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jhama78 · 05-03-2002, 08:31 AM

Greetings binder freaks, I am writing to get possible suggestions of what to do with my newest purchase. Its a 76(i think) traveller with a 345, tf 727 and d 20 i think, it was a buds of mine but he got a 1 ton chev and sold the IH to me. So far its got gm d 44 f and 12 bolt rear sprung over with stock springs. It looks the same as in the pics minus the tires and rollbar. I have a set of old ass 35x14 ground hawgs for it to roll around on until I got wheeling and then I will put my 36 sx's on it off of my toyota. Anyway just wanted to see if ya had any suggestions of what to/not to do or things to look for. Thanks for any and all suggestions, I feel like a newbie again.

jhama78 · 05-03-2002, 08:32 AM

I also have a gm 14 bolt "in stock" right now...I gave thought to swapping it in but I dont know if i will need it...Whatcha think

Tydes · 05-03-2002, 09:48 PM

BOB IT!!

pitter · 05-03-2002, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by Tydes
BOB IT!!

lockers and dual t cases. and fender cuttin

Snoopy · 05-04-2002, 11:24 AM

Go full width front and rear, 38+, bob the back end and make it look good. 1/4 elliptic is best and allows you to take 18" off the back (or more). link both ends and call it good. You should be able to hang at Hollister with that.

Scouttoo · 05-04-2002, 01:37 PM

Just 'wheel the piss out of it!:

Bindernut · 05-04-2002, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by Snoopy
Go full width front and rear

Damian,

Did you even read his post? Maybe look at the pictures?

Dude, just lock it up, throw a divorced 205 behind the d20, and wheel it, it'll do great!

TERRA-IZER · 05-04-2002, 04:02 PM

Weld the rearend up and wheel the crap out of it the way it is till something breaks then up grade. Looks like you have a great starting point.

Hayraker · 05-04-2002, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snoopy
Go full width front and rear,

jdjanda · 05-05-2002, 08:27 PM

Hey is that full-width

Scoutaholic · 05-05-2002, 08:47 PM

GM D 44 front and 12 bolt rear. Sounds like full size Blazer stuff to me.

High5 · 05-05-2002, 08:58 PM

grind the big lip off of your 14bolt and swap it for the 12bolt. the extra beef will help and the size of the pumpkins will make you want 38's or larger

jhama78 · 05-06-2002, 11:35 AM

I was thinkin this past w/e about dual cases after a bud of mine showed me a dodge divorced np 205 that he had I need to investigat more most definitely.......I am definitley gonna weld the rear up for now and cut up the fenders so that my 36 sx's off of my toyota will fit it w/o cuttin them up. I will post pix after I do it all. Thanks guys keep the suggestions comin,

-j-rOd

SSGTWC · 05-06-2002, 08:54 PM

whatever ya do....don't paint. Leave it like it is!

It's perfect......if ya scratch it..the less you'll mind

just my .02

jhama78 · 05-07-2002, 07:40 AM

You mean a 5000 dollar show quality paint job with some safety yellow accents wouldnt be cool?!?!?

I thought yellow=speed=performance? If I do end up painting it I will utilize the flat grey background for a snow camo paint scheme, which will cost me about 25 bux in paint, a case of beer with a couple friends and a couple hours. Thanx fer da input.

-j-rOd

jdjanda · 05-07-2002, 08:47 AM

Throw the 35's on, weld up the rear, lunch box locker up front, and Tera gears you're ready for just over a grand. Get it out find out what else needs work and start building.

Joe

SSGTWC · 05-07-2002, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jhama78
You mean a 5000 dollar show quality paint job with some safety yellow accents wouldnt be cool?!?!? I thought yellow=speed=performance? If I do end up painting it I will utilize the flat grey background for a snow camo paint scheme, which will cost me about 25 bux in paint, a case of beer with a couple friends and a couple hours. Thanx fer da input.

-j-rOd

Ok I guess I should have been a bit more specific

SnowScoutII · 05-08-2002, 10:20 AM

Rattle can the piss out of it,bob it, stuff the 14 bolt in,lock it up.good luck on the snow camo, mine looked like a cow for the 1st 3 times I painted it,

but hey when it gets scratched I just throw more rattle can on it!

jhama78 · 05-08-2002, 11:20 AM

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good luck on the snow camo, mine looked like a cow for the 1st 3 times I painted it

Thanks man, I have done a coupel of snow camo jobs before and ure right its extremely hard to make it not look like a frickin gateway computer box. I am thinkin I am gonna do something similar to a cruiser I saw on here, it was kinda a girraffe lookin snow camo kinda deal. DOnt worry I will post pix when I start workin on it.

THanks for all the input guyz...anything else scout specific I should look for while doin this buildup?!?!?

-j-rOd

jhama78 · 05-08-2002, 12:14 PM

This is what I was thinkin bout doin...very similar to this, I think the owner of this rig goes by the name gunracer on PBB.

Hayraker · 05-08-2002, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jhama78
This is what I was thinkin bout doin...very similar to this, I think the owner of this rig goes by the name gunracer on PBB.

your not going to copy him are ya? I heard that that guy was

jhama78 · 05-09-2002, 07:46 PM

I think im gonna pull the cover on my 14 bolt this weekend and check out its guts...If its got deeper gears than the 12 bolt thats already in the truck im gonna insert tab A into slot B. Thanks for all the input fellas.

-j-rOd

muskyman · 05-09-2002, 09:55 PM

i'm right there with ya

but i'd use something stronger then the duck tape that held them in there last ride

jhama78 · 05-10-2002, 05:00 AM

Thats one of my junkyard removal tactics for movin that heavy hog around, seatbelts cut out of nearby cars help with the handling especially dragging it out from under the truck I got it from. Two people need all the help that they can get while tryin to manhandle that beast.

-j-rOd

Mechanos · 05-10-2002, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by muskyman
i'm right there with ya

but i'd use something stronger then the duck tape *QUACK* that held them in there last ride

05-03-2002, 08:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
jhama78 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3377 Location: Eastern Shore, Va Posts: 3,892	How should I build it?!?! Greetings binder freaks, I am writing to get possible suggestions of what to do with my newest purchase. Its a 76(i think) traveller with a 345, tf 727 and d 20 i think, it was a buds of mine but he got a 1 ton chev and sold the IH to me. So far its got gm d 44 f and 12 bolt rear sprung over with stock springs. It looks the same as in the pics minus the tires and rollbar. I have a set of old ass 35x14 ground hawgs for it to roll around on until I got wheeling and then I will put my 36 sx's on it off of my toyota. Anyway just wanted to see if ya had any suggestions of what to/not to do or things to look for. Thanks for any and all suggestions, I feel like a newbie again. Attached Images __________________ -j-rOd [COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="3"][B][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654042"]85 Roach Build Thread[/URL] [/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="Silver"][B] 84 Toy Farm Beater 85 Toy Trail Roach 223:1 85 Toy SR5 xcab DD 88 4Runner Fambly Beach Ride 07 Dodge 2500 4x4 Quad Cab, 5.9 CTD[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="4"][FONT="Arial"]Nobody ever lays on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at work...[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

05-03-2002, 08:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
jhama78 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3377 Location: Eastern Shore, Va Posts: 3,892	heres the other pic I also have a gm 14 bolt "in stock" right now...I gave thought to swapping it in but I dont know if i will need it...Whatcha think Attached Images __________________ -j-rOd [COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="3"][B][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654042"]85 Roach Build Thread[/URL] [/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="Silver"][B] 84 Toy Farm Beater 85 Toy Trail Roach 223:1 85 Toy SR5 xcab DD 88 4Runner Fambly Beach Ride 07 Dodge 2500 4x4 Quad Cab, 5.9 CTD[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="4"][FONT="Arial"]Nobody ever lays on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at work...[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B] Last edited by jhama78; 05-03-2002 at 08:34 AM.

05-03-2002, 09:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tydes Battle Masher Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9255 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 1,835	BOB IT!! __________________ www.4Lockedfilms.com

05-04-2002, 11:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
Snoopy Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5650 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 4,520	Re: How should I build it?!?! Go full width front and rear, 38+, bob the back end and make it look good. 1/4 elliptic is best and allows you to take 18" off the back (or more). link both ends and call it good. You should be able to hang at Hollister with that.

05-05-2002, 08:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
jdjanda Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5982 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,292	Hey is that full-width __________________ Was that a comment meant to hurt? RU Dysfuncational http://thisdysfunctional.org/forum

05-04-2002, 01:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Scouttoo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8534 Posts: 24	Just 'wheel the piss out of it!:

05-04-2002, 04:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
TERRA-IZER Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4239 Location: Penrose Colorado Posts: 416	Weld the rearend up and wheel the crap out of it the way it is till something breaks then up grade. Looks like you have a great starting point.

05-05-2002, 08:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
Scoutaholic Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6804 Location: Everett WA Posts: 335	GM D 44 front and 12 bolt rear. Sounds like full size Blazer stuff to me.

05-05-2002, 08:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
High5 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1700 Location: TEXAS Posts: 4,308	grind the big lip off of your 14bolt and swap it for the 12bolt. the extra beef will help and the size of the pumpkins will make you want 38's or larger __________________ High5 IT'S 1TON O' FUN!

05-06-2002, 11:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
jhama78 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3377 Location: Eastern Shore, Va Posts: 3,892	I was thinkin this past w/e about dual cases after a bud of mine showed me a dodge divorced np 205 that he had I need to investigat more most definitely.......I am definitley gonna weld the rear up for now and cut up the fenders so that my 36 sx's off of my toyota will fit it w/o cuttin them up. I will post pix after I do it all. Thanks guys keep the suggestions comin, -j-rOd __________________ -j-rOd [COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="3"][B][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654042"]85 Roach Build Thread[/URL] [/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="Silver"][B] 84 Toy Farm Beater 85 Toy Trail Roach 223:1 85 Toy SR5 xcab DD 88 4Runner Fambly Beach Ride 07 Dodge 2500 4x4 Quad Cab, 5.9 CTD[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="4"][FONT="Arial"]Nobody ever lays on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at work...[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

05-06-2002, 08:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
SSGTWC Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10775 Location: Wamego, KS Posts: 822	whatever ya do....don't paint. Leave it like it is! It's perfect......if ya scratch it..the less you'll mind just my .02 __________________ [QUOTE=CAMO;4] [B] build what ya can with what you have and plan on redoing it a few dozen times as you learn the required skills [/B][/QUOTE] Never, underestimate the amount of stupidity in people!

05-07-2002, 07:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
jhama78 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3377 Location: Eastern Shore, Va Posts: 3,892	You mean a 5000 dollar show quality paint job with some safety yellow accents wouldnt be cool?!?!? I thought yellow=speed=performance? If I do end up painting it I will utilize the flat grey background for a snow camo paint scheme, which will cost me about 25 bux in paint, a case of beer with a couple friends and a couple hours. Thanx fer da input. -j-rOd __________________ -j-rOd [COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="3"][B][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654042"]85 Roach Build Thread[/URL] [/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="Silver"][B] 84 Toy Farm Beater 85 Toy Trail Roach 223:1 85 Toy SR5 xcab DD 88 4Runner Fambly Beach Ride 07 Dodge 2500 4x4 Quad Cab, 5.9 CTD[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="4"][FONT="Arial"]Nobody ever lays on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at work...[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

05-07-2002, 08:47 AM	#16 (permalink)
jdjanda Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5982 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,292	Throw the 35's on, weld up the rear, lunch box locker up front, and Tera gears you're ready for just over a grand. Get it out find out what else needs work and start building. Joe __________________ Was that a comment meant to hurt? RU Dysfuncational http://thisdysfunctional.org/forum

05-08-2002, 10:20 AM	#18 (permalink)
SnowScoutII Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10620 Location: Sacramento-Birthplace of the shitty drivers. Posts: 389	Rattle can the piss out of it,bob it, stuff the 14 bolt in,lock it up.good luck on the snow camo, mine looked like a cow for the 1st 3 times I painted it, but hey when it gets scratched I just throw more rattle can on it! __________________ In loving Memory R.I.P J.J.G 1983-2004 133rdCb's WickedFewPaintball.viviti.com

05-08-2002, 12:14 PM	#20 (permalink)
jhama78 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3377 Location: Eastern Shore, Va Posts: 3,892	This is what I was thinkin bout doin...very similar to this, I think the owner of this rig goes by the name gunracer on PBB. Attached Images __________________ -j-rOd [COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="3"][B][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654042"]85 Roach Build Thread[/URL] [/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="Silver"][B] 84 Toy Farm Beater 85 Toy Trail Roach 223:1 85 Toy SR5 xcab DD 88 4Runner Fambly Beach Ride 07 Dodge 2500 4x4 Quad Cab, 5.9 CTD[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="4"][FONT="Arial"]Nobody ever lays on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at work...[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

05-09-2002, 07:46 PM	#22 (permalink)
jhama78 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3377 Location: Eastern Shore, Va Posts: 3,892	14 bolt ponderings I think im gonna pull the cover on my 14 bolt this weekend and check out its guts...If its got deeper gears than the 12 bolt thats already in the truck im gonna insert tab A into slot B. Thanks for all the input fellas. -j-rOd Attached Images __________________ -j-rOd [COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="3"][B][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654042"]85 Roach Build Thread[/URL] [/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="Silver"][B] 84 Toy Farm Beater 85 Toy Trail Roach 223:1 85 Toy SR5 xcab DD 88 4Runner Fambly Beach Ride 07 Dodge 2500 4x4 Quad Cab, 5.9 CTD[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="4"][FONT="Arial"]Nobody ever lays on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at work...[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

05-09-2002, 09:55 PM	#23 (permalink)
muskyman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10335 Location: chicago area Posts: 261	i'm right there with ya but i'd use something stronger then the duck tape that held them in there last ride __________________ The Land Rover Forum Peanut Gallery

05-10-2002, 05:00 AM	#24 (permalink)
jhama78 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3377 Location: Eastern Shore, Va Posts: 3,892	Thats one of my junkyard removal tactics for movin that heavy hog around, seatbelts cut out of nearby cars help with the handling especially dragging it out from under the truck I got it from. Two people need all the help that they can get while tryin to manhandle that beast. -j-rOd __________________ -j-rOd [COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="3"][B][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654042"]85 Roach Build Thread[/URL] [/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="Silver"][B] 84 Toy Farm Beater 85 Toy Trail Roach 223:1 85 Toy SR5 xcab DD 88 4Runner Fambly Beach Ride 07 Dodge 2500 4x4 Quad Cab, 5.9 CTD[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="4"][FONT="Arial"]Nobody ever lays on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at work...[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

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