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plug ugly · 07-13-2011, 02:19 PM

interesting. That came straight from Jess at HAD

jrad12381 · 07-13-2011, 03:09 PM

I have no doubt that it did. He built the drivelines on my truck and thus far I havent had any issues with the limited street time my Scout gets. Its not ideal for the street but so neither is big tires, soft springs, body roll, ect. ect. I know you know way more than I ever will but if your building a wheeler you might as well get all the travel you can get.

plug ugly · 07-25-2011, 07:05 PM

a few more link pics.

I ended up lowering the tcase and raising the motor, soIm at 5 degrees lean back now. I get 5" of droop at the pinion. Im just gonna live with it.

Im also gonna ditch the radius arms and 3 link the front.

still need to cut the factory rear crossmember out, as the links hit. Was gonna wait till the coils were on to see how much up travel I will actually get though

plug ugly · 08-12-2011, 10:44 PM

well, christmas came early. The wife took the boys to oregon for 10 days, and I actually got two 3 day spats of working in the garage without interuption......so 72 plus man hours later i have accomplished the following.

stripped the 60 of all the radius arm wedges,built a truss, cut a web (not pictured), tacked all brackets aside from the track bar and hydro assist, built a new upper link mount, etc, etc.

Upper link mount, I still need to weld the end and gring smooth, and then make an inner bracket to put it into 'double' shear.

upper link mount and gusset to the top of the housing

1.75 188 wall truss, slightly angled down for clearance

finger worth of clearance at ride height

new middle body mount

rear mounts.

plug ugly · 08-12-2011, 10:46 PM

lowered the body down 1". The body is twisted up pretty bad, and the doors wont align, so that will require some work. The sill plates are at 33.5" now with a 24.5" belly height. Should be 6" up travel front. Oh, I also pulled the front stretch back 2" to a total of 4 front and 8 rear.

plug ugly · 08-12-2011, 10:55 PM

can someone tell me,

is the driver/pass floor level with the ground, or is the A pillar at a slight upward angle?

jrad12381 · 08-13-2011, 07:43 AM

Looks good Damon, you made a ton of progress.

'71 800B · 08-13-2011, 09:02 AM

Looking great!!

Question???? What are the short tubes on the front lowers for?

plug ugly · 08-13-2011, 01:12 PM

it was scrap tub I cut from an old cage. just mock up links

R290 · 08-13-2011, 02:49 PM

your going to need a big white star on the door when all done

plug ugly · 08-13-2011, 03:44 PM

whats the white star for?

war pony · 08-13-2011, 06:00 PM

Looking good man. Take advantage of the shop pass.

keep up the good work.

plug ugly · 08-16-2011, 06:31 PM

Looks like flexing the front 3 link gives me what I need. Still lots of stuff on both sides, the lowers are hitting the old leaf mounts. Pinion angle appears pretty good through travel also, so its time to start burning things on for final.

rkscout · 08-16-2011, 06:35 PM

Looking good. Have you decided what your doing for the steering yet?

plug ugly · 08-16-2011, 07:10 PM

not yet, its looking to be VERY tight for track bar to drag link, but 1/8th clearance is 1/8the clearance, sooo, this may lend itself to full hydro

Scout Dude · 08-16-2011, 10:13 PM

Looks a whole lot better than the radius arms. I think a box like a SII will work with your current set up. I personally don't like the long sector shafts on a SII box but if you are are using assist, it might be okay. Did you decide to burn the front mounts on yourself after all?

plug ugly · 08-17-2011, 07:20 AM

no, I dont trust my welding for the cast and dont have a torch to heat it up anyway.

I was gonna look at late 70's ford bronco box too. Forward swing, outside frame mount

plug ugly · 10-24-2011, 04:15 PM

soooooo, I am going to have a small rub area I need to cut out of the floor. Basically 2" up from the corner, and 4.5 down from the corner as seen here.

My thought was to cut a small (6x20) rectangular hole across the floor area there, bend tabs all the way around and fill it with clear lexan. Basicall it would be below the pedals, right at the front axle from the drivers seat. I have to make the cut, and I have to fill the hole, its just a question of WHAT i fill it with.

anyone have experiene with lexan? how would it do with the heat from the headers which will be near by?

jrad12381 · 10-24-2011, 04:37 PM

If I recall Lexan has a mounting point of 220 degrees. Its very strong and nearly shatter resistant depending on the thickness. Call or text me if you have any questions. My buddy developed lexan diff, and valve covers like 10 years ago.

plug ugly · 10-24-2011, 06:57 PM

lexan valve covers?

Skorch · 10-24-2011, 07:04 PM

links built already? I'd be stretching that front another 3"

Mark

plug ugly · 10-24-2011, 07:18 PM

i had it 2" further forward, but that put me at near 115". i just didnt want it 'that' long.

jrad12381 · 10-24-2011, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plug ugly

lexan valve covers?

Yep he sold the patent to the company that owned hooker headers I believe. I had the first diff cover they ever made on my ford. I had it on there for 5 years until I sold it with no issues.

war pony · 10-25-2011, 05:43 AM

Move that axle and be proud of 115"

just say n

R290 · 10-25-2011, 11:20 AM

I could TIG weld the links longer. Cut / sleeve / weld . I took that TIG pipe welding class at ARC. They had us welding 1/4 and 3/8 walled 4" pipe in all positions. But they had a nice beveling machine too

07-13-2011, 02:19 PM	#201 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	interesting. That came straight from Jess at HAD __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

07-25-2011, 07:05 PM	#203 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	a few more link pics. I ended up lowering the tcase and raising the motor, soIm at 5 degrees lean back now. I get 5" of droop at the pinion. Im just gonna live with it. Im also gonna ditch the radius arms and 3 link the front. still need to cut the factory rear crossmember out, as the links hit. Was gonna wait till the coils were on to see how much up travel I will actually get though __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

08-12-2011, 10:44 PM	#204 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	well, christmas came early. The wife took the boys to oregon for 10 days, and I actually got two 3 day spats of working in the garage without interuption......so 72 plus man hours later i have accomplished the following. stripped the 60 of all the radius arm wedges,built a truss, cut a web (not pictured), tacked all brackets aside from the track bar and hydro assist, built a new upper link mount, etc, etc. Upper link mount, I still need to weld the end and gring smooth, and then make an inner bracket to put it into 'double' shear. upper link mount and gusset to the top of the housing 1.75 188 wall truss, slightly angled down for clearance finger worth of clearance at ride height new middle body mount rear mounts. __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

08-12-2011, 10:46 PM	#205 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	lowered the body down 1". The body is twisted up pretty bad, and the doors wont align, so that will require some work. The sill plates are at 33.5" now with a 24.5" belly height. Should be 6" up travel front. Oh, I also pulled the front stretch back 2" to a total of 4 front and 8 rear. __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

08-12-2011, 10:55 PM	#206 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	can someone tell me, is the driver/pass floor level with the ground, or is the A pillar at a slight upward angle? __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

07-13-2011, 03:09 PM	#202 (permalink)
jrad12381 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Member # 161937 Location: Discovery Bay, CA Posts: 617	I have no doubt that it did. He built the drivelines on my truck and thus far I havent had any issues with the limited street time my Scout gets. Its not ideal for the street but so neither is big tires, soft springs, body roll, ect. ect. I know you know way more than I ever will but if your building a wheeler you might as well get all the travel you can get.

08-13-2011, 07:43 AM	#207 (permalink)
jrad12381 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Member # 161937 Location: Discovery Bay, CA Posts: 617	Looks good Damon, you made a ton of progress.

08-13-2011, 09:02 AM	#208 (permalink)
'71 800B Registurd Abuser Join Date: Aug 2004 Member # 34995 Location: Trapped in a body of chaos and confusion Posts: 1,171	Looking great!! Question???? What are the short tubes on the front lowers for?

08-13-2011, 01:12 PM	#209 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	it was scrap tub I cut from an old cage. just mock up links __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

08-13-2011, 02:49 PM	#210 (permalink)
R290 AF6 OD Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46467 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,640	your going to need a big white star on the door when all done __________________ 73 IH Scout

08-13-2011, 03:44 PM	#211 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	whats the white star for? __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

08-13-2011, 06:00 PM	#212 (permalink)
war pony Granite Guru Join Date: Jan 2008 Member # 105834 Location: Vacaville, California Posts: 994	Looking good man. Take advantage of the shop pass. keep up the good work. __________________ war pony build /forum/international-harvester/651553-war-pony-build.html

08-16-2011, 06:31 PM	#213 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	Looks like flexing the front 3 link gives me what I need. Still lots of stuff on both sides, the lowers are hitting the old leaf mounts. Pinion angle appears pretty good through travel also, so its time to start burning things on for final. __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

08-16-2011, 06:35 PM	#214 (permalink)
rkscout Granite Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 100982 Location: Windsor, CA Posts: 530	Looking good. Have you decided what your doing for the steering yet? __________________ Scout build thread- http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...hlight=rkscout

08-16-2011, 07:10 PM	#215 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	not yet, its looking to be VERY tight for track bar to drag link, but 1/8th clearance is 1/8the clearance, sooo, this may lend itself to full hydro __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club Last edited by plug ugly; 08-16-2011 at 07:11 PM.

08-16-2011, 10:13 PM	#216 (permalink)
Scout Dude Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4001 Location: Citrus Heights, CA Posts: 3,984	Looks a whole lot better than the radius arms. I think a box like a SII will work with your current set up. I personally don't like the long sector shafts on a SII box but if you are are using assist, it might be okay. Did you decide to burn the front mounts on yourself after all? __________________ Dysfunctional Rockcrawlers

08-17-2011, 07:20 AM	#217 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	no, I dont trust my welding for the cast and dont have a torch to heat it up anyway. I was gonna look at late 70's ford bronco box too. Forward swing, outside frame mount __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

10-24-2011, 04:15 PM	#218 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	soooooo, I am going to have a small rub area I need to cut out of the floor. Basically 2" up from the corner, and 4.5 down from the corner as seen here. My thought was to cut a small (6x20) rectangular hole across the floor area there, bend tabs all the way around and fill it with clear lexan. Basicall it would be below the pedals, right at the front axle from the drivers seat. I have to make the cut, and I have to fill the hole, its just a question of WHAT i fill it with. anyone have experiene with lexan? how would it do with the heat from the headers which will be near by? __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club Last edited by plug ugly; 10-24-2011 at 04:16 PM.

10-24-2011, 04:37 PM	#219 (permalink)
jrad12381 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Member # 161937 Location: Discovery Bay, CA Posts: 617	If I recall Lexan has a mounting point of 220 degrees. Its very strong and nearly shatter resistant depending on the thickness. Call or text me if you have any questions. My buddy developed lexan diff, and valve covers like 10 years ago. __________________ 5.3 TJ linked on ROCKS, ORI's, and 47's Last edited by jrad12381; 10-24-2011 at 04:38 PM.

10-24-2011, 06:57 PM	#220 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	lexan valve covers? __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

10-24-2011, 07:04 PM	#221 (permalink)
Skorch Cantankerous Ahole Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63684 Location: Northern Ca. Posts: 447	links built already? I'd be stretching that front another 3" Mark

10-24-2011, 07:18 PM	#222 (permalink)
plug ugly Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 2,818	i had it 2" further forward, but that put me at near 115". i just didnt want it 'that' long. __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco-R.I.P. 1961 Scout 80 stretched and linked wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club Last edited by plug ugly; 10-24-2011 at 07:18 PM.

10-25-2011, 05:43 AM	#224 (permalink)
war pony Granite Guru Join Date: Jan 2008 Member # 105834 Location: Vacaville, California Posts: 994	Move that axle and be proud of 115" just say n __________________ war pony build http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=651553

10-25-2011, 11:20 AM	#225 (permalink)
R290 AF6 OD Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46467 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,640	I could TIG weld the links longer. Cut / sleeve / weld . I took that TIG pipe welding class at ARC. They had us welding 1/4 and 3/8 walled 4" pipe in all positions. But they had a nice beveling machine too __________________ 73 IH Scout

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