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Old 11-09-2008, 09:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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another 80 build

Well, it seems weird doing a build thread for something other than the bronco, but its time. After flopping plugly last season, the tops wont go on, and thus the boys will be subject to rain and heat. two things I am not crazy about. (you know, its a funny thing being a father. i never cared about shit; see bad shit all day long at work, take stupid chances and otherwise disregard my health and safety. But now that I am married with two boys, that is all I worry about. ) i also had some isssues with smog this year. granted, they were my own fault, but IMO, the green weenies are going to be gunning for the 80's and 90's cars here pretty soon. SOOOOOOO, I decided to spend a lot of money (250 bucks) and bought a 1961 Scout 80. Stock it has a twin stick D18, 152 4cyl motor, D27 axles with 4.27 gears and lockers, a 100" wheel base, and a shit load of rusty bolts/parts. It also only weighs 3900 pounds from factory, so I am shooting for 5K total. here it is in all its glory the day i bought it
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So the plan is to strip the Bronco, and put the scout on front and rear radius arms, 1 tons, 42 now with 44's next, the 351, klune and 205, etc, etc. All the shit the bronco has. I also plan to stretch the wheel base from 100 to 110 at least, likely 115ish, exo/ino cage it, and cut the fawk out of it. Hopefully it will be street legal as I like driving around town too much, and still would rather drive to the trail than tow.
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sooo, on to the build up.


It came with saddle style fuel tanks on either side as you guys know. they were prone to causing rust apparently.



So i pulled the tanks, and am going to use a scout II tank for 19 gallons, and hopefully it will fit ahead of the rear axle. This leaves the old gas tank area available for storage with a little welding and some sheetmetal. (imagination required here)



One of the reasons I like this vintage scout is (aside from being pre-smog) the super shitty fabber friendly interior







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Old 11-09-2008, 09:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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this is the reason for wanting to stretch it. I had a early bronco in high-school, and realized you really couldn't fit all that much in the back with a back seat there. Add in TWO car seats for the next few years, and space becomes even more limited. The cooler BARELY fits in there, and as the boys grow, their heads will hit. I am safety geek, so that wont work.




So i decided that 6" of stretch would be a good compromise between aesthetics and function. Will give plenty of room for the boys, and not be too long for a ten inch rear wheel stretch. I am also going to comp cut the rear. You can see how simple stretching it should be. Its all right angles ickle: This pic is a 41" radial spare i have. the hubs are about 2 inches above where they would be IF mounted to wheels, and this is with NO lift from stock. So I am thinking like 6" lift max and a comp cut will be PLENTY





In the front, i plan to remove all the core support, etc and replace it with tube. imagine a big U coming from the firewall along where the fenders attach, and tying into the frame. The front axle will get pushed 4 to 6" depending on firewall clearance. Im hoping to push the 351 forward and down, so i can make the firewall flat, and gain some more leg room. time will tell for his







I plan to wheel the 94 bronco for one more season. I really want to push it through squeeze rock at fordyce and run the hammers in it. Then, it gets cut up. So its just cleaning and body stuff for now. maybe a little prewire down the road.

anyway, this will be a slow build. Im HOPING for summer of 2010, but apparently scout builds take like 6 or more years
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 11-10-2008, 04:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i like those rear fenders,copycat.LOL
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yeah, I figured I wasnt original. Hadn't seen it done till you posted it, but it looks good. Now I know I want to do it this way.

whats your wheel base at? are you stretching the front?
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i've stretched the rear about 6 and the front 9 so i can nose up to something and don't have to worrt about draggin the ass end on the depart,right now center of front hub to center of rear hub is 115''
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heres a shot of the bump out front and a fleet shot
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how did you get the rear quarter out, drill out every spot weld? I am drilling (or whatever the flush bits are) out every one right now and it is taking ages..
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Old 11-10-2008, 07:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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right now i'm waiting on all the stuff for the front axle, hysteer arms tie rod and drag link,tre's all from Aaron at harsh terrain.then R/P,(5:13's) inner seals and flanges from i don't know yet but gonna find and order this week
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quarter out? just masked them out with tape and cut them out,then i had some 20 gauge sheet metal 2" wide folded inhalf and slid it up on the cut edge,spot welded it about every 3" just so the entire edge is smooth
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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yeah brandon, drilling them out. I got a spot weld drill bit from MAC autobody on Auburn (6001 IIRC, cross of greenback). Cuts through the spots pretty well.
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Definately a nice start, keeping an eye on this build.
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don't toss that rear bumper, I'll take it for my trailer

Drilled out about 100 spot welds on mine today, there must be 10,000. Bleh..
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It also only weighs 3900 pounds from factory, so I am shooting for 5K total..... put the scout on front and rear radius arms, 1 tons, 42 now with 44's next, the 351, klune and 205, etc, etc. All the shit the bronco has. I also plan to stretch the wheel base from 100 to 110 at least, likely 115ish, exo/ino cage it, and cut the fawk out of it. Hopefully it will be street legal as I like driving around town too much
Let me know how far off you get from your 5k 'hopes' when its done!

My junk...63 scout 80, 152/T18/spicer18, D44's F/R, exo/ino cage with 1.5" HREW, 19 gal cell, 5 37" mtrs, 52" chevys, stretched 6", lots cut out, no doors, half cab, windshield glass only. equally weighted in trail form 2125F/2125R= 4250lbs


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Cool build! You will have a hard time keeping it under 5,500lbs
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yeah Dan. Im hoping for 5, but likely 5500. one tons and 42's arent light.
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Old 11-15-2008, 08:52 AM   #22 (permalink)
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does anyone have any good ideas on how to reinforce the fenders after cutting out the bulkhead. I want to move the bulkhead behind the back seat, and then re-weld it in place. I also would really like to not have anything too large securing the original area back in, so the front seats could tilt(im 6'3") and for just a little more leg room in the back.

was thinking just some gussets instead of radiused tube like the later models have. Anyone have a better idea?
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well mine is boxed and not tubed, seems like you could just cut the bulkhead so that it leaves some behind on the sides above the step part and just cap it with 1x2 tubing or something..
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:05 PM   #24 (permalink)
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not much of an update, but some soft tech.

so I have been agonizing over how much to stretch it. Currently its at 8", which allows a cooler and two tupperware bins to stack behind the seat with head room. It would be nice to have only 6" body with an 8" WB stretch, but then I cant have all three behind the seat, just two turned perpendicular to the rig. Also have been contemplating a dove tail and front pinch

Anyway, in trying to get to get some numbers in my head, it looks like 8" will still be WAY smaller than the bronco

...............Bronco.............SCout......... scout II
weight.........4587.............2800............
length.......183.6"............154.............166
width,,,,......79.1..............68.6............7 0
height........74.4...............67

so at 30" shorter and 11" narrower, I dont think I am gonna worry about 8" and a dovetail. Prolly will still pinch the front 3" each side though.
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not much of an update, but some soft tech.

so I have been agonizing over how much to stretch it. Currently its at 8", which allows a cooler and two tupperware bins to stack behind the seat with head room. It would be nice to have only 6" body with an 8" WB stretch, but then I cant have all three behind the seat, just two turned perpendicular to the rig. Also have been contemplating a dove tail and front pinch

Anyway, in trying to get to get some numbers in my head, it looks like 8" will still be WAY smaller than the bronco

Bronco SCout scout II
weight 4587 2800............
length.......183.6"............154.............166
width,,,,......79.1..............68.6............7 0
height........74.4...............67

so at 30" shorter and 11" narrower, I dont think I am gonna worry about 8" and a dovetail. Prolly will still pinch the front 3" each side though.
I say 3" may not be worth it. Go for more. I went 6.5" on each side, and it worked out ....just my 2 cents but have fun with it.
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