anther 80 build - Page 7 - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > Brand Specific Tech > International Harvester
Notices

Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-21-2011, 08:57 PM   #151 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Member # 159101
Location: Rescue, N.CA
Posts: 457
Plug,

Any updates? I love the build and been following it, just curious.
__________________
Livin' the Dream
1966Scout800 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2011, 10:04 PM   #152 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16680
Location: Rocklin
Posts: 3,530
no, Ive been working a lot of OT, and just got back from taking the boys to Disneyland. I should get some "me" time in the coming weeks.

the body is off, Im working on the rear 4 link, and waiting to take the body to my cousins powdercoating shop to sand blast the thing.

Thanks for the interest
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
plug ugly is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Old 05-23-2011, 08:31 PM   #153 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Member # 159101
Location: Rescue, N.CA
Posts: 457
Sorry plug but what hydroboost did you go with? Was it from an astro van if I recall? I'm getting ready to put a boost in my rig just trying to sort out some details. Thanks
__________________
Livin' the Dream

Last edited by 1966Scout800; 05-23-2011 at 08:32 PM.
1966Scout800 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2011, 09:13 PM   #154 (permalink)
Registered User
 
R290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Member # 46467
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 4,351
I know you might have said, but the bronco gas tank will not fit?

The 800/80 frame is like an 1" wider then the Scout II gas tank
__________________
73 IH Scout

Last edited by R290; 05-23-2011 at 09:14 PM.
R290 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-24-2011, 04:07 PM   #155 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16680
Location: Rocklin
Posts: 3,530
not in stock form. The bronco tank is 31.5 by 21 by 15.5. The intent was to use a bronco tank thats 25 gallons, and only 13" tall as opposed tot he 33 gallon tank I have. When I stretched the rear frame, I did so with 2x4 to make it 2" wider, and allow the bronco tank to fit. I was going to run leaves, and planned on using the bronco tank. Changing to the rear 4 link, Im not sure I will have the clearance AND be able to run a rear winch as planned. So the verdict is still out at this point. I have a scout II tank, but would like more gallonage 9at least 25) so I may look at building my own, just not sure I have the fab skills to make a good one.

My hydroboost is a a chevy unit, but from VANCO. Not sure how it differs from an astro van unit. I 'think' some of the astros are 2 bolts instead of 4, but cant say for sure.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by plug ugly; 05-24-2011 at 04:09 PM.
plug ugly is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-24-2011, 09:13 PM   #156 (permalink)
Registered User
 
R290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Member # 46467
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 4,351
My bro gave me a nice big piece of 1/8 aluminum diamond plate that I could use to make a tank. You really need to make a cardboard / wood mock up tank, so you know just how to cut the metal. Plus I'm running F.I, so for me buying a weld in sump would make that easier. If you decide to build a tank and need it welded let me know, I'm pretty good with the TIG welder.
I like the welding part.

The 33 gal bronco tank is super cheap, just over a C note
__________________
73 IH Scout

Last edited by R290; 05-24-2011 at 09:15 PM.
R290 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-24-2011, 09:37 PM   #157 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Member # 159101
Location: Rescue, N.CA
Posts: 457
Thanks plug, I don't think vanco is around anymore after what happened with brandon???? I'll just be hitting the pnp soon. Anyways, I take it you wanna mount the tank between the frame rails. I'm just curious because I was going to mount a twenty gallon in the bed and build a shelf above it similar to mocha mikes. Just wanna hear your reasoning. Thanks.
__________________
Livin' the Dream
1966Scout800 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-24-2011, 09:55 PM   #158 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Member # 51801
Location: central Wa
Posts: 236
Quote:
Originally Posted by plug ugly View Post
not in stock form. The bronco tank is 31.5 by 21 by 15.5. The intent was to use a bronco tank thats 25 gallons, and only 13" tall as opposed tot he 33 gallon tank I have. When I stretched the rear frame, I did so with 2x4 to make it 2" wider, and allow the bronco tank to fit. I was going to run leaves, and planned on using the bronco tank. Changing to the rear 4 link, Im not sure I will have the clearance AND be able to run a rear winch as planned. So the verdict is still out at this point. I have a scout II tank, but would like more gallonage 9at least 25) so I may look at building my own, just not sure I have the fab skills to make a good one.

My hydroboost is a a chevy unit, but from VANCO. Not sure how it differs from an astro van unit. I 'think' some of the astros are 2 bolts instead of 4, but cant say for sure.
My vote is build your own.I built mine and it works well.Kind of wish it was a little smaller (29 gal )and I had some clearance problems at the start but Im happy with it.I think there are a couple of pics in my build.You can do it!!!
__________________
69 IH 800,TBI392,TF727,D20,2to1 box,tons with 4.88s,power steering/Brakes,36" Super Swampers.
rgwestra is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-24-2011, 10:22 PM   #159 (permalink)
"All Weeee Drive!"
 
MochaMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Member # 6450
Location: Concord, CA
Posts: 5,794
Check out Scout Dude's (Joel) build thread for tank ideas...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showp...8&postcount=35
__________________
62 IH Scout, Built to wheel.
MochaMike is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-25-2011, 09:27 AM   #160 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16680
Location: Rocklin
Posts: 3,530
Vanco is still in business, I have spoken with the recently.

Craig, thanks for the offer, I might take you up on that.

Id like to build my own for sure so I can run an intake "ford" pump to run my FI also. Just have to look at teh cost comparison basis, and fitment when everything is in as far as suspensions etc. I figured a nice "dog leg" tank would work, but with the 4 link and lower lift height, it may get tight. I dont want to sacrifice much, if any, floor space.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
plug ugly is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-25-2011, 10:33 AM   #161 (permalink)
Registered User
 
R290's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Member # 46467
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 4,351
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1966Scout800 View Post
Thanks plug, I don't think vanco is around anymore after what happened with brandon????
Alive and well, that were I got mine http://www.vancopbs.com/
He answered the ph eveytime I called.
__________________
73 IH Scout
R290 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-25-2011, 03:58 PM   #162 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Member # 159101
Location: Rescue, N.CA
Posts: 457
Alright thanks just didn't know what was up after reading Brandon's thread over the hydroboost. Plug, I also vote build your own by the looks of it you have the fab skills . Much more options you can work with.
__________________
Livin' the Dream
1966Scout800 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-27-2011, 08:06 PM   #163 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16680
Location: Rocklin
Posts: 3,530
so i had about 4 hours this afternoon, and have to work all weekend. here is a few pics of shtuff I have been tinkering with here and there.

A full day or more was spent chipping this tarry crap off. It came off easy enuf with a harbor freight air chisel.



th white crap, seam sealer I imagine, is a PITA to get off. I used an air hammer with as flat a blade as i had. It still sucked.


here is the pass side, which I plan to cut and replace for extra leg room for the wife/kids.
Luckily the factory heat shield kept too much "glue" off the bottom, even though I am leaving it on this side till I cut it out.




Ended up with 4 piles, all bigger than this


The tub is ready for sand blasting, sheet metal work.new firewall and floors, and bed liner/insulation


Also been working a little more on the rear links

I needed to raise the upper links as mentioned before. I plasma'd the bulk off, and the neighbor owns a machine shop with a nice 6" belt sander. That sander helped A LOT. I plan to cut on the yellow line to clear the body. The piece on top is the middle factory body mount, which I will weld back onto the body, and use this piece as a upper link mount and body mount. Its cut from 3x5x3/16



still just mocking and punching numbers through the calculator


__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by plug ugly; 05-27-2011 at 08:07 PM.
plug ugly is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-28-2011, 10:18 PM   #164 (permalink)
Addicted to Gear Oil
 
guidolyons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Member # 56050
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 5,832
Glad to see some more progress

Who's link brackets are you using? That's a lot of adjustability.
__________________
1965 Scout 80 7.3PSD/ZF/203/205 D60F/14BFF
Member: 4 Jackstand Wheeler's Association
Quote:
Originally Posted by General Dwight D. Eisenhower
History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

For the best deal on 8 lug disc brakes click here-->
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by guidolyons; 05-28-2011 at 10:23 PM.
guidolyons is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-29-2011, 07:32 AM   #165 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16680
Location: Rocklin
Posts: 3,530
ruff stuff
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
plug ugly is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-30-2011, 12:30 AM   #166 (permalink)
Addicted to Gear Oil
 
guidolyons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Member # 56050
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 5,832
Quote:
Originally Posted by plug ugly View Post
ruff stuff
I thought so, Dan makes good stuff
__________________
1965 Scout 80 7.3PSD/ZF/203/205 D60F/14BFF
Member: 4 Jackstand Wheeler's Association
Quote:
Originally Posted by General Dwight D. Eisenhower
History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

For the best deal on 8 lug disc brakes click here-->
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
guidolyons is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-30-2011, 09:43 AM   #167 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16680
Location: Rocklin
Posts: 3,530
yes he does.


Does anyone know a good set of rear 4 link numbers to shoot for? Ive read the threads, but never really seen a good set of numbers to shoot for.

Right now, Im at
87 AS (can go higher, but not lower)
29.6 roll center
.5 degree roll steer
5 degrees piinion change through stuff to droop.

Im thinking Im good, but do I want to be able to adjust MORE AS in?
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
plug ugly is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-01-2011, 08:12 PM   #168 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16680
Location: Rocklin
Posts: 3,530
change the truss a bit. Gives me some more welding area along the inside part. Nothing exciting, but as you guys know, this shit takes a lot of trail and cutting.

__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
plug ugly is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-01-2011, 08:16 PM   #169 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16680
Location: Rocklin
Posts: 3,530
OH, and heres the link numbers im looking at.

__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
plug ugly is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2011, 01:55 PM   #170 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16680
Location: Rocklin
Posts: 3,530
minor progress in the rear link set up. Most things are tacked in place, and I think final. Still waiting for someone to tell me that my numbers look good.











I can not figure out how to make these damn screen shots bigger.





__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by plug ugly; 07-01-2011 at 02:06 PM.
plug ugly is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2011, 02:22 PM   #171 (permalink)
Rock God
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Member # 161937
Location: Discovery Bay, CA
Posts: 1,356
Looks great Damon. Hurry up and get this thing done. One quick question though. How come you didnt move the lower front links in a little on the crossmember to give more traingulation? It looks like you already have a fair amount, but if you have room to have more would it be benificial?

Last edited by jrad12381; 07-01-2011 at 02:25 PM.
jrad12381 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2011, 05:24 PM   #172 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16680
Location: Rocklin
Posts: 3,530
it increase the understeer quite a bit, and I was trying to keep it as close to 1 degree as possible.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
plug ugly is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-02-2011, 01:48 PM   #173 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Buck Dodson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Member # 35185
Location: Suthern Orygun
Posts: 917
IMHO, this is your most important bracket



You have three holes for an adjustment of AS and I would expect a noticable difference in handleing between each of the three holes. You're triangulation looks similar, likely a little more than mine and I'm very happy.

When you drive it around, let it cycle into place and change the frame end of the upper links until it gives you the best (compromise) charactistics.

Woohoo, start welding!
__________________
Buck Dodson
Chief Scout of Suthern Orygun

A Scout II trapped in an 800 body...

So you think you want to build a 3-link Build


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Buck Dodson is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-02-2011, 04:22 PM   #174 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16680
Location: Rocklin
Posts: 3,530
Quote:
Originally Posted by plug ugly View Post
actually I have 5. I can change the AS quite a bit.

Buck, do you know what kind of rear steer you are working with?
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
plug ugly is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-02-2011, 08:36 PM   #175 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Buck Dodson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Member # 35185
Location: Suthern Orygun
Posts: 917
Quote:
Originally Posted by plug ugly View Post
actually I have 5. I can change the AS quite a bit.

Buck, do you know what kind of rear steer you are working with?
No, I don't remember, but I know that is one of the elements of changing the frame end upper mounts,
__________________
Buck Dodson
Chief Scout of Suthern Orygun

A Scout II trapped in an 800 body...

So you think you want to build a 3-link Build


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by Buck Dodson; 07-03-2011 at 05:56 AM.
Buck Dodson is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

** A VERIFICATION EMAIL IS SENT TO THIS ADDRESS TO COMPLETE REGISTRATION!! **

Email Address:
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.