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Old 08-05-2016, 02:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've worked on lots of vehicles but never a scout. A friend of my wife's likes scouts and wanted to restore one he owns since young. It is a basket case that is stuck in a field in Northern CA and he is west of Portland in Oregon.

He found this Scout on CL and asked my opinion. I thought this scout looked OK so I told him to buy it. He and his kids can enjoy this today. It does need some work, and he wants to modify it some. That's where pirate comes in, hopefully.

It's a 1977 Traveler. It looked like a fair deal.

The guy that owns it wants to do suspension. He thinks he needs a 4 inch lift to run 32's or 33's. Since it's on 31 now I'm thinking it needs less. Who makes good suspension for these things? His goal seems to be to run down dirt roads and take his kids camping, also to take them for ice cream in town during the summer.
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He is also concerned that he has no stabilizer bar and the steering feels wonky. We agree that it probably needs all new bushings fwiw. I'm thinking this stabilizer bar isn't really needed. He currently doesn't have it.
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Found a pic of CL ad. It was this or XJ/ZJ but this guy likes Scouts.
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If he is staying stock/mild it will be better to read on the BinderPlanet, or Binder Bench - Binder Bench.

Pirate is a little more hardcore than this guy is looking for.
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If he is staying stock/mild it will be better to read on the BinderPlanet, or Binder Bench - Binder Bench.

Pirate is a little more hardcore than this guy is looking for.
I figured, but Pirate is my spot and he asked me. Thanks though!
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Not sure on the scout 2 but on an 800 33's fit with 2-2.5" lift.
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Where is he west of Portland?

You don't "need" the sway bar, but it does help some. A decent set of new springs and bushing would do it allot more than that bar, but I might have one laying around somewhere he could have.

For stuff like that I usually deal with IHPA out of Grass Valley.

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Lincoln City.

And if anybody needs a sweet roll bar, he removed his
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Where is he west of Portland?

You don't "need" the sway bar, but it does help some. A decent set of new springs and bushing would do it allot more than that bar, but I might have one laying around somewhere he could have.

For stuff like that I usually deal with IHPA out of Grass Valley.

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There are several people in the western Oregon area that have a collection of decent parts if it asked around about....
Any preference on spring mfg's?


Let me know if you have that bar please.
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That sweet roll bar looks like something that would come from Lincoln city

I'll keep an eye out in the next couple of days and see if the bar turns turns up.
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That sweet roll bar looks like something that would come from Lincoln city

I'll keep an eye out in the next couple of days and see if the bar turns turns up.
Thanks!

Roll bar is removed now.
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On springs I tend to stay away from Rough Country. They tend to ride ruff and every set I have ever installed it seems they start to sag in the ass within a year.

Also, shackle reversal, will make a huge difference in the ride and handling.

The sticker shock on this is pretty bad, but if I was doing one from the beginning again, I would just bite the bullet and go with this.

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If he calls them up they are pretty good on talking through it and can get him set up with something else if it would fit his needs better.

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x2 on the shackle reversal and I loved my Skyjacker soft ride springs, they come in 2.5 or 4 inch flavors
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He is also concerned that he has no stabilizer bar and the steering feels wonky. We agree that it probably needs all new bushings fwiw. I'm thinking this stabilizer bar isn't really needed. He currently doesn't have it.
If i'm correct the castor angle stock is 0 degrees. That makes them feel wonky.
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Where is he west of Portland?

You don't "need" the sway bar, but it does help some. A decent set of new springs and bushing would do it allot more than that bar, but I might have one laying around somewhere he could have.

For stuff like that I usually deal with IHPA out of Grass Valley.

IH Parts America

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Did you ever find this? Just curious.


He tuned the engine up and now that it runs on all 8 cylinders it's a dream. Previous owner only had 5 spark plug wires connected.
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I haven't seen it yet, but there are a couple more parts pikes I haven't torn into yet.

A stock engine when tunes up and running good are a very nice engine, they are just heavy and not a Hugh mpg engine.
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I haven't seen it yet, but there are a couple more parts pikes I haven't torn into yet.

A stock engine when tunes up and running good are a very nice engine, they are just heavy and not a Hugh mpg engine.
Yeah, it was backfiring, so he rebuilt the carb and checked the distributor. Still backfired. Spark plug boots were on but wires weren't connected.
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Hey Frank, you are a long way from chit-chat

+1 for IH Parts America whether he wants a basic lift kit, or goes for the reverse shackle kit. It will ride better with tbe reverse shackle.

Stock caster is shitty ~ 0 and if the bushings are worn out or longer front shackles make it worse.

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So I have looked everywhere for that Frick end sway bar and could never find it, was getting something out of the loft today and found it stashed up there for some reason. I am thinking my brother might have been being nice and put it up there for me.
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So I have looked everywhere for that Frick end sway bar and could never find it, was getting something out of the loft today and found it stashed up there for some reason. I am thinking my brother might have been being nice and put it up there for me.
Thanks, but he ended up buying one.
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My Scout looked perfect with a 4" lift on 33"s
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My Scout looked perfect with a 4" lift on 33"s
That's what he ended up with. I'll try to get a pic come summertime.
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