looking for some 4000's. Gonna have to make a call to Hundy....
I have been following your build and I just bought those same axles. I am considering putting them in my Kaiser M725 Ambulance

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I have been following your build and I just bought those same axles. I am considering putting them in my Kaiser M725 Ambulance

I have some M715/725 projects along with my Loadstars and have thought the same thing.
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What tranny is behind the V8 in the Loadstar?
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Any new progress on the beast?
Recently pulled all my temporary blow up bed platforms. Labeled and pulled out Insulation and hoping the next available weekend to cut out 2 bins from inside the box.
Been at it again with getting an adapter made for the 24.5 Alcoa's but after reading a post about some blanks from Alocoa I might go that direction. The cost might out weight adapters and a piece of mind that there is now extra parts.

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I have been following your build and I just bought those same axles. I am considering putting them in my Kaiser M725 Ambulance

I think axles will be my last resort since the axles I have are already pretty brut and work. Axles will be replaced way after I get a Diesel in this beast. Looking at a DT360 with a 6 speed Allison.

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What tranny is behind the V8 in the Loadstar?
Well I'm running a 345 IH and I believe it's a 4 speed granny. T38? I don't recall. No matter what I am always starting off in second. 1st is ridiculously low specially with the 6.50 something gearing in the axles.
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6.50, wow. That's approaching M35A2 territory
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WOW! Those are gorgeous!
Post up your link to the build thread.
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I will, but I need to finish my Willys MB first.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/jeep-...lt-willys.html
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Old 10-01-2015, 05:59 PM   #225 (permalink)
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Any updates to this BEAST?
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