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Old 08-22-2001, 01:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Since I am sure most of you frequent both places I am just curious as to why you think the attitudes are so different between these two BB's. I go both places for tech stuff but if I am looking for new ideas or just to relax it is seldom the BB, IMO the BB is like talking to my great uncle tons of good info, but he usually repeats himself and it can at times be painful. Both have their advantages, just wondered what you thought. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
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The BB is full of IH People. The reason you hear so much repetition is because users cycle in and out. Many stay. I enjoy both sites. Pirate4x4 is my dark, fun, agressive side. The BB is for my polite, community support, IH pride side.
The BB has been goin down hill lately though. Slow server, a lotta bitchin about pety shit, very little creativity. Seems to be mostly a stock only croud.
At the same time, I get very little tech info out of this site. A couple of you guys in this IH section of POR, are way more experienced than the bolt-on crouds in the other sections. --Josh
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I burned out the dumb ass newbies on the BB. There is way to many "new" scout owners with poor wrenching skill and poor computer skills not doing there homework. <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0">

I have been only been on the net three years and when I found the BB I read and searched for over a month before I asked my first question. I think that the BB really went down hill when Bill stopped the Pic uploads. I'm still missing a few issues of his tech rag and the last few were just one long commercial for Caveman's 700r4 adapter! I guess his promise of subscription fulfillment is bogus.

I lurked on POR for a few months and things were much different than they are now. POR has be going softer and softer for the last year. But thing are much better than the BB!
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<STRONG>Since I am sure most of you frequent both places I am just curious as to why you think the attitudes are so different between these two BB's. I go both places for tech stuff but if I am looking for new ideas or just to relax it is seldom the BB, IMO the BB is like talking to my great uncle tons of good info, but he usually repeats himself and it can at times be painful. Both have their advantages, just wondered what you thought. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Well, given the rate of new / hard technical questions on POR, no wonder there doesn't seem to be many on the BB!

POR *seems* to be more wheelin' oriented than "IH" oriented (even the POR-IH section).

"How can I get better gas mileage out of my Scout?" is not something I've seen posted here. :-)

Similarly, no one's asked about hdyro-steer mods to their steering box on BB.

I have seen 1/4-elip and link-susp questions on the Bulletin, but not a whole lot of responses, and usually from someone that lacks the $$$$/skills to pull it off.

There ARE wheelers on the Bulletin, and some folks that know their stuff - but they don't seem to need advice, or no one asks them the right questions to drag their info outta 'em.

And as OldScout said - you can only answer the same question so many times before your bored to tears with it.

The POR-attitude seems to cut down on those types. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

..If I had a $1 for every post I've read about wanting to put Chevy running gear under their Scout or something.. that I've already answered in the archives 30 times.. I could finally afford my winch. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
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<STRONG>I'm still missing a few issues of his tech rag and the last few were just one long commercial for Caveman's 700r4 adapter! I guess his promise of subscription fulfillment is bogus.
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Y'mean you didn't get the issue on Mr.Scout's crawler box? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I think I'm missing the most recent one.. must've gotten lost around the house while I was off playin' at Rendezvous..
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Exactly. Pirate4x4.com is purely about wheeling. Primarily rockcrawling, but there are people with every type of wheeling experience around here. Also, if you guys don't frequent General 4x4, and occasionally check in on the other sections, you're missing alot of good 4x4 tech that can be applied to our IH vehicles.
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<STRONG>I think I'm missing the most recent one.. must've gotten lost around the house while I was off playin' at Rendezvous..</STRONG>
The most recent ONE. I havn't seen one since the "how to prep for paint" issue. --Josh
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<STRONG>The most recent ONE. I havn't seen one since the "how to prep for paint" issue. --Josh</STRONG>
Why would you waste your money on an IH mag for "How to prep for paint?" Any car restoration magazine will work. I stopped looking into the BB years ago. It took me a while to realize that when you swap out the drive train and running gear, most Scout sites are worthless for information. This site has helped educate me about all 4x4's so that I know which parts to apply to my Scout.
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I went there once and got the impression it was all resto old timer fogeys! All hardcore IH tunnel vision freaks. I read back in the archives and never wanted to post. No offence to the owner's of the board but its too boring... My dad is in a corvette restoration and preservation society (read subculture extrordinaire) and its all on how to make it look like it came off trhe factory assembly line. While I respect the hours and hours they spend rebuilding and lubing their quartz crystal clocks on the dash WHO GIVES A FAWK! I think musclecars are made to go fast and trucks, jeeps, and (solid axled) 4x4's are made to wheel. With apporpriate wheeling comes scratches, dents, and loss of paint and some dash functionality. Same with going fast and vibrations from musclecars! To sum it up restoration isnt my thing I am not that anal and I dont care to read all about it. While I appreciate it like painting a portrait I wouldnt want to do it...
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I'm feel the same as many of you. The BB is the place to go to find obscure info for IH's in the archives. The BB is where the newbies start out, and I agree that too many BB users never bother to search the Archives. But remember we all had to start somewhere. I am a mix of Rock Crawler, IH enthusiast, so I still frequent both sites. I have let to figure out if I fit in on POR, as I don't foresee a Pirate flag in my future. The blindfold thing freaks me out, mainly because my current spotter put me into a F**N rock on Sunday. <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

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<STRONG>Since I am sure most of you frequent both places I am just curious as to why you think the attitudes are so different between these two BB's. I go both places for tech stuff but if I am looking for new ideas or just to relax it is seldom the BB, IMO the BB is like talking to my great uncle tons of good info, but he usually repeats himself and it can at times be painful. Both have their advantages, just wondered what you thought. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

I spend time on both. I like to help with newbie questions on BB, but am getting good at posting links to questions already answered.

I like this board because it has attitude
<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> People have thicker skin here. Don't have to walk on eggshells when posting No one takes anything here too seriously.

And, like Tom said, this has more wheeling content, and less maintenance content.
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<STRONG>Why would you waste your money on an IH mag for "How to prep for paint?" </STRONG>
I thought I was getting scout specific info from Scout enthusiasts. And it is good info in many cases. Just too bad things are changing with the BB.

It still has it's place though. I'm with you on the Scouts were meant to be off road, but I love old American iron. And i respect many of those old fogies that restore the IH rigs.

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The BB is great if you think IH Buses and 2 ton trucks are COOOLL! Personally I dont. Dont get me wrong I love my scout,...but if I had found a Furd,Heep, or Suzuki in good shape for $750 I'm sure I would love it too; I just wanted something to build to wheel.

Oh, by the way they have a very insightful thread on "what CD player should I put in my Scout II" WTF?

I reply to questions over there but it's not entertaining like this board. And while were ripping Scout boards; ORC's sucks too.

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You guys are just mean! I love the BB and some of us are much less skilled than most and would love to put in 350 engines to our scouts. I think Bill T is a god and he should be more respected on this and every board! Scoutman SV is my hero and I get to ask all the dumb questions I want and no body flames me. I just think you guys suck!
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Dude!!!! fix your exhaust leak, the fumes are affecting your brain <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
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<IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> Scoutman is one of the biggest goof balls over there!!
Scoutillac BB lover has been here longer that you have
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<STRONG> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> Scoutman is one of the biggest goof balls over there!!
Scoutillac BB lover has been here long that you have
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<STRONG>You guys are just mean! I love the BB and some of us are much less skilled than most and would love to put in 350 engines to our scouts. I think Bill T is a god and he should be more respected on this and every board! Scoutman SV is my hero and I get to ask all the dumb questions I want and no body flames me. I just think you guys suck!</STRONG>

Why'd you change your name Caveman? Not the same caveman w/ the 700r4 adapter?? Its appropriate to use smilies <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> when you're being sarcastic. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

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<STRONG>The BB is great if you think IH Buses and 2 ton trucks are COOOLL! Personally I dont.
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Hey, I almost bought (and may still) a 2Ton Loadstar.. but it's 4x4 and a dually. :-) Crewcab, 8' flatbed, dually, 2ton 4x4 with 6.17 gears.

I wanted it to haul my Scouts around with - on it's back (stretch the flatbed). Too bad I bought my Travelette just before the Loadstar came up for sale again. *pout*

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Oh, by the way they have a very insightful thread on "what CD player should I put in my Scout II" WTF?
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Wasn't Darrel the one that started it? And he wheels his Scout a good bit. An honest question..

I put a 10-disc changer in my Scout II. On the occasion that it skips too much, I put a tape in the deck. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

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I reply to questions over there but it's not entertaining like this board. And while were ripping Scout boards; ORC's sucks too.
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*I* wasn't "ripping" on any boards - just noting the differences (I can point out why Scouts are better than Jeeps without having to put the Jeeps down..).

ORC's is pretty lame.. but.. hey, isn't that where you posted the first time? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0">

Not much going on on BC4x4 either..
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<STRONG>You guys are just mean! I love the BB and some of us are much less skilled than most and would love to put in 350 engines to our scouts. I think Bill T is a god and he should be more respected on this and every board! Scoutman SV is my hero and I get to ask all the dumb questions I want and no body flames me. I just think you guys suck!</STRONG>

ROFL. I agree. I agree. I never get flamed on the BB. I come here for that!!!
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BTW, I have a 352 IH V-8 not a 350!!! LOL

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ACkkk.. 350!! My ears, they're bleeding! (or is that eyes?).

Oh, wait.. I have a 350 in my Scout.. but it's an IH SV-350. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

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I think Bill T is a god and he should be more respected on this and every board! Scoutman SV is my hero and I get to ask all the dumb questions I want and no body flames me. I just think you guys suck!</STRONG>

Now I can't decide if this is for-real or a joke. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

But FWIW.. I think Bill T's a nice guy and welcome his company when I can, but he's no more "God-like" than the rest of us. Just a really nice guy that knows what he's about n' what he's not.

Heck, I KNOW he can't be a God - otherwise how could a GIRL beat him in the "Dirtybone" racing at RMIHR this year? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Then again, it was my girl in my rig, so it really wasn't fair contest.. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">
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I LOVE getting flamed and reading posts where other people get flamed thats why I come back, and yes Tom ORC is where I made my first post and if you had not of visited there I would still be waiting on a reply.

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