SCORE!

[Snoopy]

Well I scored some 38.5x14.50 SuperSwamper TSL/SXs yesterday (4 of them for $200). Got them siped, mounted and balanced at my favorite Discount Tire for free.

And now Snoopy has some real nice tread back on it. (The 36's were BALD!) I'm just happy the tires filled the fenders the way they did.


The problem is that i'm going to need to go full-width on Snoopy to get a decent steering radius.

THE PLAN! The 74 Travellal I got from Jen and Ken Farmer is donating is 180K mile old axles (5-lug 44s front and rear) so Snoopy can do some serious stuff.

Meanwhile, the T-all gets a nice *newer* Corp 14-bolt rear and a HD Dana44 front. This is much better since it has a healthy IHC392 under the hood (that 392 has scrapped the rear 44 it currently has). So finally I'll be able to use it as a tow vehicle. I'll be picking up all the patch panels and getting it painted in a couple months (during our winter slow-down). And the T-all will become my daily driver - I don't know what it is with that thing, but its so much fun to drive.

All in all its going to be a little work, but I think that when its done it'll all be worth it.

One happy Scout/T-all owner...

[johnnyx]

Wow - those things are large! Very nice!
Someday I'll upgrade my 33's...

[Scoutillac]

Why not just use a different backspacing on the rims? cheap and easy <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by Scoutillac:
<STRONG>Why not just use a different backspacing on the rims? cheap and easy <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

For that matter, on the "lift little, trim lots" concept..

1) coils to avoid hitting the springs or

2) SUBFRAME IT! to avoid hitting the frame.

[Scout Dude]

Well, now I know what my Scout would look like with 38's <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[Snoopy]

Offset wheels? Noway...I got the wheels I have for free (came with the 36s i bought for $150) and the 383.5s recommend 15x12's - Which are over $100 a peice. So my options are (1) get new rims [400 + special order offset triples-quadruples cost of tires] or (2) Get new axles [free + parts] and get the width that I want as well.

There is also a problem that I've found with offset wheels. Although they space the wheels out, the pivot point where the wheels turn is still at the same place so that when you turn you end up still hitting the frame/springs anyway.

Originally posted by tsm1mt:
<STRONG>1) coils to avoid hitting the springs or
</STRONG>

You've been readin my mind? A guy here in the springs parts out old EBs and has a few spare front coil buckets I will be using.

So the new front axles will do 2 things (one of which, i neglected to mention - oops). Not only will the wider axles help my steering radius, but it will also give me the room I need to mount my 3-link system. Then the back end will get our 4-link system and Snoopy will replace the Lil Mule as Project 2. But this time it'll be a little more involved. We will be doing the full axle rebuilds with Lockers front and rear, do a Quarter Elliptic rear and a Coil front. I've also found a powersteering bracket and I'll have full write-up on how to convert an old 800 to power steering with minimal parts.

Originally posted by tsm1mt:
<STRONG>2) SUBFRAME IT! to avoid hitting the frame.</STRONG>

Your reading my mind again. The rear bed is in about as good a shap as the rockers. So it already needs replaced. If you look at this picture:

you'll notice that the trailing edge of the saddle tanks are visable from the fender - in fact they can easily be hit. For this reason those tanks are going away and a full tube-frame structure will replace the back half of the Scout. A 30 gallon fuel cell will be placed directly above the rear axle (Dan says I should use beer kegs for the feul cells - or did he say he was going to, I think he is - I don't drink).

The cage will also put a single rear seat mounted forward and center of the fuel cell so that Snoopy will effectively become a 3-seater. The I'm toying with using expanded metal so that you can see through the rear floor to the ground...but I think that wouldn't be very *smurfy* if it starts raining and those tires start flinging mud.

So, things will start happening for Snoopy soon enough, but one step at a time.

D

[Mechanos]

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It's always only a matter of time. I think it is virtually impossible for any of us to "stick" to our original (read: mild) plans. Something inside us just snaps and the "build-it" monster comes out!!! Any of the follow text look familiar to anyone???

So, What's up with this? This one is kinda hard, but easy to explain. Being normal people here at D and C, we decided to - well - relax a bit. Sure we build some of the most extreme Scouts out there, but this time we need to relax and build our own Scouts. I'm sure someday things will be different, but for now, we don't have thousands upon thousands of dollars to spend on our Scouts. And although it would be nice, we don't need Dynatrac Dana 60s, SuperSwampers, Quarter Elliptics or ARBs - No, we just want to take that Scout we bought for $400-500 and make it the best we can with as little as we can - then wheel the heck out of it.

Must be the power of the dark side <IMG SRC="smilies/vader1.gif" border="0">

[Overkiller]

Originally posted by TORC:
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It's always only a matter of time. I think it is virtually impossible for any of us to "stick" to our original (read: mild) plans. Something inside us just snaps and the "build-it" monster comes out!!! Any of the follow text look familiar to anyone???

</STRONG>

I hear that brother. I bought my rock SCout for $350 to get running and destroy at last years xmas tree burn. I spent 2 weekends trying to get it going before I realized that the 345 that only needed a coil was really a 266 with 14psi of compression
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So now it sits while the tranny is being rebuilt waiting to be transformed from a derilict Scout sitting in a field in Hickville USA to an rock eating ARCA competitor... hopefully, I am of course accepting donations <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> .
Travis

[Cliffy [JD]]

Originally posted by TORC:
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It's always only a matter of time. I think it is virtually impossible for any of us to "stick" to our original (read: mild) plans. Something inside us just snaps and the "build-it" monster comes out!!! Any of the follow text look familiar to anyone???

Must be the power of the dark side <IMG SRC="smilies/vader1.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

I hear ya on that one. I was gonna just get my scout runnning and slap some 31's on it till I break and axle or something then I was gonna go 3/4ton axles, big-block, the works.

Now I'm sayin if I just save up for tires (with christmas coming around and my b-day just around the corner that should be easy) then I can do the SOA, slap the big tires on and start the rebuild of the caddy engine and I'll be set by the end of next year for RMIHR <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I got bit <IMG SRC="smilies/blush2.gif" border="0">

[JoshC]

Originally posted by Snoopy:
<STRONG>I've also found a powersteering bracket and I'll have full write-up on how to convert an old 800 to power steering with minimal parts.</STRONG>

Let's get the scoop... snoop! I'm about to mount a SII box through a re-enforced frame.

[Scout Dude]

Originally posted by Snoopy:
<STRONG>
For this reason those tanks are going away and a full tube-frame structure will replace the back half of the Scout. </STRONG>

I saw this Zuk and I figured that my Scout would look real good with a similar set-up. I am going to wait until the body is totally thrashed though.

<IMG width=640 height=480 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/Zuk.jpg">
<IMG width=640 height=480 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/Zuk1.jpg">

[Scoutillac]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Snoopy:
[QB]Offset wheels? Noway...I got the wheels I have for free (came with the 36s i bought for $150) and the 383.5s recommend 15x12's - Which are over $100 a peice. So my options are (1) get new rims [400 + special order offset triples-quadruples cost of tires] or (2) Get new axles [free + parts] and get the width that I want as well.

There is also a problem that I've found with offset wheels. Although they space the wheels out, the pivot point where the wheels turn is still at the same place so that when you turn you end up still hitting the frame/springs anyway.

You have your head up your ass!!! The rims can be had for 60 bucks each, and no the tires do not hit the springs. How do I know? I'm running 38's on a 2" back spacing . If you are gonna go to the trouble of swappin the axles why put a 44 in the front? Hope you have a few extra shafts because you are gonna need them.

[jdjanda]

Originally posted by Scout Dude:
<STRONG>I saw this Zuk and I figured that my Scout would look real good with a similar set-up. I am going to wait until the body is totally thrashed though.

<IMG width=640 height=480 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/Zuk.jpg">
<IMG width=640 height=480 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/Zuk1.jpg"></STRONG>

Exactly, that's exactly what I want to do with my extra tub. Hack the back off and turn it into a cab (won't be using the terra bulkhead). Mount a third seat in the middle and build a bed. <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">

Joe

[Scout Dude]

Originally posted by jdjanda:
<STRONG>Exactly, that's exactly what I want to do with my extra tub. Hack the back off and turn it into a cab (won't be using the terra bulkhead). Mount a third seat in the middle and build a bed. <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">

Joe</STRONG>

Yep...have bender...will travel <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by Scoutillac:
<STRONG>If you are gonna go to the trouble of swappin the axles why put a 44 in the front? Hope you have a few extra shafts because you are gonna need them.</STRONG>

Easy, Scoutillac.. let's not forget he's going to be turning those 38s with a 196! <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

[Scoutillac]

and with what gears? Sounds like that thing won't be able to pull a sick whore out of bed?