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Old 04-23-2010, 10:22 AM   #226 (permalink)
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So THAT is why you were getting rid of the leafs!
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All the work that was involved to link it, I'm thinking I should have stayed wth the leaves. Still more to do. Need to tie the trackbar mount into the diff housing, build pads for the air bumps, either relocate or trim the upper trackbar mount, square up the axles. Ordered up some crane high steer arms today. The sky arms on it now are very short, and I have only 2 1/4 turns lock to lock, so the steering reacts very quickly. I'll pull the stops out of the steering arm to use the full 8"s of stroke and then drill the crane arms to match up. It will also give me more "power" to turn the tires due to the longer arm having more leverage on the knuckle. Beefcake, you going to have yours ready for the hammers?
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If I have to finish it on the trailer while my buddy drives(can't vouch for the legality of 65MPH rig building) I'll have it ready. Just made the decision to go ahead and save for a 203/205 doubler. Might take a month or two, but that and tires are my last big purchases.
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Your going to need some pretty tall tires to get clearance under that dana 80. I don't think you'll need to worry about breaking it though.
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Old 04-23-2010, 01:14 PM   #230 (permalink)
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Your going to need some pretty tall tires to get clearance under that dana 80. I don't think you'll need to worry about breaking it though.
Thats the issue, i'm just gonna run gov surplus 37's, so do I shave it and work with the clearance that i have and know that I have the strength to run 40's? Or do I swap it for a rear 60/14 and gain clearance but need to put more money in shafts when I go bigger? Questions questions questions.

I'll try not to worry about clearance, I hear there are lots of rocks to stack at the hammers
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Finished tying the track bar mount into the diff. I didn't want to weld to the housing, so I can up with this. The 1" plate has a bolt in it that goes into the hole where the center pin would go if it was still leaves. The taller round plate is the bumpstop pad.
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:26 PM   #232 (permalink)
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A little more done this weekend. Had to change the frame side trackbar mount . When I would flex it, it would hit the tranmission pan. Built a longer mount so it wouldn't pull the front end over as much. Everything is a very tight fit. When flexed out and the drivers front tire is turned to the left, it contacts the coilover. I'll put some limit straps on it to keep the tire out of the spring. Only hits with the 37"s. The 38" swampers clear though. (they are narrower and have less backspacing on the wheels) Still need to do put some springs on the brake lines to keep them out of the tires.
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:29 PM   #233 (permalink)
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Old 04-27-2010, 07:32 PM   #235 (permalink)
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Did a little more on it. Changed up the tire carrier a little bit. It used to just slide into the reciever and not pivot down. It made it hard to load things in. Added a top mount and made it hinge. Also got the limiting straps installed. Now I just need the high steer arms and mounts for the steering cylinder to show up so I can redo the steering. I also want to tie the diff guard into the steering mount. Trying to get it all done before I hit the Rubicon on Memorial Weekend.
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Looking good Doug. Are you going up to the Rubicon in June also? I got a buddy that has been wanting to go and see what it's like and I figured if you guys were going maybe we would jump in with you.
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Yep, still going the second weekend in June as always. Your more than welcome to come along.
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Thanks I'll try to make it. Haven't been real busy at work these days so it all depends on the funds,but it has been a couple years since I was up there.
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:35 AM   #240 (permalink)
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I was talking to my cousin in truckee yesterday. Says there is a TON of snow up there. We were planning a june 5/6 trip, but it may not be possible according to him. they are still getting snow as of two days ago.



rkscout, have any pics or info on how you dropped the nose on that thing?
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Old 04-30-2010, 11:32 AM   #241 (permalink)
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Thanks on the heads up on the snow levels. We'll be camping at wench creek campgrounds memorial weekend, and just going in for day runs. That will give me an idea on the snow condition for when we try and run the full trail two weeks later. As far as how I dropped the nose down, I built new body mounts that raised the body 2"s. I cut the grill down just below the turn signals. (probably gained another inch) I relief cut the top of the fender where it bolted up on the top at the firewall. Then I just pushed the fender down. Since I had already cut the fender so much that there was no support to it, it was pretty easy to more it down and in. It did give the fender a slight bulge though. I like the look of the bulge though. Of course though, I cut out all the inner fenders and it is all bolted to tubing. Also a pic of the hood. Give's you an idea how I sectioned it. If you want any pics of certain areas, let me know and I can take pics of it.
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Looks like the same way I did my hood too....adding a skinny triangle in the front.
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Old 04-30-2010, 12:35 PM   #243 (permalink)
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thanks for the info. Im not sure if I will pinch the front or not. but I would like to drop the front some, and already cut out all the inner fenders and will copy you regarding hanging stuff from tube. Also figured it would give me a good place for the CO's.

So if I understand correctly, you just put a relief cut in the top, where the bolts are? the buldge is created because you did not take some of the side of the fender out???

how far did you drop the nose, and would you do more or less if you did it again?
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thanks for the info. Im not sure if I will pinch the front or not. but I would like to drop the front some, and already cut out all the inner fenders and will copy you regarding hanging stuff from tube. Also figured it would give me a good place for the CO's.

So if I understand correctly, you just put a relief cut in the top, where the bolts are? the buldge is created because you did not take some of the side of the fender out??? If you look at the attached pic, where the top of the fender meets the firewall, you can see the notch. That was done because the fender hit there when I pulled it in. Yes, the bulge was created because I didn't cut the side of the fender.
how far did you drop the nose, and would you do more or less if you did it again?
I believe that the nose is dropped 3"s. It gave me much better visiblity, that and the narrowing. I haven't felt the need to drop it lower. I also can't take it down much lower, because then the hood would hit the top of the radiator then.

If you don't plan on narrowing the front, I think that you will need to relief cut the fender to be able to push it down.
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:15 PM   #245 (permalink)
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More done yesterday. Pull the ram apart and removed the stops that were inside. Now I have 8"s of stoke instead of 6"s. Installed the crane high steer arms and drilled it out for the heims. From the center of the kingpin to the center of the hole for the heim, is 7 1/2"s. That puts me on the steering stops when I run out of stroke on the ram. Also had to more the ram forward 2 1/4"s so it lines up with the holes in the new steering arms. I now have 3 1/4 turns lock to lock, compared to 2 1/4 turns before. Haven't had a chance to drive it yet to see if it handles better.
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Edit.. Pulled the ram apart and removed the stops that were inside. Now I have 8"s of stoke instead of 6"s. From the center of the kingpin to the center of the hole for the heim, is 7 1/2"s. That puts me on the steering stops when I run out of stroke on the ram.
I made my ram travel stop at the knuckle stops. Or risk shearing off the bolts/studs holding the arms in place when making tight turns. You can adjust the stops out, but don't pin it to win it with the wheel fully clocked or the u-joints might get mad.
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Drove it around a little last night. The steering is soooo much better now. Not as touchy as it was before. Handles well too. I get some pretty good lean going into turns, but nothing that I can't control.
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Drove it around a little last night. The steering is soooo much better now. Not as touchy as it was before. Handles well too. I get some pretty good lean going into turns, but nothing that I can't control.
Testing time is over, drive the piss out of it and take video!

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Testing time is over, drive the piss out of it and take video!

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Thanks. This is how the ole' girl spends most of her time on the road though. I get better mileage towing her to the trails than if I I drive her. Plus I have a/c and satelite radio in the dodge. Dug up some old pics back from '03 too.
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